DH RACING's PNP DYNO RESULTS WILL BE HERE
Registered!!
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
Rep Power: 0 
Originally posted by gearbox
...If you start with an attitude...It's already known that stock civics have 100-110whp stock.
...If you start with an attitude...It's already known that stock civics have 100-110whp stock.
Yes, it's generally accepted that they have somewhere around 100hp to 110hp stock. So if you dyno 112hp did you gain 2hp or 12hp? If you dyno 108hp did you gain 8hp or lose 2hp? only with a back to back can you tell what the part added. Don't you agree?
Originally posted by gearbox
... If anyone here is going to a dyno shop, it will be to get their car tuned. It's expensive just to do that. But I will be posting my dyno results after installing the head and pulley, JUST to prove you wrong about the gains.
... If anyone here is going to a dyno shop, it will be to get their car tuned. It's expensive just to do that. But I will be posting my dyno results after installing the head and pulley, JUST to prove you wrong about the gains.
After all, the title of this thread is "DH RACING's PNP DYNO RESULTS WILL BE HERE" so I don't think i'm in the wrong place.
Whats with all your attitude?
lease: Last edited by LSRCivic; Mar 18, 2004 at 03:25 PM.
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 812 
Haha, I agree. Patience for the numbers, since alot of us are still waiting on the head. I believe some have theirs and are in the process of installing. There are some extra parts to be gotten, so we just want to make sure the install goes well the first time.
I looking forward to finally getting my DH parts put on and see what they can do.
I looking forward to finally getting my DH parts put on and see what they can do.
Registered!!
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
From: Gainesville, Ga.
Rep Power: 0 To the ? that was addressed to me about the VAFC 2...No, you don't need to tune the VAFC 2 to notice gaines from the P&P...I noticed a huge gain in the mid range when I got my car back...The problem is, you need to tune because there are dead spots in the powerband. Mainly in the higher rpm range. It's just a good idea to tune because you will have alot more/faster air coming through
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 812 Well, I don't think anyone has this with a turbo that I know of. It basically lets you tune the air/fuel mixture, so I guess it can be adjusted depending on the amount of boost. The settings are confusing, and it's best if a shop did it.
Registered!!
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 788
Likes: 0
From: Oakland, CA
Rep Power: 0 It's sad how many ppl act like spoiled children on this board.
Don't have an attitude as if posting Dyno numbers is an obligation of people who buy the PnP head, since you're not willing to be adventurous enough to buy it. If you want the dyno so much, donate a couple of bucks. If you don't donate, then obviously you don't care enough to even sacrifice a miniscule amount of money to see the potential.
Apalling how people kick and scream for dynos, but do nothing about it themselves to help make it happen. Donate five or ten bucks. You get a couple of people to do that on a relatively big forum like this then raising the money needed will be no problem. But instead, you want everybody else to do the work and spend the hard earned money for you, to be your personal guinea pig for products.
If you're not willing to contribute, you're in no position to complain.
-Aki
Don't have an attitude as if posting Dyno numbers is an obligation of people who buy the PnP head, since you're not willing to be adventurous enough to buy it. If you want the dyno so much, donate a couple of bucks. If you don't donate, then obviously you don't care enough to even sacrifice a miniscule amount of money to see the potential.
Apalling how people kick and scream for dynos, but do nothing about it themselves to help make it happen. Donate five or ten bucks. You get a couple of people to do that on a relatively big forum like this then raising the money needed will be no problem. But instead, you want everybody else to do the work and spend the hard earned money for you, to be your personal guinea pig for products.
If you're not willing to contribute, you're in no position to complain.
-Aki
! Originally posted by aki
It's sad how many ppl act like spoiled children on this board.
Don't have an attitude as if posting Dyno numbers is an obligation of people who buy the PnP head, since you're not willing to be adventurous enough to buy it. If you want the dyno so much, donate a couple of bucks. If you don't donate, then obviously you don't care enough to even sacrifice a miniscule amount of money to see the potential.
Apalling how people kick and scream for dynos, but do nothing about it themselves to help make it happen. Donate five or ten bucks. You get a couple of people to do that on a relatively big forum like this then raising the money needed will be no problem. But instead, you want everybody else to do the work and spend the hard earned money for you, to be your personal guinea pig for products.
If you're not willing to contribute, you're in no position to complain.
-Aki
It's sad how many ppl act like spoiled children on this board.
Don't have an attitude as if posting Dyno numbers is an obligation of people who buy the PnP head, since you're not willing to be adventurous enough to buy it. If you want the dyno so much, donate a couple of bucks. If you don't donate, then obviously you don't care enough to even sacrifice a miniscule amount of money to see the potential.
Apalling how people kick and scream for dynos, but do nothing about it themselves to help make it happen. Donate five or ten bucks. You get a couple of people to do that on a relatively big forum like this then raising the money needed will be no problem. But instead, you want everybody else to do the work and spend the hard earned money for you, to be your personal guinea pig for products.
If you're not willing to contribute, you're in no position to complain.
-Aki
Registered!!
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 407
Likes: 0
From: Lake George, New York, US
Rep Power: 0 On the FI note and the head-
My car is done, sitting at the guy who did the works house and I am suppossed to pick it up this afternoon.
