"Cold"air intake through headlight in progress w/ pics.
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"Cold"air intake through headlight in progress w/ pics.
Well I have had this idea for a while and finally decided to work on making it happen.
First off you will need to relocate the battery and it's basically an extension on the end of my V2.
For those of you that have a V2 you know these things get hot quick because they're sucking warm engine bay air. So here is my idea to get some cool air flowing and possibly create a ram effect. Haven't got everything worked out yet, but just wanted some opinions.
I need to get a 4" metal coupling like the 3" one instead of what I have now.
I wanna try to find a light assembly at the junkyard before I hack my good one up because they are expensive , in case I screw up.
First off you will need to relocate the battery and it's basically an extension on the end of my V2.
For those of you that have a V2 you know these things get hot quick because they're sucking warm engine bay air. So here is my idea to get some cool air flowing and possibly create a ram effect. Haven't got everything worked out yet, but just wanted some opinions.
I need to get a 4" metal coupling like the 3" one instead of what I have now.
I wanna try to find a light assembly at the junkyard before I hack my good one up because they are expensive , in case I screw up.
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Your idea is good, but a few things worry me. First, are you cutting a hole in your headlight, because it's gonna look real strange to have a big hole cut in the lens and a pipe coming out. Second, that battery will give off toxic gas and is not a smart idea to have it in your car.
I would rethink that idea and route the pipe close to the fender, kinda where the stock inlet was.
I would rethink that idea and route the pipe close to the fender, kinda where the stock inlet was.
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Rep Power: 0 I was gonna try to make it flush with the lens and create some kinda chrome/metallic flange to make it look clean. So from the front you would see a chrome circle, not some huge white pipe protruding out.
I figured it's a straight shot through the light and and a less restrictive path, plus a ram air effect may be created.
I thought our batteries were sealed?
I figured it's a straight shot through the light and and a less restrictive path, plus a ram air effect may be created.
I thought our batteries were sealed?
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Originally Posted by Gotti
why?
I like constructing things. Either it will work or I''ll be out some money for a new headlight. No big deal. Won't know unless I try.
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Rep Power: 812 Battery is not sealed. You should get an optima and get the summitracing battery trunk mount kit if you wanna do it right. Idea is good tho, especially ram air if you can make it look good. It already seems nice on the inside from the pics.
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Rep Power: 453 why dont you just buy an intake and do it the correct and smart way.
BTW good luck trying to find those headlights anywhere cheap. 04 headlights will still be even expensive if you go to a junkyard, and I doubt there are many wrecked 04's yet.
BTW good luck trying to find those headlights anywhere cheap. 04 headlights will still be even expensive if you go to a junkyard, and I doubt there are many wrecked 04's yet.
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Rep Power: 0 uh I do have an intake (V2), and the injen one sits down below the battery in the engine bay. This setup would draw air from outside, plus at higher speeds it would force air into the 3 chambers. 3" inlet chamber, 4"chamber around filter and the 3" then the 2" to the throttle body. my reasoning was this colder air being forced in and the chambers to create a air resivour like the stock air box and in conjuntion with the V2 concept itself. Will it work? I don't know.
I'll probally just pop the headlight out first and test it before I go cutting up a good headlight. If it works I could just do that for track days.
I'll probally just pop the headlight out first and test it before I go cutting up a good headlight. If it works I could just do that for track days.
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Originally Posted by Redline04
I'll probally just pop the headlight out first and test it before I go cutting up a good headlight. If it works I could just do that for track days.
Well since I don't have the right filter to fit inside the 4" pvc yet I'm gonna have to just extend the V2 filter to the open headlight housing. That should simulate the same situation, only the inlet air wont be as focused.
If I notice anything then I'll order a smaller filter and then test the proposed setup minus the headlight cutting.
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Rep Power: 0 This is done on a supra in Sept issue of import racer. The pic is of a lime green supra at the Inter auto salon. looks alright but I would never do it, whatever floats your boat, and ya ^^^^ what about the rain.
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Rep Power: 0 looks like you are connecting the piping to the high light socket, where u going to put the filter? unless you put back the stock airfilter and connect your v2 to it, otherwise your engine would probably die.
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I think it's a spiffy idea!
Of course I'd like to see you pull it off first
Plenty of things to work out though
1. the rain
2. What kinda filter you gonna use?
3. Are you just not gonna have a high beam ?
I think it's a spiffy idea!
Of course I'd like to see you pull it off first
Plenty of things to work out though
1. the rain
2. What kinda filter you gonna use?
3. Are you just not gonna have a high beam ?
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No, the "ram-air" effect will not work. You do not have it set up correctly. Secondly, the supras remove the headlight because they can draw colder air from the front of the moving vehicle. There is no "ram-air" effect in removing the headlight on a supra.
