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Old Nov 2, 2003
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Progress rear sway + Grey's endlinks problems

Ok, I just installed the Progress rear sway bar, and grey's endlinks, but I can't get the bar to clear the exhaust, any ideas? I have the sway bar set at the lowest position >_<

anyone else with EX's, and have the progress sway bar and used Grey's endlinks?
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i have the progress rear sway and the endlinks, its not the endlinks, its the exhaust, you have to bend it, its in the way.
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oh i know the endlinks dun cause the exhaust problem...i made a bad title for the thread, i had alignment issues with grey's enlinks...so how do i go about bending the exhaust?
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hondaluver, do u have an EX? if so, did u experience any problems aligning the endlinks? cause the mounting point on the control of the ex's point upward. DX/LX's have to buy progress mounting kits, and those mounting points point left/right parallel with the surface of the ground. Grey's endlinks were designed specifically for those sideways mounts, not the EX's upward mount...this is harder to describe but if u take a look at grey's endlink thread, the 2nd picture shows the mounting point and i think ull see what i mean.
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...light=endlinks
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i have a ex, and i didn't have a problem with the mounting... the way the endlinks look in those pictures is very simular to how mine are. i will post a pic tomarrow... im not haveing any problems other that a small clinking sound sometime in the front... it isn't too bad to notice...

and grey has a lx and is originally modeled after the progress mounting point
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go to a exaust shop and tell them to bend ur exaust to make it not hit
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yeah post pics...if your setup looks like the one in the pic, then something's different with my car! Did u notice the mounting point's direction? does urs point up?
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i'll try to post a pic too
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I need to see a pic of your setup to see what the problem is. I replied to your PM about this. Maybe you mounted them differently than I described in the instructions? You can also play with the washers to change the angle of the endlinks with relation to the sway bar. That's why I provide two washers on the endlinks instead of just one. This allows for some adjustment with different suspension heights.

As for the "clinking sound". Yeah, that's the sound I tried to engineer out of the endlinks. It's not that they're loose though. If you check the torque on them, then you'll find that they're torqued to the 47 foot pounds as specified in the instructions. It's hard to say what that is. There's some play betwean the bronze race and the chrome plated ball. That might cause it.

I'de like my endlinks to be totally free of this sound, but I can't think of anything to fix it (save using a new endlink with a teflon lined steel race). Then it'de be super tight with no play. The problem is that it would increase the price of the kit by $93 (for the full kit) and $46.50 (for the half kit). Plus I don't know if this is the problem. I might try it later on.

If I do figure something out, then I'll ship out a free upgrade to all of my customers (if they ask for it). That's only if it's under $5 for me to ship that sort of an upgrade out though. If it's a little over, then I'll ask for the difference from people who want to upgrade. How's that sound?
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sorry the pictures suck, its my phone that is taking the pics


my front sway with b-pipe off


rear sway endlink



front endlink

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omg...from the pic of the rear endlinks, it seems that hondaluver's ex and mine are different. Looks from the pic urs points inward like the one in Grey's DIY pic, i'll try to get a pic up asap
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HondaLuver: I think you installed the rear endlinks wrong. See how the front is installed? See the bracket that's attached to the lower control arm in the front? The flat side of the bracket should have the endlink on it. The back of it should just have the nut and washer. Unless your way of mounting it allows the endlinks to be more squared up?

Also... On the front. It looks like the whole assembly is loose. Did you tighten it to 47 foot pounds?
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Grey: in pic #2 - that's the way i have it on mine too...that's the only way to get the endlink even slightly square with the mounting point. else it'll be a worse slant than the one i have now...
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here's mine, i had to use THREE washers at the top (endlink - end of sway bar) to easy the angle a little, but its still pretty badly slanted.
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grey: here's the one on your DIY for reference...notice the direction of the mounting point..i marked the direction with that black arrow...the one in my pic points up.
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u can kinda see the slant, but it's worse than it looks, the pic is just blurred a little...bad focus
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u can't really tell, but the black rubber bushing on the left is pushed so far out that it is wedged over the aluminum washer on ITS left side.
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NOTE: For all those who are waiting for these endlinks...i'm not saying these are bad, just troubleshooting... don't take this thread the wrong way, these endlinks are still BADASS! Even when they're crooked, i just hope i didn't screw something up while i was testin em.
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Originally posted by Grey

