Mobil 1 Prevents Engine Wear?????
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Hey everyone, lately I have been seeing this commercial on tv concerning mobil 1. They are saying that engines that use mobil 1, I think the synthetic type, after 200k show virtually no wear after extensive testing. Now, I use mobil 1 5w-30 full synthetic and I was just curious to know if that was true.
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Even with oil, some engine wear will occur, but some protect better than others. Mobil 1 may protect better than others, therefore causing less engine wear than others. I don't know this, but this is what im trying to ask. Not all engine oils are made equally.
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It's true. My boss used to work for Mobil Oil. When it first came out, they ran a BMW with mobil 1 for a million miles, took the engine apart and everything was still well within factory tolerances. I'll see if he still has the brochure from it.
Synthetics work so well you should not start using them until your motor has the first 15k-20k on it so the moving parts will mate. Using it too soon can keep your rings from seating correctly.
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you are not supposed to make your first oil change until like 8000.... honda puts special oil in for the first time that you are supposed to keep in there to break the engine in properly.... read your manual!
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Just run regular intervals. Theres no need to short change the first one. 4 or 5K, do it like normal. BMW is actually recommending 12K oil changes these days, and they're running Castrol Syntec from the factory.
My mother gave me her old trans am to restore when i was 16,
a '78 trans am with over 340k on the motor (i later rebuilt it at 360k for more power, and it still had 95% of factory spec compression before tear down)
The car has used full synthetic mobil 1 since 6k
at 70k the oil pump broke. the car was towed to a dealer where my uncle worked. i don't know all the details of the story, but while it was waiting for parts someone moved the car, started it, drove it across the lot...
my uncle pulled the motor apart because driving it "starved" should have ruined quite a bit...
he was suprised to find everything in perfect order...
i still own and drive the car. it's got over 400k on the motor, and still uses mobil 1 f.s.
another family member who was using mobil one had a nash rambler overheat and seize. how much of a role the oil played i don't know, but when the engine cooled it started and ran, he drove it home and it lasted another 30k before it got totalled.
IMHO, mobil one is the only oil for a car you care about keeping...
if you still doubt, my uncle now owns his own shop in harriman NY, they swear by mobil one, and you can find him and ask him youself why
a '78 trans am with over 340k on the motor (i later rebuilt it at 360k for more power, and it still had 95% of factory spec compression before tear down)
The car has used full synthetic mobil 1 since 6k
at 70k the oil pump broke. the car was towed to a dealer where my uncle worked. i don't know all the details of the story, but while it was waiting for parts someone moved the car, started it, drove it across the lot...
my uncle pulled the motor apart because driving it "starved" should have ruined quite a bit...
he was suprised to find everything in perfect order...
i still own and drive the car. it's got over 400k on the motor, and still uses mobil 1 f.s.
another family member who was using mobil one had a nash rambler overheat and seize. how much of a role the oil played i don't know, but when the engine cooled it started and ran, he drove it home and it lasted another 30k before it got totalled.
IMHO, mobil one is the only oil for a car you care about keeping...
if you still doubt, my uncle now owns his own shop in harriman NY, they swear by mobil one, and you can find him and ask him youself why
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Those 3 situations are really convincing on the reputation of mobil 1. I think this will be the only fully synthetic oil that I use in my civic. I don't drive my car too hard, but knowing that it will have such good protection is really reassuring.
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The reason why honda recommends 5w20 is to meet goverment regulations (<----quoting htowncivicex.... ex-honda technician)
I used to run Mobil 1 Synthethic Blend & then switched to regular oil....omg.. I kid you not my engine sounds harsh lately. Even shell regular oil makes my engine harsh. No it's not under filled either..... oh well. Mobil 1 all the way!
I used to run Mobil 1 Synthethic Blend & then switched to regular oil....omg.. I kid you not my engine sounds harsh lately. Even shell regular oil makes my engine harsh. No it's not under filled either..... oh well. Mobil 1 all the way!
SMX Synthetics work so well you should not start using them until your motor has the first 15k-20k on it so the moving parts will mate. Using it too soon can keep your rings from seating correctly.
IDQcivic you are not supposed to make your first oil change until like 8000.... honda puts special oil in for the first time that you are supposed to keep in there to break the engine in properly.... read your manual!
are u 2 really sure about this??
really??
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Originally posted by ak
The reason why honda recommends 5w20 is to meet goverment regulations (<----quoting htowncivicex.... ex-honda technician)
I used to run Mobil 1 Synthethic Blend & then switched to regular oil....omg.. I kid you not my engine sounds harsh lately. Even shell regular oil makes my engine harsh. No it's not under filled either..... oh well. Mobil 1 all the way!
The reason why honda recommends 5w20 is to meet goverment regulations (<----quoting htowncivicex.... ex-honda technician)
I used to run Mobil 1 Synthethic Blend & then switched to regular oil....omg.. I kid you not my engine sounds harsh lately. Even shell regular oil makes my engine harsh. No it's not under filled either..... oh well. Mobil 1 all the way!
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Yea basically when you switch from a petroleum based oil(regular) to synthetic, all the carbon build up in your engine is basically removed. If you don't switch early enough, all these carbon build ups will mess up your engine when you switch to synthetic. I am pretty sure of this, my father is an engineer who deals with this stuff.