The closest dyno for me is over 3 hours away but you had better bet that if I am close to it I will dyno it!
My car is done, sitting at the guy who did the works house and I am suppossed to pick it up this afternoon.
The closest dyno for me is over 3 hours away but you had better bet that if I am close to it I will dyno it!
Skyline R33
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Canadian2k1SI
OK, on the tuning subject, is the Apexi VAFC 2, capable of being tuned for different boost levels?
OK, on the tuning subject, is the Apexi VAFC 2, capable of being tuned for different boost levels?
I think the VAFC2 is good if you are running rich and want to decrease output.. I might be wrong.. I am just posting what I was told.. I have not had time to tune my VAFC2.. But just FYI I set VTEC to hit at 4,000 rpm and it feels good.. I get a big hit from turbo at the same time VTEC kicks in..
If anyone has VAFC2 and SF kit please post results..
MAN FIRST THE MISSING PPART AND NOW I BREAK MY LEG!
Saturday i got into an accident and i still have not driven my car with the pnp head!!! Ill be in the bed for about 3 weeks before i can climb stairs. I will keep you pplk posted on my car I finally have everything I need excep my legy .lol
Saturday i got into an accident and i still have not driven my car with the pnp head!!! Ill be in the bed for about 3 weeks before i can climb stairs. I will keep you pplk posted on my car I finally have everything I need excep my legy .lol
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 812 Feel better. But what about the other two members on this thread? They said their head was coming last week and then nothing.
Anyway, I went on a shopping spree at the dealer buying tons of oil, coolant, oil filter, head gasket, and new head bolts. Even the honda tech there told me NEVER swap a head without getting those 10 new bolts. I so got em just to be safe.
I'm pretty broke as well. I don't think I have enough to have this stuff installed. I guess I'll wait til you get better for you to do it. Thanks again.
Anyway, I went on a shopping spree at the dealer buying tons of oil, coolant, oil filter, head gasket, and new head bolts. Even the honda tech there told me NEVER swap a head without getting those 10 new bolts. I so got em just to be safe.
I'm pretty broke as well. I don't think I have enough to have this stuff installed. I guess I'll wait til you get better for you to do it. Thanks again.
Registered!!
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,024
Likes: 1
From: Zulu Alpha Tango Foxtrot
Rep Power: 313 Originally posted by guns
I was told once the map sensor is under boost conditions the fuel is maxed out.. you can not adjust it to put out more fuel w/ VAFC2 because it is already at the max output..
I think the VAFC2 is good if you are running rich and want to decrease output.. I might be wrong.. I am just posting what I was told.. I have not had time to tune my VAFC2.. But just FYI I set VTEC to hit at 4,000 rpm and it feels good.. I get a big hit from turbo at the same time VTEC kicks in..
If anyone has VAFC2 and SF kit please post results..
I was told once the map sensor is under boost conditions the fuel is maxed out.. you can not adjust it to put out more fuel w/ VAFC2 because it is already at the max output..
I think the VAFC2 is good if you are running rich and want to decrease output.. I might be wrong.. I am just posting what I was told.. I have not had time to tune my VAFC2.. But just FYI I set VTEC to hit at 4,000 rpm and it feels good.. I get a big hit from turbo at the same time VTEC kicks in..
If anyone has VAFC2 and SF kit please post results..
Skyline R33
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by opto_isolator
VAFC2 is a cheap version of the e-manage. If it interfaces with just the map sensor that you cannot increase fuel beyond the stock max (which is when the sensor is reading at or near 0 psi). The E-manage interfaces with the injector signals AND the MAP sensor, so you can manually add duty cycle to the injector signals, so no - the VAFC will not be the best solution for boost unless you are running rich.....
VAFC2 is a cheap version of the e-manage. If it interfaces with just the map sensor that you cannot increase fuel beyond the stock max (which is when the sensor is reading at or near 0 psi). The E-manage interfaces with the injector signals AND the MAP sensor, so you can manually add duty cycle to the injector signals, so no - the VAFC will not be the best solution for boost unless you are running rich.....
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,242
Likes: 0
From: so cal djmota=oscar
Rep Power: 324 Originally posted by gearbox
Lots of people saying they got everything installed last week, but suddenly they've disappeared. Any updates yet?
Lots of people saying they got everything installed last week, but suddenly they've disappeared. Any updates yet?
HEY DJMOTA.....
How much torque on the bolts that hold tha cam??? and how do you know the timing is correct im a little confused cuz The head was taken out and i didnt mark the balt and camgear like i was suppose to
How much torque on the bolts that hold tha cam??? and how do you know the timing is correct im a little confused cuz The head was taken out and i didnt mark the balt and camgear like i was suppose to
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,242
Likes: 0
From: so cal djmota=oscar
Rep Power: 324 set the engine to tdc by lining up the white mark on the crank pulley and the little pointer on the oil pump just above the pulley. when you pu the new head on and its time to put on the cam gear and belt line up little marks on the side of the cam gear with the the sides of the head. doble check after the belt has been installed. i'll get those tq numbers when i'm on break.
