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Supercharger...
I saw on the site there is a supercharger out for the RSX-S. I know the Si has the same intake manifold as the RSX type S and the pulleys are in the same spot. Is it safe to assume this supercharger will work on the new Si? I really want to consider buying one. Thanks
I would recommend going turbo instead of supercharger. Rev hard make s a nice turbo producing over 240 whp @ 7 psi. Great numbers if you ask me. Superchargers just dont look too promising for any type of civic. Jackson racing is coming out with a supercharger that will only put out about 180 whp which totally sucks if you ask me. That is about 40 whp for $4k. Very depressing.
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Originally posted by Booohahaha
heh.. heh.. SC TC .. its all good
hMmmm!!
heh.. heh.. SC TC .. its all good
hMmmm!!
The only problem with turbos is all the other mods that go into making the car work properly. You usually have to install an intercooler and many other modifications. With a supercharger all you need is the supercharge and a fuel pump and your basically done. Plus gaining 40 to 50 horsepower of any modification is pretty damn good especially if it doesn't harm the rest of your motor.
Hey I'm not justifying spending 4k on any mod let alone a supercharger. My only point was a supercharger will do less harm to your motor in the long run. I am a big believer in getting good horsepower gains while also maintaining the reliability of my engine. With that said turbos are a huge burden on a motor without the proper modifications and with all those installed a turbo kit can easily be in excess of 5-6k. So in the end it is the owners call.
I will only get the supercharger if it comes out around $2000-$2500 range. The one they are going to use on are car is about the same as the Focus and sometimes they have run a special on it to fit that price range.
ok...if you want more bang for your buck, typically a turbocharger is the way to go. there are a few caveats in ANY forced induction system: fueling, timing, emissions(if applicable), engine wear, and driveability. you have to take ALL these into consideration. if you go for a moderate setup, you can minimize the dangers and wear. 240 hp sounds nice, but in a FWD platform, it's just not very effective for the street.
the nice thing about a supercharger is the throttle response and driveability (day-to-day). you get a flatter torque curve and a steadier power curve. turbos tend to be peaky (lag) and are hard to tune for low rpm boost. i just want to get in the car and drive it, not fuss with controls so i can make certain i won't detonate. personally, i would LOVE to see a JRSC for my si. sure, i've heard the nightmares of the cars doing this or that, not making the power, blah, blah, blah.
who cares?
where is 220 hp at the front wheels going to benefit me? street racing? no. i don't condone it. autocross? no. 220 hp from a turbo won't help at the relatively low speeds of an autocross (a supercharger will). track day? YES. however, you can still get schooled by a better driver in a slower car.
each system has it's pros and cons, you just need to decide which is better for you and your budget. the cliche is true...power costs money, how much do you got?
the nice thing about a supercharger is the throttle response and driveability (day-to-day). you get a flatter torque curve and a steadier power curve. turbos tend to be peaky (lag) and are hard to tune for low rpm boost. i just want to get in the car and drive it, not fuss with controls so i can make certain i won't detonate. personally, i would LOVE to see a JRSC for my si. sure, i've heard the nightmares of the cars doing this or that, not making the power, blah, blah, blah.
who cares?
where is 220 hp at the front wheels going to benefit me? street racing? no. i don't condone it. autocross? no. 220 hp from a turbo won't help at the relatively low speeds of an autocross (a supercharger will). track day? YES. however, you can still get schooled by a better driver in a slower car.
each system has it's pros and cons, you just need to decide which is better for you and your budget. the cliche is true...power costs money, how much do you got?
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the nice thing about a supercharger is the throttle response and driveability (day-to-day). you get a flatter torque curve and a steadier power curve. turbos tend to be peaky (lag) and are hard to tune for low rpm boost. i just want to get in the car and drive it, not fuss with controls so i can make certain i won't detonate. personally, i would LOVE to see a JRSC for my si.
exactly, with an SC, the power is ALWAYS there, no lag BS, no sudden jerk when the power comes in, no need to let it cool down after u run it hard, and SC's(to my knowledge) dont have to be rebuilt after a few years
where is 220 hp at the front wheels going to benefit me? street racing? no. i don't condone it. autocross? no. 220 hp from a turbo won't help at the relatively low speeds of an autocross (a supercharger will). track day? YES. however, you can still get schooled by a better driver in a slower car.
i think people just like to hear that pssst sound, personally that doesnt make me get all hot and bothered, but hey if you goota have that psst to be cool, go for it
exactly, with an SC, the power is ALWAYS there, no lag BS, no sudden jerk when the power comes in, no need to let it cool down after u run it hard, and SC's(to my knowledge) dont have to be rebuilt after a few years
where is 220 hp at the front wheels going to benefit me? street racing? no. i don't condone it. autocross? no. 220 hp from a turbo won't help at the relatively low speeds of an autocross (a supercharger will). track day? YES. however, you can still get schooled by a better driver in a slower car.
i think people just like to hear that pssst sound, personally that doesnt make me get all hot and bothered, but hey if you goota have that psst to be cool, go for it
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the first dyno is crap. I get 149 to the wheels with i/h/e. I think their dyno really sucked, or their demo sucked. As for the Type S jrsc fitting the si, not going to happen. Doesn't work like that. The kit should be out on November as it says on their site.
It all depends on what you want speed wise if you go turbo or sc.
It all depends on what you want speed wise if you go turbo or sc.
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Originally posted by zum_zum
yeah, but you won't get 178.
i'm already in a turbo-kit vehicle, i want the supercharger for driveability.
yeah, but you won't get 178.
i'm already in a turbo-kit vehicle, i want the supercharger for driveability.
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Originally posted by zum_zum
by you?
by you?
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