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Yea basically when you switch from a petroleum based oil(regular) to synthetic, all the carbon build up in your engine is basically removed. If you don't switch early enough, all these carbon build ups will mess up your engine when you switch to synthetic. I am pretty sure of this, my father is an engineer who deals with this stuff.
Yea basically when you switch from a petroleum based oil(regular) to synthetic, all the carbon build up in your engine is basically removed. If you don't switch early enough, all these carbon build ups will mess up your engine when you switch to synthetic. I am pretty sure of this, my father is an engineer who deals with this stuff.
when i switch to synthetic, do i change oil one more time?
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Originally posted by Boilermaker1
I can't remember where I saw it... but once you go synthetic... you're not supposed to go back. The synthetic coats everything (which is why those guys say the car was driven dry, and still worked), and if you go back to conventional oil, you "wash it off" and make a mess.
I can't remember where I saw it... but once you go synthetic... you're not supposed to go back. The synthetic coats everything (which is why those guys say the car was driven dry, and still worked), and if you go back to conventional oil, you "wash it off" and make a mess.
Yes i regret going back to regular Might put synthethic blend or full next time.
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Originally posted by 2k3civic
so if i do put synt. how offten do i change the oil??
so if i do put synt. how offten do i change the oil??
All synthetic motor oils are not made the same...additives are different. I work in the oil and gas industry...fiance works at Exxon/Mobile, best friend works at Shell Chemical and last but not least my father has been in the oil and gas industry since the late 70's.
With that said I run the Red Cap Mobile 1 syn oil in my car and a Bosch filter(yes every time).
I also race my car at SCCA and TWS sanctioned events. And the inside of my engine still looks great at 60,000+ miles. I change my oil every time before going to a race and after...as well as the plugs (whole nother story) and change the oil every 3,500 to 4,500 miles pending how I have driven the car between oil changes.
Redline motor oil is what I run in my Z28...simply because it sits when not at the track.
The reason I do not run it in my Honda is because it breaks down a lot faster and requires more frequent oil changes. Royal Purple? Same story. Hope this helps.
With that said I run the Red Cap Mobile 1 syn oil in my car and a Bosch filter(yes every time).
I also race my car at SCCA and TWS sanctioned events. And the inside of my engine still looks great at 60,000+ miles. I change my oil every time before going to a race and after...as well as the plugs (whole nother story) and change the oil every 3,500 to 4,500 miles pending how I have driven the car between oil changes.
Redline motor oil is what I run in my Z28...simply because it sits when not at the track.
The reason I do not run it in my Honda is because it breaks down a lot faster and requires more frequent oil changes. Royal Purple? Same story. Hope this helps.
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if you're going to use Mobil one sync... consider Mobil 1® with SuperSyn™ 0W-20 , I suppose they just came out with this one.. the regular Mobil 1 Tri-Sync isn't true, full synthethic. The SuperSyn is though.
a lot of other brands aren't full sync too... some are. look it up.
another one off the top of my head is amsoil whatever.
from what I gather, yes... highmileage car that has been running conventional oil and switching to sync may cause leak...
but supposely some unlucky people still get the leaks even if they have low mileage.
then again there are also people with 80+ k on their car and they switched... and they're okay.
ah.. oil changes are expensive. heh. when you want the sync stuff.
I suppose thats why people do it themselves.
perhaps its time to switch too.... but I'm so lazy.
a lot of other brands aren't full sync too... some are. look it up.
another one off the top of my head is amsoil whatever.
from what I gather, yes... highmileage car that has been running conventional oil and switching to sync may cause leak...
but supposely some unlucky people still get the leaks even if they have low mileage.
then again there are also people with 80+ k on their car and they switched... and they're okay.
ah.. oil changes are expensive. heh. when you want the sync stuff.
I suppose thats why people do it themselves.
perhaps its time to switch too.... but I'm so lazy.
Mobil's website states that you can change from conventional oil to synthetic and back whenever and however you please. It will not affect the engine in anyway. 5W20 is what Honda recommends for the D17A, but 5W30 is completely compatible as well. Although Mobil 1 is a fantastic synthetic oil, it is surpassed in performance by Amsoil.
The issue with swapping oils is for cars with lots of miles and gunk built up from not using a detergent motor oil. If you use non-detergent for years and put in a detergent oil, you can free up gunk that can work its way through bearings, etc. on the way to the filter (probably more a problem in the '70s and '80s before most of you were born). As long as you've used a good detergent oil from day one, it's no problem swapping back and forth from synthetic to non-synth. I know guys that run a mix of syn and non-syn in their drag cars to get the lubrication and viscosity performance they want. (seems like too much effort to me, but I'm not running at that level)
Synthetics last longer, but they still get carbon and other crap suspend in it. Change it at manual-prescribed intervals and rest assured that you're getting the best lubrication possible. Change your filter every time too. It's cheap insurance.
Finally, someone asked if it's OK to run synth at 2k miles. The answer is a question: "have your rings scuffed in yet???". If they haven't, the answer is no. Wait for you motor to fully break, then switch, like at the third oil change.
Synthetics last longer, but they still get carbon and other crap suspend in it. Change it at manual-prescribed intervals and rest assured that you're getting the best lubrication possible. Change your filter every time too. It's cheap insurance.
Finally, someone asked if it's OK to run synth at 2k miles. The answer is a question: "have your rings scuffed in yet???". If they haven't, the answer is no. Wait for you motor to fully break, then switch, like at the third oil change.
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