As for the "clinking sound". Yeah, that's the sound I tried to engineer out of the endlinks. It's not that they're loose though. If you check the torque on them, then you'll find that they're torqued to the 47 foot pounds as specified in the instructions. It's hard to say what that is. There's some play betwean the bronze race and the chrome plated ball. That might cause it.
i didin't experience a clicking sound with my endlinks...besides the banging between exhaust piping and sway bar there were no other sounds...muffler problem is now fixed (thnx meineke)
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yea, these are great endlinks, well i have a ex with a stock enlink mounting, me and my mechanic that installed them like them because they wer big and thick, they work well, im not sure what the click sound is, i barley hear it. they way i have it is how the previous endlink was on.

i usually take this one freeway in LA about 75, and i usually can't really take it too fast(pasadena 110) but now since i put on my sway bars, i can push 100 easily on stockies on a "45 mph turn"

i know these endlinks will NEVER break...

thanx alot grey, how about you look at another persons car over there, like a 01 ex and look at the diffrences between ur lx and ex, im guess all of the 2002 and up have the same mounting location.
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do ur stock endlink mountings plates look like mine? specifically, do they point up like mine? looking at ur pic, it seems that they point in a diff direction than mine so i'm worried. What year's urs?
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i have a 01 ex civic, i mounted my endlinks exactly how you put yours on, with the rears the mounting point is on the inside and the sway is180 degrees and on the front it is the same also the the endlink on the outside and the endlink about 90 degrees
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coo coo...just makin sure...lets see what grey says...hopefully this won't prove to be a problem... no problems for you so far right?
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Ok, the pic you're referring to shows the front lower control arm, not the rear. That's why the mounting point is pointing sideways and not up. The mounting point in the rear points up. I didn't expect you to have to mount the endlink on the other side. Are you sure it wouldn't be better to mount it the way I intended? From the pictures it seems that the "crookedness" would even out across both ball joints instead of just one. Remember that the endlink itself can be crooked. It's the ball joints' perpendicularity that should be maintained.

Can someone try to mount an endlink the way I intended and send in a couple of pictures? Also, these pictures are taken when the suspension is at full droop. Remember that when the car is lowered to the ground the "crookedness" will be straightened out. If you take a picture of the enlinks when the car is on the ground, then you'll see that the angles are much more perpendicular.

Anyway, someone please please try mounting them the way I intended... I can't imagine it in 3D from the pictures, but it seems to me that the angles are better the way I envisioned. After all, I'm copying the stock endlinks, so there shouldn't be a problem. Wait, do the stock endlinks in the rear mount like these that you guys mounted? I don't think so, right?
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i did try mouting it the way on your pics...it didn't work...i will try to do it again, and then lower the car to see if that will fix the problem. Technically, if the car is raised and the setup is crooked, after lowering the car to the ground, it should straiten itself out correct? lemme try it.
Thanks alot grey!
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If I ever get my Progress Sway bar from Circa-X, I will have some fun. Since I have the DC Sports TCS system, and the sway bar being 22mm. I do have Grey's endlinks on the way, but thank god I have a muffler shop that can do the adjustments to the TCS because I heard that the Progress 22mm bar will not work to well with the TCS. I have yet to see this, but I will make it work. Thanks god for friends workin at the muffler shop, actually, knowing the owner. Will keep you guys posted (7thGen) as to what had to be done so others with the same setup will know what has to be done. But I am currently waiting on Circa-X...
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not much to mess around with, just have your muffler shop cut off the section of the piping that gets in the way and custom make another section that goes around the sway bar. Cheap and fast.



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