LX to EX exhaust conversion, need help!
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LX to EX exhaust conversion, need help!
ok so i did my lx to ex exhaust conversion, but instead ofgetting the ex sway bar i just took mine off, and frankly theres no difference in handling as far as i can tell. but is this bad for teh car? oh also, i need to get the EX o2 sensors since the LX ones cant reach all the way to the EX catalytic converter, will this still work ok with my LX ECU? and finally, do i need the o2 sensors? i heard that on newer cars tehy actually regulate the air:fuel ratio?
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oh and if i need any of these parts, where can i get them for cheap?
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oh and if i need any of these parts, where can i get them for cheap?
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Rep Power: 0 ok well i already have my exhaust on there so im not doing that, plz dont start flaming, just stick to original topic. oh and 2003hondacivic, all you have to do is buy the EX header/catback exhaust/downpipe, and then take off the LX front sway bar, and stick everything on.
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Rep Power: 0 Does it add more horse or something? If so cool but I would think you would be better off doing a custom set up I would also guess it would be cheaper than stock honda parts...I am very confused why you would take off stock honda parts and put more stock parts on...it can't be that much of a difference or is it?
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Rep Power: 0 u dont necessarily hafta convert to stock EX parts! the main advantage of an EX exhaust swap is being able to use the many different catback systems available for EX only. so just get a highflow EX header/downpipe (kamikaze or HP racing) and then bolt up a nice exhaust. it wont give you much more power than just the LX kamikaze headers, but it is nice if you want a specific exhaust that's EX only (like the RS*R that i want...)
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Rep Power: 0 Also I dont see why you want to mod a LX...non-vtec not ever going to be fast or anything civic you better jump onto a K20 swap or even A d17a VTEC swap. Not flamin you just trying to let you see the light that you are wasting your money.
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Rep Power: 0 Merciless dude, do u have any faukin idea of what your talking about?!?!?!? Stop posting meaningless **** like your drunk...no one cares.
Where did you get that modding an LX is pointless. In most cases a SOHC VTEC doesn't make but a hair of a difference. so 12 hp stock sure does sound like a good reason to swap my engine right?!?!?!?!?
Where did you get that modding an LX is pointless. In most cases a SOHC VTEC doesn't make but a hair of a difference. so 12 hp stock sure does sound like a good reason to swap my engine right?!?!?!?!?
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Rep Power: 0 Well let me make this more clear for you. SOHC motor for a Honda=****. That better?
It takes too much money to make any power that is worth talking about, It can be done but why? If he wants to make power he needs a K20 in his car or a K24. LX motor=**** even the D17A isnt that great as I said before a SOHC Honda motor isn't worth modding.
This is the main reason I am going from a D16Y5 to a B18B Turbo set up why you ask... well lets see more liters which means more TQ also they make more parts for a B18B than they do a D16 hmmm just saying in the long run he will save money by getting something that tuners make parts for other than the ANEMIC SOHC motors.
It takes too much money to make any power that is worth talking about, It can be done but why? If he wants to make power he needs a K20 in his car or a K24. LX motor=**** even the D17A isnt that great as I said before a SOHC Honda motor isn't worth modding.
This is the main reason I am going from a D16Y5 to a B18B Turbo set up why you ask... well lets see more liters which means more TQ also they make more parts for a B18B than they do a D16 hmmm just saying in the long run he will save money by getting something that tuners make parts for other than the ANEMIC SOHC motors.
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Rep Power: 0 Well lets see I am not making myself look like an *** you guys are maikng yourselves look like ricers trying to mod these worthless motors. You are the people that give people that mod imports a bad name trying to make this LX and EX motors fast...
ok I am from www.azsr.com/forum
these guys dont mess around with speed. If you aren't running at least a 11 you aren't fast but hey if you want to waste your money and run 13s with 5gs put into your motor go right ahead. All I know is most people would rather run fast times for less money. Which means you need Displacement for TQ and HP so upgrading to a K20 would be the best way to make power you can only go so far with these D17s....
ok I am from www.azsr.com/forum
these guys dont mess around with speed. If you aren't running at least a 11 you aren't fast but hey if you want to waste your money and run 13s with 5gs put into your motor go right ahead. All I know is most people would rather run fast times for less money. Which means you need Displacement for TQ and HP so upgrading to a K20 would be the best way to make power you can only go so far with these D17s....
