Buy, Sell, & Trade - Archive Get a sweet deal from another member on those parts you've been wanting, or be the member thats selling them!

EP Pro's & Con's

 
Thread Tools
 
Old May 17, 2004
  #1  
speedcreations's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 423
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Rep Power: 0
speedcreations is an unknown quantity at this point
EP Pro's & Con's

I am thinking about buying an Si.
Those of you who have one, what are some of your personal pro's and con's about the car?

Thanks
Old May 17, 2004
  #2  
Mr.Modify's Avatar
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,852
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Texas
Rep Power: 468
Mr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to all
i know one ....it;s faster then the em2
Old May 17, 2004
  #3  
Spider883's Avatar
9K Redline Owns U
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,230
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach, Florida, US
Rep Power: 349
Spider883 will become famous soon enoughSpider883 will become famous soon enough
pro... more products out there
con... looks like a mini van
Old May 17, 2004
  #4  
Mr.Modify's Avatar
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,852
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Texas
Rep Power: 468
Mr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to allMr.Modify is a name known to all
^^^yea it does kinda look like a minivan hahahaha.
Old May 18, 2004
  #5  
Spider883's Avatar
9K Redline Owns U
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,230
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach, Florida, US
Rep Power: 349
Spider883 will become famous soon enoughSpider883 will become famous soon enough
its the odessay type r.. ahaha
Old May 18, 2004
  #6  
esmith13's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: Philly, PA
Rep Power: 0
esmith13 is an unknown quantity at this point
i love mine.

only con for me is how long it takes to get parts for it!!!

having a new body and a new motor - it takes FOREVER for the aftermarket to get into gear.

Aside from that - 2yrs and 42,000mi later i can't stand to think of owning anything else!!

Eric
Old May 18, 2004
  #7  
Ramones's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 459
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Ramones is an unknown quantity at this point
I put up a post in the general auto ramblings today about the Si.
The car gets a from me just because the car is REALLY easy to drive right from the get go. The car has a nice shifter placement, light clutch, comfy seats, and smooth quite engine.

Remember a fast car doesn't automatically equal a fun car. i would rather spend money on a car like the Si which has good acceleration, ok handling, and gets good mileage on 87 octane
Old May 19, 2004
  #8  
speedcreations's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 423
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Rep Power: 0
speedcreations is an unknown quantity at this point
My old roommate had one and it was pretty fun to drive. Someone in my area has one for sale. 02', White, 8K for only $15,000
I didn't think that was that bad of a deal.....
Old May 20, 2004
  #9  
kidXStreme's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
kidXStreme is an unknown quantity at this point
get it!!!!!!!!! i have an ep and love it. unique car...
Old May 22, 2004
  #10  
dragoon's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 6,939
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Rep Power: 0
dragoon is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by speedcreations
My old roommate had one and it was pretty fun to drive. Someone in my area has one for sale. 02', White, 8K for only $15,000
I didn't think that was that bad of a deal.....
I was about to get one for 15k new, that's not all that great of a deal.
Old May 31, 2004
  #11  
specialblend154's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: Herndon VA
Rep Power: 0
specialblend154 is an unknown quantity at this point
i like mine alot.. only thing that pisses me off is i have springs, buddy club kit, racing hearts, cf hood, 7" monitior but now that i bought it all i dont know if i wanna put it in cause i might wanna get other things now.... like a diffrent kit ( or none at all) diffrent rims(bronze or gold) and now want coilovers... damn!
Old May 31, 2004
  #12  
bao_pay's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
bao_pay is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by dragoon
I was about to get one for 15k new, that's not all that great of a deal.
True to your title! You are a true low baller! But I'm going to have to call BS on $15 new. Theres no way in hell you can buy a new one off the lot for $15K. The car is listed at $26000 and with taxes and everything it comes out to a little over $30g's. BUT, because the car isn't selling well most people bought it for around $26-27G's on the road and that my friend is an amazing price. There is no way in hell the car will sell brand new for $15K. Even if its $15k before taxes, after taxes and everything the car will list at under $20G's which is less than what the dealership pays for the car! If you can find a dealer whos selling at this price, post it up on this board so that I can trade in my '02 SiR and get an '04 as a straight trade in for the car!
Old May 31, 2004
  #13  
specialblend154's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
From: Herndon VA
Rep Power: 0
specialblend154 is an unknown quantity at this point
i got mine for like 18k in nov 03
Old Jun 1, 2004
  #14  
PapiTuyo326's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Miramar
Rep Power: 0
PapiTuyo326 is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by bao_pay
True to your title! You are a true low baller! But I'm going to have to call BS on $15 new. Theres no way in hell you can buy a new one off the lot for $15K. The car is listed at $26000 and with taxes and everything it comes out to a little over $30g's. BUT, because the car isn't selling well most people bought it for around $26-27G's on the road and that my friend is an amazing price. There is no way in hell the car will sell brand new for $15K. Even if its $15k before taxes, after taxes and everything the car will list at under $20G's which is less than what the dealership pays for the car! If you can find a dealer whos selling at this price, post it up on this board so that I can trade in my '02 SiR and get an '04 as a straight trade in for the car!

