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Old Apr 24, 2004
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Question Automatic Transmisson, car throw in reverse while moving forward

Hi, the other day, I was stupid! I almost to the stop light... about 20 KM in speed.. I try to put the car on "N" from D to try to slow myself down... and I push too far.. it went into Reverse... I quckly throw it back to Drive.. I have it on Reverse about 2 seconds then back to Drive... The transmission didn't made any noise, and I didn't feel any impact or anythings from the transmission, and I hope the transmission didn't have enough time to engage to Reverse before I throw it back to "D"....

My car didn't seem to have any damage... Just wondering, does Automatic Transmission have some kind of safty thing that pervent you do something like that??? Does that hurt the transmission?


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hm, im waiting for people's responses..

however, i want to suggest you to change your shifting behavior...

try NOT to press the button on the shifter while shifting from N to D and below...

why?

because you CAN shift between N and D without that button...

and..

you CAN NOT shift from N to R if you do not push the button..

do u get what im talking about?

by NOT pushing the button while driving on the road (N -> D -> N), you are safe from accident shift to R while moving forward....

hope this helps...
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lol...i knew that!!! but i didn't know that u could go into reverse even if you do press the button...that's danger!
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Yup, that button is no-touchie if you're going forward unless you want 1st gear.

With most modern cars, the tranny is electronicly controlled at some point or another, and won't let the user destroy it unless they put it into park while moving.

If it didn't jerk and buck wildly, I'd say you're free-and-clear.
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I don't even think you should be shifting like that in the first place. An auto is not made to shift back and forth. Let an auto do its work.

Shifting from D to neutral makes your car possibly go faster because there is no resistance in the engine now. If you ever go down hill and leave it on neutral, you will go faster then if you left the car in D. I think letting your foot off the gas will nearly be the same as shifting into neutral.
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why do you shift into neutral when coming to a stoplight in the first place?
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ive done it before, ive downgeared to slow down too....nothing wrong with shifting an auto....but you dont need the button
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by downgearing do you mean D4->D3 or D4->N, the first one is ok i do that too, but why would do go into neutral?
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Yea.. it is a habit, that I alway shift to N just before it is complete stop... I find it if I put N just a few second before I do a complete stop I won't jerk the car that much..

No, I usually don't push the button.. I just don't know what I was doing the last time...

Luckly, yea, I don't feel the "jerk" when I accendently shift to "R" that time... which I usually get if I shift... So hopfully I don't screw up anythings!

BTW, my EL is now 30,000 KM.. how long does the STOCK Brake last? I think I need a new brake pad.
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ok, shifting from drive to neutral does not slow you down. the only way you can achieve engine braking in a 7thgen a/t is by shifting from D or D3 to 2 but don't do it. the tranny will suffer later in its life. oh and if you shift into reverse while driving forward and the gears actually switch, the car will turn off. leave the damn thing in drive, it wont be any faster or slower if you screw around with it. if u wana play, get a stick, thats the only thing i regret about my 2k3, its an auto.
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oh for the brakes, i had to change my front pads at 12,000 miles because of "aggresive" driving. usually they should last to 20,000 miles. the rear drums go on for a loooong time. 30-40,000 should be time for new rears.
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What is all this talk about shifting an automatic tranny?

Why the fvck did you pay that extra 1000$ for??????????

I guess some things I will never figure out.
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DUDE..

when i said about shifting from D to N, does not necessarly means that I suggest you do shift freely from N -> D -> D3 -> D2...and whatever...and go back up to D3 -> D4...

Dude...you can do that, but do not to that to your a/t tranny....it's bad...

yes, u can downshift from D4 -> D3 and so on when....maybe ur in a hill or something...
but don't play around like ur in a game...

i usually shift to N on stoplights...HOWEVER, when i took my driver license road test....the examiner told me that I WAS NOT SUPPOSED to shift back to N on stop lights....

anyway, my father and my bro told me that if i keep the transmission on D, it's not entirely good for your engine and tranny....it might actually consume more fuel....

FYI, i drive manual tranny.......but i drove a/t with my father's '91 accord...
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Originally posted by HustleLikeM0FO
What is all this talk about shifting an automatic tranny?

Why the fvck did you pay that extra 1000$ for??????????