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Rep Power: 0 never seen that before but that is exactly the picture I had in my head. That is sweet. Maybe no ram air, but cooler air would help a lot. I heard every 10 degress cooler = 1hp???
Any detail on construction of that evo intake??
Any detail on construction of that evo intake??
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Rep Power: 310 air just goes straight to the filter. i'm sure they don't drive this in the rain or dust though. so you should come up with something to slide into place so when weather is bad you won't fvck up your engine.
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or you can take the easy way out and get a vented hood. The intake is along the back so with some piping it can happen. Also, during rain, u can get a cover or what not but the intake do not suck in water unless the whole filter is clogged.
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Rep Power: 0 Here's a quick sketch of my idea. With my I dea the air is directly concentrated into the intake system. With that evo it still could suck in warm air from behind.
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Rep Power: 0 I just need to find out where they got that duct thing for the headlight to make it look clean and professional.
Also need to see if I can find a filter around 3-3.75 inches that will fit inside the 4" and attach to the 3".
Definitly would have to cap the headlight hole for rain and uncap inside so air can still be sucked. That's why it would be good to have a spare headlight. Then I could just swap the headlight and extension when it rains.
Thanks for help/ suggestions.
Maybe with some help I can get all the bugs worked out???
Also need to see if I can find a filter around 3-3.75 inches that will fit inside the 4" and attach to the 3".
Definitly would have to cap the headlight hole for rain and uncap inside so air can still be sucked. That's why it would be good to have a spare headlight. Then I could just swap the headlight and extension when it rains.
Thanks for help/ suggestions.
Maybe with some help I can get all the bugs worked out???
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if it were me i would copy the cyber evo, seeing that it is the world's fastest evo with 700hp.
if it were me i would copy the cyber evo, seeing that it is the world's fastest evo with 700hp.
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Rep Power: 0 I'm sure cool air gets there on the evo. It just may not be 100% effective.
If I can get my battery relocated sat i'm actually gonna try to simulate the evo setup at the track and see if there is a difference. I'm just gonna pop the headlight and extend the V2 filter to the opening. This should pretty much simulate the EVO set up.
My only problem is I don't have a battery box yet. The track I go to never inspected my car before, so I think I'll mount it in the trunk with a custom bracket and hopefully if they do see it they will be cool.
If not then my track day will be screwed and no testing.
If I can get my battery relocated sat i'm actually gonna try to simulate the evo setup at the track and see if there is a difference. I'm just gonna pop the headlight and extend the V2 filter to the opening. This should pretty much simulate the EVO set up.
My only problem is I don't have a battery box yet. The track I go to never inspected my car before, so I think I'll mount it in the trunk with a custom bracket and hopefully if they do see it they will be cool.
If not then my track day will be screwed and no testing.
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Originally Posted by 4drcivic2k1
No, the "ram-air" effect will not work. You do not have it set up correctly. Secondly, the supras remove the headlight because they can draw colder air from the front of the moving vehicle. There is no "ram-air" effect in removing the headlight on a supra.
My reasoning for ram air was this.
Number one the acceleration of the car into the surrounding air would force the air into the tube and if air acts anything like water, when channelized it would acclerate flow.
But I guess I'm wrong on that theory??
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A correct ram air system slows down the air as in enters the ducting, which builds pressure. Its a venturi effect, as you speed up the air, you lose pressure. (This is how a carburetor works.) Thats the whole point of a "ram-air." If you look at the intake on the top of and indy car for example, they have a small inlet opening to a very large plenum above the butterflies.
A correct ram air system slows down the air as in enters the ducting, which builds pressure. Its a venturi effect, as you speed up the air, you lose pressure. (This is how a carburetor works.) Thats the whole point of a "ram-air." If you look at the intake on the top of and indy car for example, they have a small inlet opening to a very large plenum above the butterflies.
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Rep Power: 512 i wanna see this idiot do this just so we can make fun of him when he makes a post about how he 'fd up his headlights or how they are fogging terribly
That's some hardcore ish...can't wait to see the pics and the results...
I dont think we can compare our 7thgens to Supras and Evos, dont think any gains would be worth the effort of cutting up your headlights and going full-racer style...
I dont think we can compare our 7thgens to Supras and Evos, dont think any gains would be worth the effort of cutting up your headlights and going full-racer style...
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Originally Posted by abmerop18
i wanna see this idiot do this just so we can make fun of him when he makes a post about how he 'fd up his headlights or how they are fogging terribly
you never know, he might be able to pull it off. but it will be HELLA hard to seal the headlight off so yeah you're probably right...
