thoughts on RACE wheels? (pics) [edited for all race wheels]
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thoughts on RACE wheels? (pics) [edited for all race wheels]
i'm looking into rims for auto-x (i don't think my stock steelies are going to cut it). has anyone looked into flik wheels?
Size: 15x6.5
PCD: 4x100
ET: 40
Weight: 11.9lbs.
basically spoon knock-offs like rotas. only $89 each.
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Size: 15x6.5
PCD: 4x100
ET: 40
Weight: 12lbs.
also comes in bronze, silver and red
out of stock right now, but i'm guessing around $100 each.
what do you guys think?
Size: 15x6.5
PCD: 4x100
ET: 40
Weight: 11.9lbs.
basically spoon knock-offs like rotas. only $89 each.
Size: 15x6.5
PCD: 4x100
ET: 40
Weight: 12lbs.
also comes in bronze, silver and red
out of stock right now, but i'm guessing around $100 each.
what do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Dont bother with 6.5" wheels for racing... not worth it. Look for a nice 15X7.
i keep trying to find some 15x7s in light weight rims, but not too much luck. have any links?
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ok I PM'd but maybe it's better to get the answer here for everyone to see.
I dont see the big deal in whether you use a 6.5 or a 7 so could you explain?
I dont see the big deal in whether you use a 6.5 or a 7 so could you explain?
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ok I PM'd but maybe it's better to get the answer here for everyone to see.
I dont see the big deal in whether you use a 6.5 or a 7 so could you explain?
I dont see the big deal in whether you use a 6.5 or a 7 so could you explain?
the wider the wheel, the wider the tire you can use. a bigger tire foot-print means you get more traction. .5 might not seem like a big difference, but when you add up all 4 wheels, thats 2 inchs of diameter total, and even more of a total foot-print area.
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Originally Posted by Skunk2ner
the wider the wheel, the wider the tire you can use. a bigger tire foot-print means you get more traction. .5 might not seem like a big difference, but when you add up all 4 wheels, thats 2 inchs of diameter total, and even more of a total foot-print area.
I understand that but I just don't see it making a HUGE difference with this particular car....
I just got 15x6.5 slips cuz I wasn't about to wait an additional 2 months on top of the 1.5 to get them....
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Originally Posted by Pharoh
I understand that but I just don't see it making a HUGE difference with this particular car....
I just got 15x6.5 slips cuz I wasn't about to wait an additional 2 months on top of the 1.5 to get them....
I just got 15x6.5 slips cuz I wasn't about to wait an additional 2 months on top of the 1.5 to get them....
i don't think there is 'that' big of a difference, but probably a noticable one. wider rims also weigh more. gaining weight for gaining traction.
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Originally Posted by Pharoh
I understand that but I just don't see it making a HUGE difference with this particular car....
I just got 15x6.5 slips cuz I wasn't about to wait an additional 2 months on top of the 1.5 to get them....
I just got 15x6.5 slips cuz I wasn't about to wait an additional 2 months on top of the 1.5 to get them....
I have 6.5's too... but I know better now.
Performance wise, I've seen as much as a 2 second difference between a 6.5 and 7" wheel on the same car (Same brand/size tire Kumho MX 205/50-15 running on a 1989 Civic Si.).. However the amount of time difference will vary greatly between tires. Example, the Falken azenis isnt effected as much when mounted on a 7 Vs 6.5" wheel, but the Kumho MX is. thats becuase the MX has softer sidewalls. So your results may vary due to tire selection.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
I have 6.5's too... but I know better now.
Performance wise, I've seen as much as a 2 second difference between a 6.5 and 7" wheel on the same car (Same brand/size tire Kumho MX 205/50-15 running on a 1989 Civic Si.).. However the amount of time difference will vary greatly between tires. Example, the Falken azenis isnt effected as much when mounted on a 7 Vs 6.5" wheel, but the Kumho MX is. thats becuase the MX has softer sidewalls. So your results may vary due to tire selection.
Performance wise, I've seen as much as a 2 second difference between a 6.5 and 7" wheel on the same car (Same brand/size tire Kumho MX 205/50-15 running on a 1989 Civic Si.).. However the amount of time difference will vary greatly between tires. Example, the Falken azenis isnt effected as much when mounted on a 7 Vs 6.5" wheel, but the Kumho MX is. thats becuase the MX has softer sidewalls. So your results may vary due to tire selection.
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Originally Posted by Skunk2ner
i think real spoon rims only come in a 15x6.5
i don't think there is 'that' big of a difference, but probably a noticable one.
i don't think there is 'that' big of a difference, but probably a noticable one.
The Old Spoons were originally designed for the Older civics/integras and they were also designed to meet Certin racing classing restrictions... which is why they are only 6.5" wide. we can fit a much wider wheel and have no such restrictions (Assuming you arnt running SCCA autocross in Stock or STS classes). So why not run the widest thing you can fit?
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Rep Power: 380 heres a good thread from SCCAforums that goes over this whole subject between width Vs weight..
http://www.sccaforums.com/cgi-bin/ul...22/677?#000000
http://www.sccaforums.com/cgi-bin/ul...22/677?#000000
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Originally Posted by Pharoh
I'm running with BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KD's
Good tires, compariable in dry performance to the Faken Azenis and Kumho MX... Reason you dont see them much on ST cars is because they cost twice as much as its compeitors.... so why spend twice as much on a tire thats not gong to make you faster on course? But for a street tire... I'd sport them if I had the $, better wet traction Quieter, Softer ride... They make for a MUCH better street tire. but as a track only tire, there are cheeper tires that are just as fast.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Good tires, compariable in dry performance to the Faken Azenis and Kumho MX... Reason you dont see them much on ST cars is because they cost twice as much as its compeitors.... so why spend twice as much on a tire thats not gong to make you faster on course? But for a street tire... I'd sport them if I had the $, better wet traction Quieter, Softer ride... They make for a MUCH better street tire. but as a track only tire, there are cheeper tires that are just as fast.
I get 'em for free
Thanks for the comparisson though ! 
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Rep Power: 380 I remeber you telling me that, You got the 205's right? Next time try the 225's... and enjoy the extra traction 
Like I said, I'd sport them, but I cant justify spending that much $$$ on a tire that I might get 8-10,000 Miles out of...
Like I said, I'd sport them, but I cant justify spending that much $$$ on a tire that I might get 8-10,000 Miles out of...
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
I remeber you telling me that, You got the 205's right? Next time try the 225's... and enjoy the extra traction
Like I said, I'd sport them, but I cant justify spending that much $$$ on a tire that I might get 8-10,000 Miles out of...
Like I said, I'd sport them, but I cant justify spending that much $$$ on a tire that I might get 8-10,000 Miles out of...
I can still get 225's....neither are hard to get so they weren't really 'odered' persay. I just don't want them to be too fat
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40BR
14 lbs.
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Enkei RPF1
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4-100
35mm or 41 mm offset
9.92 lbs.
$212
Racing Hart CP-035
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4-100
35mm/40mm offset
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Motegi Trak_Lite_2
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4-100
35mm
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$221.85
Motegi LC5
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35mm
weight unknown (trying to find it, supposedly ultra-light weight)
$208.80
these are all good looking rims to me. some of the prices are just higher than i hoped. prices are rough estimate though, just looked around quick.
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