ummmmm ur in canada man.....im almost positive his price is in AMERICAN dollars lol

15k is not impossible...ive heard of people gettin 15.7 and 16.2 new so its not too crazy...
Old Jun 1, 2004
  #15  
RED03EX's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: Louisville
Rep Power: 0
RED03EX is an unknown quantity at this point
I dont know where your gettin your pricing from but I know for a fact that the dealers only pay about 15K for the cars. Depends on how much volume they can sell. The dealer I use to work for would pick them up cheap couse of the volume they would sell in civics alone. Thats what the priceing is based on, how much of a certain model they sell makes the price. So, yeah, 15,500 or 15K is about right for an 03 Si thats been sittin on the lot for a while. Remember, they still have to pay taxes on every car thats on the lot at the begining of the year. So, they blow the cars out around the end of the year to save money. Dealers loose more money when they dont sell cars that are hard to move then they do when they sell them cheap. Honda, as well as other manufactures give dealers incentives and dealer cash for sellin the cars, no matter how much they sell it for. Its a business where no matter what, the dealer wont loose money.
Old Jun 4, 2004
  #16  
k20importtuner's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Rep Power: 0
k20importtuner is an unknown quantity at this point
I got my Si brand new for $17k right when it came out.
The next day it dropped to $16k which kind sucked but oh well.
Not it sells well new for $14-$15g range.
02-03 is nicer than 04 IMO though
but I love em all :-)
Old Jun 5, 2004
  #17  
speedcreations's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 423
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Rep Power: 0
speedcreations is an unknown quantity at this point
yeah... the 04's headlights and tails are a little weird lookin'
Old Jun 5, 2004
  #18  
scatman's Avatar
Still in the game...
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,263
Likes: 0
From: Western MA
Rep Power: 348
scatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to beholdscatman is a splendid one to behold
the dealers pay 17,426 for the 04 si's. I got my 04 for 17,900 (with the destination chagre added) so basically i got it at invoice price
Old Jun 8, 2004
  #19  
bloodzombie's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
bloodzombie is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by speedcreations
yeah... the 04's headlights and tails are a little weird lookin'
I think they improved the headlights in '04, but the tails aren't as good. seems like a fair trade.

It seems to me that if you're paying anywhere near 30k, even in canadian dollars, that's way too much. last I checked the exchange rate was about 1.35 to 1, so at 18k in US dollars, you'd pay 24,300 in canada.

But then again, what do I know? I leased mine.


as for the original post in this thread, the only downside to it aside from the looks (it really grows on you once you get it, though), is the transmission on the '02s, but I think they improved that in the newer ones.
Old Jun 8, 2004
  #20  
speedcreations's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 423
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Rep Power: 0
speedcreations is an unknown quantity at this point
What's w/ the tranny in the 02's ep's? Can't be any worse than in my 02 civic(p.o.s)! lol
Old Jun 8, 2004
  #21  
bloodzombie's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
bloodzombie is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by speedcreations
What's w/ the tranny in the 02's ep's? Can't be any worse than in my 02 civic(p.o.s)! lol
A lot of EP3 owners complain about the same thing, a "notchy" feeling when shifting first to second (some complain about second to third too, but I don't have that). When shifting at high RPMs sometimes it just won't go into second and even though the clutch is pressed, it grinds. It should be covered under warranty, but some dealerships give you a hard time because they take it for a little drive around the block and say it feels fine... it's hard to tell them "no, you have to really rev it like you're racing".

I haven't tried taking mine in yet, but I really should get it done since I only have 10k left on the warranty and it takes some people multiple visits before it gets fixed properly.
Old Jun 11, 2004
  #22  
Falzidol's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: NY
Rep Power: 0
Falzidol is an unknown quantity at this point
04 Si

I used to have a 2003 Honda Civic EX. I was gonna upgrade it etc, etc. Instead i traded it in for a 04 si. I fell in love with it when i took it for a test drive. Once i lowered it just about 1" (for now), it didn't have the look of a mini van any more. It handles like a dream. There is barely any body roll. The shifter is in the perfect spot. I can't wait to upgrade this si. It's worth modding. Theres a big difference between 127hp in my old civic ex, and my brand new 04 Si that's stock 160hp. Along with being a lighter car. The only thing i do not like about the 04 si. Is the stock head lights. Really ugly and bubbly. Just have to wait for aftermarket products.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
beanhead
Archive - Vehicles for Sale/Wanted
1
Sep 24, 2015 12:04 PM
krazykoncepts
Canada East
0
Sep 8, 2015 09:02 PM
Chameleonman
Bolt-on Engine Performance
4
Sep 5, 2015 04:06 AM
Dangerousjordan
7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005
9
Jul 28, 2015 08:24 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:27 AM.