OK so your saying spend over 10g's and do a k20 swap? Why would you do that when you can get a Sf turbo and tune the engine the way you want it. Its cheaper than the k20 swap and can even keep up with a rsx. Also if you boost with the ex you have to worry about boost spikes, when a lx dx you dont have to worry about it, since the vehicle has no vtec.
ricergribbs I would just add more wire to your sensors that you have now to make them longer, or look into a sim. Reason why I say that is because your going to be spending over 150 per sensor from honda. Just get some heat srink, wire, and a soldering iron, and a pair of wire cutters and have at it.
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ricergribbs I would just add more wire to your sensors that you have now to make them longer, or look into a sim. Reason why I say that is because your going to be spending over 150 per sensor from honda. Just get some heat srink, wire, and a soldering iron, and a pair of wire cutters and have at it.
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OK so your saying spend over 10g's and do a k20 swap? Why would you do that when you can get a Sf turbo and tune the engine the way you want it. Its cheaper than the k20 swap and can even keep up with a rsx. Also if you boost with the ex you have to worry about boost spikes, when a lx dx you dont have to worry about it, since the vehicle has no vtec.
ricergribbs I would just add more wire to your sensors that you have now to make them longer, or look into a sim. Reason why I say that is because your going to be spending over 150 per sensor from honda. Just get some heat srink, wire, and a soldering iron, and a pair of wire cutters and have at it.
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OK so your saying spend over 10g's and do a k20 swap? Why would you do that when you can get a Sf turbo and tune the engine the way you want it. Its cheaper than the k20 swap and can even keep up with a rsx. Also if you boost with the ex you have to worry about boost spikes, when a lx dx you dont have to worry about it, since the vehicle has no vtec.
ricergribbs I would just add more wire to your sensors that you have now to make them longer, or look into a sim. Reason why I say that is because your going to be spending over 150 per sensor from honda. Just get some heat srink, wire, and a soldering iron, and a pair of wire cutters and have at it.
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Or instead of wasting your time listening to newbies - you can go here:
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...5=EXHAUST+PIPE
And they them for about $36 a piece. Of course those are for the 2001 EX, but its pretty much the same thing. Of course I'd probably just try the soldering thing first myself (since I am a cheapskate and all). Another thing you might have to take into account is that the locations for the wiring harness plugs in the LX are different than the EX, which means that even if you DO get the EX O2 sensors, the wires may still not be long enough.....Just some food for thought...
Lets get one thing straight, Im not a noob. If you look at my member date I have been around since the opening 2k1civic. I have done many different projects on 2k1 civic and integras, from guage cluster swaps to clutchs to trannys. Yes it would be nice to do a k20 swap but most of us on these boards do much more talking than swapping because of the price involved. Im only here to provide my knowledge about the car and from what I have seen on 2k1 over the years.
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Rep Power: 0 So eve if one of us were to have a set up like Catalyst, we will still have a "**** sohc"? He's running anywhere from 350-400 at the wheels. What's **** about that? Do your research before coming on here and saying our cars can't be fast.
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Rep Power: 0 Yeah he is running 300hp but how much more is he goning to be able to squeeze out of that motor before it hits its limits and isn't very daily driveable. You can make anything fast BUT you can save money and get more power out of different motors. Yeah there are those mean SOHC motors out there but very few...why? Becuase they arent worth modding compared to a K20 or K24 or and DOHC motor that Honda makes. There is a reason these other motors are popular...
Tell me how much money has gone into this 300hp car. Maybe he is one of those few people that can make this power for cheap.
