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Old Aug 12, 2003
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Well if they're illegal why was I told they are legal?

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Originally posted by xtiszx
put it this way, when i removed my cat, and ran stright pipe, i couldnt tell any diff, so i might of gained .1 hp
What? No header? Just a straight pipe? No wonder.
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Originally posted by IronFist
Well if they're illegal why was I told they are legal?

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Why don't you ask them after you read this?

Maybe you don't live in Cali but I do. Maybe you haven't been around a car without a cat that had to get smoged in Cali but I have. It's up to you who to believe but it's really common sense being in this state. You just don't drive around Cali with a replaced or even a modified catalytic converter and expect to pass smog because you won't. That's what a freeAr flowing high flow cat does to help make power with the new header as more air escapes from the header AND downpipe/cat, but at the cost of emissions.

I think you know Cali has the strictest emissions laws in the world and there is no way in hell Top Speed's header will pass emissions without giving the inspector a case of beer or paying extra at some places. It won't pass period.
Old Aug 14, 2003
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thaz what imma do...either buy them foo'z some beer or pay a lil extra...btw, im gettin cool blue colors on my header...hehe....
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its from the heat
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yeah i know, i was just stating that they are changing colors nicely...i advanced my cam gear 2 degrees yesterday and ran a 0-60 in 10.1 seconds...i retarded it 2 degrees today but have yet to run a 0-60...who else has bought this header besides me?
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Iv heard of some looking at getting the downpipe and cat, but none that i know of
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Wow dude I ran 10.2 without that header and downpipe - just an FIPK. I have 02 EX AT. See my GTech thread for more info.

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And no cam gear retarding, since I don't even know what that is/means.

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Yeah, I wouldn't put anything on my car that wasn't legal... Cops here in Cali are punks...
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hmmm

Originally posted by xtiszx
the stock cat isnt that restrictive at all, dunno why you said it is
well... i have the SF kit and for some reason, my stock cat got all messed up...

info on cats

anyway, i think what happened was that the exhaust gases were running way to hot and it melted the honeycomb portion inside the cat... With that said, I wasnt able to make boost nor was I able to rev higher than 4krpm. I disconnected the midpipe and the car works fine. It took me 5 days of troubleshooting and headaches to find that it was my cat. I was so pissed. Anyway, I am going to bore it out tomorrrow and since I live in a emissions-free state, I won't have to worry about my car being carb legal and whatnot...

If people do get turbo, I suggest boring it out or if you have boost problems, disconnect the downpipe from the midpipe before you go checking your other pipes for leaks... blah. i wish i knew about that before ... the cat was the last thing i did or could have thought of and yea... blah.

just my 2 cents.
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So would this down pipe be good to get for a turbo? It looks like it would bolt right up to everything. Any thoughts?
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robb, i thought the SF Turbo kit came with a downpipe that replaced the cat???
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Originally posted by sc1golfr
robb, i thought the SF Turbo kit came with a downpipe that replaced the cat???
no, the downpipe isnt connected to the cat. the midpipe is connected to the cat. if you live in an emissions free state, just bore out the cat like I did today... youll see huge gains.
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hey Rob, I read ur thread on ur cat problem..

and I dont remember if I replied to it or not..

I'm currently suspecting my cat is out too... or rather, clogged... causing excessive backpressure and the car can't speed up or lags or stalls sometimes.

this happens when theres low fuel in the car... and overall performance is greatly decreased too..

the exhaust gas shoudlnt' have been hot enough to do that... I think most cause of cat clogging is cause by the engine running too rich.... and excessive unburnt fuel reachs to the cat, and burns up there.. melting the catalyic....

I duno why its very evident when the car is low on fuel... for me it might be other problems, such as fuel filter clogged... was ur problem more evident during low fuel in the tank?

u should probably make sure u're not running too rich or lean...

what caused my problem was a leak in my exhaust manifold gasket, and I think it was constantly running rich for a long time... eventually killing the cat.
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Originally posted by CapYoda
hey Rob, I read ur thread on ur cat problem..

and I dont remember if I replied to it or not..

I'm currently suspecting my cat is out too... or rather, clogged... causing excessive backpressure and the car can't speed up or lags or stalls sometimes.

this happens when theres low fuel in the car... and overall performance is greatly decreased too..

the exhaust gas shoudlnt' have been hot enough to do that... I think most cause of cat clogging is cause by the engine running too rich.... and excessive unburnt fuel reachs to the cat, and burns up there.. melting the catalyic....

I duno why its very evident when the car is low on fuel... for me it might be other problems, such as fuel filter clogged... was ur problem more evident during low fuel in the tank?

u should probably make sure u're not running too rich or lean...

what caused my problem was a leak in my exhaust manifold gasket, and I think it was constantly running rich for a long time... eventually killing the cat.
exactly. that is what i think happened with mine- too rich and an exhaust leak... blah. i dont remember what it was like when the tank was low because i didnt drive it much and i had a full tank... did you fix it yet? do you have turbo too? the car has to run rich on turbo... i bored mine out today and it is 100% better if not more.
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nah. I dont have turbo..

I was using an aftermarket header though... one of the manifold bolt stripped and fell off.. so it was leaking.. heh.

I didn't notice for quite awhile. finally fixed that.. but the cat is dead now I think.. check engine light is on constantly..

I gotta go get it replaced.. I'm hoping the dealer would cover it.. course I'd pretend I have no idea how a cat would die at 30K. heh.

although the cat is under extensive warranty.. 7 or 8 years or 80,000 miles, I believe.

if I was in a emission free state, I'd simply bore out the cat or get a mid pipe in...

hmm if it has to constantly run rich, most people should watch for their cat then.

I just realized that most applications are done on the LX/DX so far.. and the turbo kit pretty much replaces the stock cat convertor on the LX/DX, thats why they dont have any problems. SF should have mentioned that you should watch ur cat from getting clogged...

anyway we're hogging this thread. heh.
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I have a question, PaCiFiKbAllA....How does your car smell now no really can you really smell the gas now.
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do you have an intake and exhaust?

i have a cold air, and a greddy, and i don't know what to do next whether to drop it, or buy a header and cat package...
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what a moron!

i only read the first page of this thread, not the last 7...disregard my post
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ttt cuz good info
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Originally posted by HYPR DRV
Looks just like my HP Header w/ Hi-Flow cat. Mine only cost $200 tho. Enjoy!!!
kool where did you get it so cheap ?
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so is the hp header a good header ? how about compared to the kamikaze ? wats the best downpipe to get ? iu already have the hp header and full catback just wanna get a downpipe now emission sis not a problem for me
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im going to PM Circa-X to see if they make them for LX's, it seems like a good investment, pretty cheap but Im just worried about the emissions tests, if i have to too I'll just put the stock header back on.

But i need to know....Can you use the HP, Kamikaze, Top speed header with the stock cat???? So i wont have to buy an new cat, or downpipe/cat
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only if it is a 4-1 shorty header not the 4-2-1 they replace the oem cat
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i have a hp 4-1 header for sale anyone interested ?
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is it for LX? And does it go over the oem cat? for all other info Email me at ibanez486@aol.com

Im definately interested if its for LX
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Originally posted by civicskater
is it for LX? And does it go over the oem cat? for all other info Email me at ibanez486@aol.com

Im definately interested if its for LX
im not sure it for an ex i know it can work on lx but more modification needed..

can someone help me out here im not sure i think the ex and lx muffler systems are different



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