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Old Apr 23, 2003
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Supercharger...

I saw on the site there is a supercharger out for the RSX-S. I know the Si has the same intake manifold as the RSX type S and the pulleys are in the same spot. Is it safe to assume this supercharger will work on the new Si? I really want to consider buying one. Thanks
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I would recommend going turbo instead of supercharger. Rev hard make s a nice turbo producing over 240 whp @ 7 psi. Great numbers if you ask me. Superchargers just dont look too promising for any type of civic. Jackson racing is coming out with a supercharger that will only put out about 180 whp which totally sucks if you ask me. That is about 40 whp for $4k. Very depressing.

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heh.. heh.. SC TC .. its all good
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alll your supercharging needs are below

http://www.superchargersonline.com/superchargers.asp
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Originally posted by Booohahaha
heh.. heh.. SC TC .. its all good
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Well, the thing about a SC is that you will NEVER make as much power as you can with a turbo. Not to mention that a turbo runs off of you exhaust recyling energy, while the supercharger runs off of the belt wasting some extra power.
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The only problem with turbos is all the other mods that go into making the car work properly. You usually have to install an intercooler and many other modifications. With a supercharger all you need is the supercharge and a fuel pump and your basically done. Plus gaining 40 to 50 horsepower of any modification is pretty damn good especially if it doesn't harm the rest of your motor.
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How can you justify getting only 40-50 hp from a $4k mod??? If you are into wasting money then go ahead and do it. But if I were to spend $4k, I damn well better be getting way over 100 whp out of it.
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Hey I'm not justifying spending 4k on any mod let alone a supercharger. My only point was a supercharger will do less harm to your motor in the long run. I am a big believer in getting good horsepower gains while also maintaining the reliability of my engine. With that said turbos are a huge burden on a motor without the proper modifications and with all those installed a turbo kit can easily be in excess of 5-6k. So in the end it is the owners call.
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I will only get the supercharger if it comes out around $2000-$2500 range. The one they are going to use on are car is about the same as the Focus and sometimes they have run a special on it to fit that price range.
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anyone have a link to that rev hard turbo? know how much it costs? anyone actully done it to their ep?
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I thought it was superchargers that hurt the engines in the long run. Dont they force the engine to work harder. I couldve sworn that turbos are better for the long run.
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theres a jackson racing supercharger out for the 03 SiR...it puts out like 219hp....jackson racing says it runs 14.7...
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ok...if you want more bang for your buck, typically a turbocharger is the way to go. there are a few caveats in ANY forced induction system: fueling, timing, emissions(if applicable), engine wear, and driveability. you have to take ALL these into consideration. if you go for a moderate setup, you can minimize the dangers and wear. 240 hp sounds nice, but in a FWD platform, it's just not very effective for the street.

the nice thing about a supercharger is the throttle response and driveability (day-to-day). you get a flatter torque curve and a steadier power curve. turbos tend to be peaky (lag) and are hard to tune for low rpm boost. i just want to get in the car and drive it, not fuss with controls so i can make certain i won't detonate. personally, i would LOVE to see a JRSC for my si. sure, i've heard the nightmares of the cars doing this or that, not making the power, blah, blah, blah.

who cares?

where is 220 hp at the front wheels going to benefit me? street racing? no. i don't condone it. autocross? no. 220 hp from a turbo won't help at the relatively low speeds of an autocross (a supercharger will). track day? YES. however, you can still get schooled by a better driver in a slower car.

each system has it's pros and cons, you just need to decide which is better for you and your budget. the cliche is true...power costs money, how much do you got?
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the nice thing about a supercharger is the throttle response and driveability (day-to-day). you get a flatter torque curve and a steadier power curve. turbos tend to be peaky (lag) and are hard to tune for low rpm boost. i just want to get in the car and drive it, not fuss with controls so i can make certain i won't detonate. personally, i would LOVE to see a JRSC for my si.


exactly, with an SC, the power is ALWAYS there, no lag BS, no sudden jerk when the power comes in, no need to let it cool down after u run it hard, and SC's(to my knowledge) dont have to be rebuilt after a few years


where is 220 hp at the front wheels going to benefit me? street racing? no. i don't condone it. autocross? no. 220 hp from a turbo won't help at the relatively low speeds of an autocross (a supercharger will). track day? YES. however, you can still get schooled by a better driver in a slower car.


i think people just like to hear that pssst sound, personally that doesnt make me get all hot and bothered, but hey if you goota have that psst to be cool, go for it
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There is two JR superchargers going to available for the EP hatch and here is the dyno results from the JR site

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i like the first one!
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the first dyno is crap. I get 149 to the wheels with i/h/e. I think their dyno really sucked, or their demo sucked. As for the Type S jrsc fitting the si, not going to happen. Doesn't work like that. The kit should be out on November as it says on their site.

It all depends on what you want speed wise if you go turbo or sc.
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yeah, but you won't get 178.

i'm already in a turbo-kit vehicle, i want the supercharger for driveability.
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Originally posted by zum_zum
yeah, but you won't get 178.

i'm already in a turbo-kit vehicle, i want the supercharger for driveability.
? who me? I assume you are talking na wise...of course not, not unless I go nuts modding it internally, which I won't. I'm leaning more towards a type s motor with toda cams, springs, reflash ecu, toda flywheel and clutch. good for about 225whp and 153wtq.
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good luck!
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Originally posted by zum_zum
good luck!
no luck needed. It's been done already
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by you?
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Originally posted by zum_zum
by you?
not by me, but I've seen it done and with dyno results. Superstreet couldn't believe a rsx-s motor could make that much of a gain NA. So they went to see if to believe it. In was in their latest issue. The RSX-S made 225whp and 153 in torque. All it had was i/h/e toda cams and springs, reflashed ecu, toda flywheel and clutch. No dyno tuning was needed.
 
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