Also I dont see many Civics with LX motors running anywhere near a "fast" number. 13s are not fast.
Tell me how much money has gone into this 300hp car. Maybe he is one of those few people that can make this power for cheap.
Also I dont see many Civics with LX motors running anywhere near a "fast" number. 13s are not fast.
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Rep Power: 311 Originally posted by Jeff
Lets get one thing straight, Im not a noob. If you look at my member date I have been around since the opening 2k1civic. I have done many different projects on 2k1 civic and integras, from guage cluster swaps to clutchs to trannys. Yes it would be nice to do a k20 swap but most of us on these boards do much more talking than swapping because of the price involved. Im only here to provide my knowledge about the car and from what I have seen on 2k1 over the years.
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Lets get one thing straight, Im not a noob. If you look at my member date I have been around since the opening 2k1civic. I have done many different projects on 2k1 civic and integras, from guage cluster swaps to clutchs to trannys. Yes it would be nice to do a k20 swap but most of us on these boards do much more talking than swapping because of the price involved. Im only here to provide my knowledge about the car and from what I have seen on 2k1 over the years.
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Rep Power: 0 I have done the conversio you are referring to. ebay header, megan cat, megan catback exhaust. I am currently driving around with no front sway bar. the handling is fine, i have new sways which i will install later. i extended my wires and the car seems to be running fine, although i have the CEL on. Do some research here, there are lots of threads about the issues pertaining to this swap.
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Rep Power: 0 yeah, i rednecked up the o2 sensor before the catalytic converter, i just used some wire cutters to cut both of them, and then attached the one that is supposed to go after the catalytic converter to the wiring that is supposed to go before it. now im wondering if this will actually work? are the o2 sensors the same?
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Rep Power: 0 They have different connections, and perform different functions. From what I've heard, the first 02 sensor reads is for adjusting air/fuel mixture, and the second one checks the cat.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Merciless
Yeah he is running 300hp but how much more is he goning to be able to squeeze out of that motor before it hits its limits and isn't very daily driveable. You can make anything fast BUT you can save money and get more power out of different motors. Yeah there are those mean SOHC motors out there but very few...why? Becuase they arent worth modding compared to a K20 or K24 or and DOHC motor that Honda makes. There is a reason these other motors are popular...
Tell me how much money has gone into this 300hp car. Maybe he is one of those few people that can make this power for cheap.
Also I dont see many Civics with LX motors running anywhere near a "fast" number. 13s are not fast.
Yeah he is running 300hp but how much more is he goning to be able to squeeze out of that motor before it hits its limits and isn't very daily driveable. You can make anything fast BUT you can save money and get more power out of different motors. Yeah there are those mean SOHC motors out there but very few...why? Becuase they arent worth modding compared to a K20 or K24 or and DOHC motor that Honda makes. There is a reason these other motors are popular...
Tell me how much money has gone into this 300hp car. Maybe he is one of those few people that can make this power for cheap.
Also I dont see many Civics with LX motors running anywhere near a "fast" number. 13s are not fast.
And yes, 13's are very fast for our cars. It would be dumb to compete against a WS6 or any other V8, but the fact that someone can say they have a fast SOHC, it's quite respectable.
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Rep Power: 0 coupestylz, i know they do different things, but are they the same setup? like is one sensor the same as the other? or do they have different designs? other then the connectors, does the actualy sensor differ?
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Rep Power: 0 Hey guys, sprry to ruin your post. back to the actual exhaust topic.
I currently am running a full ex catback off of my dx.
I have Kamikaze header, Tanabe Extension Pipe, and APEX-i n-1 exhaust. the tanabe extension pipe can be found at nopionline.com or optauto.com for around 120 bucks or so.
I currently am running a full ex catback off of my dx.
I have Kamikaze header, Tanabe Extension Pipe, and APEX-i n-1 exhaust. the tanabe extension pipe can be found at nopionline.com or optauto.com for around 120 bucks or so.
