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i'm thinking of DIY the MTF change cuz honda wants to charge $90. but i read the DIY and you have to jack up all 4 points of the car.

i was thinking:

1) jack up rear left, place jackstand, lower jack
2) jack up rear right, place jackstand, lower jack
3) jack up whole front, place both front left and right jackstands, lower jack

and to drop it back down, just reverse the process?

oh yeah, i'd have to buy 4 jack-stands and a jack, plus the MTF fluid. how much do you think it'd be? thanks.

 
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jack and jackstands ran me about $28ish @ walmart and they're good quality.

 
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cool thanks.

can anyone help on the method in jacking it up/down?

 
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use a lift!

 
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just like you said.. its better if you have 2 jacks that way the weight is distributed evenly

 
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Locate front Jack point under bumper, lift whole front end, put jack stand on each side per owners manual. Jack up rear end from the suspension subframe (the box like structure in the center where the LCAs bolt to. Put 2 jack stands under the rear as specified in the manual.
Do work, reverse process. Always lift/lower the front first, or you stand the chance of not being able to get the jack out.

 
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Drive that Bad mother onto a set of ramps and then jack up the rear.

Better yet... get a funnel and stretch of plastic hose duct tape it together to form your MTF Bong and just crawl under the car and stick it in the hole...
Thank god I'm Skinny... you also need two people for that.

This is cool how everone is saying 4 jacks and 2 jacks and jacks jacks jacks jacks... i feel special

 
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90 buckS?!?! I really think oil changes and Tranny fluid changes should cost the same 20 bucks. I mean all they do is open the drain bolt, drain fluid, put drain bolt back, (filter for oil), pour new fluid. wam bam thank you mam.

 
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filter ?

 
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Need:
4 jackstands
1 hydraulic jack

Front:
Find the front jack point. You can feel it right behind where the bumper ends, under the car, and if you can get under to look there's an arrow pointing to it. Jack up the car high enough and you can place the jackstands under either front side jack point (roughly 10" behind the front wheelwells).

Rear:
Stick the jack under the subframe, right behind where a rear lower tie bar would be installed. Raise it up then you can stick jackstands under the rear side jack points (6" in front of the rear wheelwells).

The problem with using the side jack points to raise the car is that with a hydraulic jack and jackstands you won't have any room to switch between them once the car is up. This will necessitate jacking up the car from a non-reinforced area, bending metal...

 
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dammit Telly you're a kill buzz

 
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thanks dudes. i wanted to do the whole front/back as you guys described.

so raise front, then rear. then to get it down again, lower front, then rear?

 
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nah once yer set just get another person and just push the car over... hehhee ok dont do that.. yes.. drop the front then the rear

 
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How long (miles) untill u change the MT fuid??

 
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Got spare cash and have a garage?
Get this.

$900 - http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=46604

 
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internal filter that, i think, locates inside the oil pan. the filter usually comes w/ oil pan gasket and its more than 20 bucks for the kit.

90 bucks sounds reasonable w/ OEM products.

 
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IMO..........if you need to ask this........you shouldn't be using tools.

 
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I should really stick my head under my car instead of babbling on...
BUT isn't the Manual Transmission Fluid Pan (not the oil pan) a SEALED UNIT???

well the oil pan is sealed too ..

Maybe you're refering to an AUTOMATIC Trans Pan!?!?!? I'm not sure about civic's, but yes on a lot of those you have to actually Drop the pan and change a filter... in the Manual.. there is no filter.

 
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... no one asked for your demeaning opinion... everyone has to start working on cars somewhere.
The point is this guys is asking to make sure that he is doing this safely..
so if your not going to be supportive, or informative, then at least say something funny.

 
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Well I haven't had any reason to jack up my 04 yet, but if you need the whole car off the ground I would think that jacking up the left rear pretty high, then you could place both jack stands under the left side of the car, then jack up the front from the left side if necessary, raise the front jack stand. go to the right jack up the rear jack stand on the right rear, jack up the right fronr jack stand it, I think that's how I'd do it.

 
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i changed my atf awhile back and it's simple you really only need 2 jack stand or a pair of ramps. i drove up on ramps, pulled ebrake up, undo atf drain bolt, clean metal shavings off magnetic end of plug, put bolt back in, and put in new fluid. honestly this process is easier than changin oil and is shorter since there is no filter to replace.

 
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There is no way to get to the auto filter without completely dissasembling the transmission.

 
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wont the jack stands cost more then honda would to do the service?

take it to a local garage

 
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Dude that is blasphemy! Even if it did, The jacks would cost less than doing it twice. Regardless of the other infinite uses for a good set of jack stands and some ramps...

Every REAL man needs a set of Jack Stands and some Ramps. . . Owning a Car With out them it's like trying to look tough drinking through a straw.

 
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good point

/me retracts previous post

 
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I got ramps, THEY SUCK, lol if your car is lowerd be prepared to scrape.

 
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yes Store bought ramps to suck big time...
What you have to is this
Buy a 6ft long 8" x 8" exterior grade post (wood)
buy a 12 foot long 2" x 12" board ...

then you cut the Post into two pieces with a chain saw.
BUT NOT DIRECTLY IN HALF.

You start a foot off from one end and end up a foot from the other end diaganolly. (this gives you Two Ramps !)
Then you cut the board directly inhalf and screw it to the bottom on the two ramps you made... )
I'll take pictures next time I use the one's we have)
It's great though... first the car goes up the 2" board... the the ramp is very gradual and you won't scrape... plus wood holds a lot more wieght.

 
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Nice.

 
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does anyone have a pic(s) of the front and rear points where the jacks should be placed?

that would be really helpfull!

 
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jackstands from sears.