I guess some things I will never figure out.
u pay $1000 for a/t tranny when u realize that it's the correct time to relax....and also when you're old enough to "feel" that "im old (granny) enough to drive a/t." LOL LOL LOL
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On a stock honda or any vehicle for that matter i wouldnt recommend shifiting gears. if you do like shifting that much you should look into a shift kit and building up your tranny then it will be totally alright to shift all you want
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actually the car is made to shift between D4 & D3, its if your going uphill it gives you better acceleration, and well if your going on straight ground it also gives you better acceleration which can be used to oh, lets say see if you can go faster then another car?
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I tend to agree wth Gribbs on this one, I'd say you can shift failry safely between D4 and D3... Passing gear!
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I sometimes shift from D to D3 in hard braking and put in neutral when expecting to stop at a long stoplight. But hearing you guys' comments, I might not do it anymore.
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Yet another reason to drive a stick...
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Originally posted by dalaw
I sometimes shift from D to D3 in hard braking and put in neutral when expecting to stop at a long stoplight. But hearing you guys' comments, I might not do it anymore.
hm, letsee...

you can actually shift to D3 while moving forward...

yes, there's no problem if you do it but make sure that you are not accelerating my shifting to D3 from D4......and it might be better to do it while slowing down...

anyway, it's still better to brake from enough distance with D4 on ur tranny.....

you can shift between Ds while manuvering on the hill or something like that.....in that case, ur cruising slowly.....and i think it's ok...
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Is it bad to shift from drive to neutral...i guess to maybe stop faster? Becuz when im at stop lights i have a tendancy to shift into neutral, Ive seen it all over asia when i went on vacations. Taxi drivers always shifted into neutral during stops. is there any proven tests that show it helps in any way? maybe better gas mileage?
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yeah

it's just a behavior for some of us from asia...

that is, shift to neutral when stopping (red light)

i don't think it's good idea to shift from D to neutral while car's moving forward...
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Well as for shifting to neutral at stop lights, if you drive almost 24/7 (taxi drivers) then they might be saving about 1/2 gallon a fuel a day depending on the car.

as for why people buy an auto; I have one cause my car was bought used a few months back and my parents told me i could get the civic or a 2003 Corolla Type S (manual w/ no options.) I test drove the corolla and its up as high as a minivan so i said save $4000 and get me the civic. So i had almost no choice. Believe it or not i think the civic isnt (any) slower than the corolla s but i didnt drive it enough to know.

A last point I want to make, if you can shift from one gear to another withough pushing in the button its most likely OK. Going from D->N does nothing to your tranny. Going from N->D can cause peoblems. If you are going slow its giong to hurt the tranny a bit. If you are stopped obviously no problem. If you are going faster, like 50, when you put it back in the tranny wont catch for a little and when it does i rev up to where i think it should be and if the RPM's are close to what they would be in gear, no damage. D4->D3 is ok too, but after you shift you go from almost no stress on the engine + tranny to alot of stress; especially down hill.

So to summarize, the more your car jerks from a shift, the more pain the tranny is getting.

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umm... correct me if im wrong, but if you go from N->D while your pressing the pedal, its called a neutral drop, partially cause your tranny can drop right outa the car.... not literally i think but still not a good thing.
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As for the downshifting (for an AT), it is safe BUT you have to do watch your RPM's. And actually if you were in 'D' and dropped the stick to 'D2' while going say 70mph, the car will wait for the RPM's to drop below redline of second gear before the transmission shifts to second gear. The AT transmission has a few idiotguards on it but it definently isn't bullet proof.

As for putting it in neutral to stop faster, I can see how you can stop faster but not much at all. The task of throwing the car into neutral everytime you hit a red light seems rather tedious to me. That is the whole purpose of an AT, to not have to play with the gears. And you still have the privilege to play with them if you really HAVE to.

I still would rather have a stick than my AT but that is the luck of the draw.
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A neutral drop is basically that, droping the gears from neutral to drive with the throttle open causing an AT to attempt a burnout. And that does damage your AT. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that I am right.
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hm...

im also not sure about that..

but lemme tell you this...i used to drop from D4 to N while decelerating for red light....
so.....about 20 metres from redlight, i shift from D4 to N and just brake till stoplight..

i did that all the time with my dad's old 91 accord...

i dunno though whether it's ok or not with newer gen of civic...

ah, actually....i tried to do that with my old Chrysler New Yorker Sedan AT...however, the car "jogged" a lil' bit when i tried to shift from D to N while the car was moving...

of coarse, that's not good...so i experimented few times and yet, it still happened.....then i stop doing it...
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i have an auto, putting the car in nuetral probably wont save you gas at teh stop light. if you look at your revs, the car revs lower in gear than in nuetral. i think my civic revs about 600 rpm in D4 at a stop light, but ir revs about 800-900 in nuetral.
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um.... if your car's rpm is at 600 at a stoplight, you might want to get that checked out... it really shouldnt be below 800 i think.



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