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What are you talking about? Having a manual has nothing to do with being able to redline it, you can redline an automatic too.

There is no such thing as a 6-speed EX, the available transmissions are a 4-speed auto or a 5-speed manual.

There is no such thing as a K20B. The current K20 series of engines is the K20A (JDM Integra Type R), K20A2 (RSX Type S), and the K20A3 (RSX, Civic Si/SiR).

Again, there is no such thing as a K20C.

 
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ya u guys must be pussies or something cuz i cruise at 100 everyday on the freeway, i topped out around 115 in my auto lx coupe. It wasn't even redlined, it was just the speed limiter cutting off the gas.

 
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OK, I call them a, b, c...you call em 1, 2, 3...same thing. And when i said 6-speed i ment the manuel...thought the manuel vic was 6. Oh well, been awhile. As for the redline, auto shifts in a "safe" area...with manuel you can push the gear to a higher point before shifting, thats what i meant, although my wording wasn't the best.

BTW...we don't get the EL, is it like another car in the Honda/ Acura lineup rebadged? Like RSX-Integra, TSX-Japanese Accord etc.

 
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exactly!

 
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Meh, no worries, it's just the official Honda naming of them is what I said above.

As for the EL, think of it as a Civic EX sedan, with 4-wheel disc brakes, heated leather seats, side airbags, and all of the other features, with a slightly different exterior. Just check out my gallery. The pics were taken back in January when I first got it, I'll have to take new pics of it now that the weather is nicer out and it has the alloys on.

 
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damn, dude..

whether it's an AT or MT, it's a gift...u should be happy for it in the first place.....

anyway, why don't you ask the dealer to change it into an MT when u got the car? ahahah....

 
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Originally posted by jericho73
No 5 sp has more advantage then just at the line...like being able to redline it and squeeze more out of each gear. I know when i redline it in SS mode i get more then in auto mode. ”


What are you talking about? Having a manual has nothing to do with being able to redline it, you can redline an automatic too.



Exactly all you have to do in an auto to redline each gear is do a wide open throttle.and as each gear hits redline it swictes gear super quick...prolly faster than you can shift a stick.

 
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Yep, exactly. The only thing that makes the 5-speed faster than the 4-speed auto is that the gear ratios are, of course, shorter on the manual. If you had a 5-speed automatic, the shifts would be much quicker than what a human could reproduce with an equivalent 5-speed manual (not to mention the auto would be more consistent, too).

 
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Man, that EL is really nice. Really like the front end. I assume there's no 4-door EX <Si> in Canada? The front end is really nice...but you didn't get alloys with a premium? I know Canada's bottom line RSX ,which the US doesn't have, also gets steelies...whasupwitdat? Acuras should have alloys stock, you're paying enough for the name!

What kind of engine does the EL have?

 
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but still.....ehm, not really wanna offend people with AT...

red lining AT feels ghey.....

"racing" the AT cars? i think that's ghey too...

sorry for those that feels offended..

 
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There is a 4-door Si NOW, but prior to 2004 there never was one. I did indeed get alloys with it, 15 spoke 15" alloys to be exact, but there was no way I was going to put them through a salt-filled Atlantic Canadian winter. So I called around to a few Honda dealerships and found a good deal on a set of four 14" steelies that came off of a brand new Civic that the owner bought alloys for. So I put those on for the winter with a set of Blizzaks, and I just had the alloys and Potenzas put on Saturday imp:
As for the engine, it has the same D17A2 that the Si (EX) has.

 
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I'm lazy to quote, but for those that feel autos are faster than 5 speed in shift time, you guys must not know/have seen some good 5 speed drivers.

 
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Yes, exactly, "some good 5 speed drivers." Not everyone can shift like professionals, I for one can't. For the most part, an automatic transmission will shift quicker than the average person can shift a manual, it's just that, usually, most cars come with one gear less than their manual counterpart. Think of it this way, which is quicker, a computer doing a math problem, or a human? Computers are always going to be quicker for the most part.

 
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Offended,not really. But I do enjoy red lining my car.I fells awesome watching the tach go all the way up and the engine gettin real loud.I do wish I had the ability to put my hand on a stick,but oh well thats all I have.And racing with an auto,well i'd almost prefer it.In fact alot of Pro drag racers all use auto's no because they have auto tranny's that shift quicker than sticks and can take 1/10's of a sec off and that time is crucial.But every one has their own preference.

 
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^^ Another major reason pro's use it is consitancy.

An auto is very consitant, while humans have human errors... It's like one less thing to factor in.

 
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OK, I agree, most ppl do shift slower in a 5 speed compared to a auto, and autos are generally smoother. But it doesnt takea pro driver to shift fast. Comparing a computer/calculator with a human mind is not accurate. Yes, I will say for calculus problems and alegbra, higher level maths, the calc will be faster, but thats b/c the human mind has to think and take steps and cant process the info as fast, but driving stick doesnt take any thinking at all... just do it.
As for pro drivers preferring autos, a Civics auto compared to a drag cars auto is different, same goes for stick cars, by that level, how you prep the car is more important. If youre running 9 second 1/4 miles, I may prefer an auto or sequential manual as well b/c the speed is so high that there can be mistakes. As for road course, autoX, manual is always more desirable, I would hate to have my car upshift in mid corner. But.... unless someone is a pro driver here, I feel most ppl that can drive stick on here will opt to have a stick.

 
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Excuse me? k20b? k20c? 6-sp EX????

K20A = JDM Integra Type R Engine
K20A2 = RSX Type S Engine
K20A3 = RSX Base/Civic SI Engine
6-sp EX = WTF?

 
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just turbo it and be done with this stupid conversation. Boost is the only thing can save our cars other than swap!