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I'm spilling the beans...
Well, a couple people are on to me so I'm just going to spill it.
I'm changing my entire suspension... again.
Its not really from a racing standpoint, but more because it too rough to drive on these fabulous midwestern roads. So here goes... its kind of a hodgepodge, that I'm going to try to get it all to fit together the right way. I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this, without some of the parts in front of me, I don't know how it'll all fit together.
It'll be...
Koni Yellows
Ground Control Sleeves, 350 or 375 lb-in front, somewhere between 475 and 525 in the rear
Tein Camber Plates
Along with the 22mm sway bar I already have.
I've figured out that the swaybar won't break the endlinks, but the endlinks will rust up and sieze on me, which is probably just as good, so I bought 2 new Honda endlinks.
This is a little softer than I have now (400/560), but I think it'll help.
I need some information on Ground Controls if anyone has them. GC are being *******s and won't tell me anything I need to know. Most importantly, how the upper mount attaches to the strut. I take it you're supposed to re-use the stock upper hat when you do it, which I don't have much desire to do. At the worst, I'll machine my own upper mounts if I have to, but a commercial part would be easier... I just need to see what kind of centering feature is on the bottom of the camber plate (which I'm waiting to get). Also want to know the lengths of the springs that they come with, I have some extras already that I might be able to use.
Anyone want to complain about the spring rates? I think 375/500 is about right, I don't think OTS Konis can take much more than that as it is. I know I should be going stiffer, unfortunately I find it a little embarassing to have girls in the car getting slammed around. Need a little of both worlds, and I think softer fronts will net me more corner exit traction (the front was waaaaaaay too stiff last year with 500s in the front). Its open for suggestions, I'm still about 2-3 weeks away from buying most of this stuff.
I'm changing my entire suspension... again.
Its not really from a racing standpoint, but more because it too rough to drive on these fabulous midwestern roads. So here goes... its kind of a hodgepodge, that I'm going to try to get it all to fit together the right way. I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this, without some of the parts in front of me, I don't know how it'll all fit together.
It'll be...
Koni Yellows
Ground Control Sleeves, 350 or 375 lb-in front, somewhere between 475 and 525 in the rear
Tein Camber Plates
Along with the 22mm sway bar I already have.
I've figured out that the swaybar won't break the endlinks, but the endlinks will rust up and sieze on me, which is probably just as good, so I bought 2 new Honda endlinks.
This is a little softer than I have now (400/560), but I think it'll help.
I need some information on Ground Controls if anyone has them. GC are being *******s and won't tell me anything I need to know. Most importantly, how the upper mount attaches to the strut. I take it you're supposed to re-use the stock upper hat when you do it, which I don't have much desire to do. At the worst, I'll machine my own upper mounts if I have to, but a commercial part would be easier... I just need to see what kind of centering feature is on the bottom of the camber plate (which I'm waiting to get). Also want to know the lengths of the springs that they come with, I have some extras already that I might be able to use.
Anyone want to complain about the spring rates? I think 375/500 is about right, I don't think OTS Konis can take much more than that as it is. I know I should be going stiffer, unfortunately I find it a little embarassing to have girls in the car getting slammed around. Need a little of both worlds, and I think softer fronts will net me more corner exit traction (the front was waaaaaaay too stiff last year with 500s in the front). Its open for suggestions, I'm still about 2-3 weeks away from buying most of this stuff.
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Like this:
BTW, where are you getting your Tein Camber plates and will they fit with Stock Sized springs?
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BTW, where are you getting your Tein Camber plates and will they fit with Stock Sized springs?
Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Well, a couple people are on to me so I'm just going to spill it.
I'm changing my entire suspension... again.
Its not really from a racing standpoint, but more because it too rough to drive on these fabulous midwestern roads. So here goes... its kind of a hodgepodge, that I'm going to try to get it all to fit together the right way. I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this, without some of the parts in front of me, I don't know how it'll all fit together.
It'll be...
Koni Yellows
Ground Control Sleeves, 350 or 375 lb-in front, somewhere between 475 and 525 in the rear
Tein Camber Plates
Along with the 22mm sway bar I already have.
I've figured out that the swaybar won't break the endlinks, but the endlinks will rust up and sieze on me, which is probably just as good, so I bought 2 new Honda endlinks.
This is a little softer than I have now (400/560), but I think it'll help.
I need some information on Ground Controls if anyone has them. GC are being *******s and won't tell me anything I need to know. Most importantly, how the upper mount attaches to the strut. I take it you're supposed to re-use the stock upper hat when you do it, which I don't have much desire to do. At the worst, I'll machine my own upper mounts if I have to, but a commercial part would be easier... I just need to see what kind of centering feature is on the bottom of the camber plate (which I'm waiting to get). Also want to know the lengths of the springs that they come with, I have some extras already that I might be able to use.
Anyone want to complain about the spring rates? I think 375/500 is about right, I don't think OTS Konis can take much more than that as it is. I know I should be going stiffer, unfortunately I find it a little embarassing to have girls in the car getting slammed around. Need a little of both worlds, and I think softer fronts will net me more corner exit traction (the front was waaaaaaay too stiff last year with 500s in the front). Its open for suggestions, I'm still about 2-3 weeks away from buying most of this stuff.
I'm changing my entire suspension... again.
Its not really from a racing standpoint, but more because it too rough to drive on these fabulous midwestern roads. So here goes... its kind of a hodgepodge, that I'm going to try to get it all to fit together the right way. I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this, without some of the parts in front of me, I don't know how it'll all fit together.
It'll be...
Koni Yellows
Ground Control Sleeves, 350 or 375 lb-in front, somewhere between 475 and 525 in the rear
Tein Camber Plates
Along with the 22mm sway bar I already have.
I've figured out that the swaybar won't break the endlinks, but the endlinks will rust up and sieze on me, which is probably just as good, so I bought 2 new Honda endlinks.
This is a little softer than I have now (400/560), but I think it'll help.
I need some information on Ground Controls if anyone has them. GC are being *******s and won't tell me anything I need to know. Most importantly, how the upper mount attaches to the strut. I take it you're supposed to re-use the stock upper hat when you do it, which I don't have much desire to do. At the worst, I'll machine my own upper mounts if I have to, but a commercial part would be easier... I just need to see what kind of centering feature is on the bottom of the camber plate (which I'm waiting to get). Also want to know the lengths of the springs that they come with, I have some extras already that I might be able to use.
Anyone want to complain about the spring rates? I think 375/500 is about right, I don't think OTS Konis can take much more than that as it is. I know I should be going stiffer, unfortunately I find it a little embarassing to have girls in the car getting slammed around. Need a little of both worlds, and I think softer fronts will net me more corner exit traction (the front was waaaaaaay too stiff last year with 500s in the front). Its open for suggestions, I'm still about 2-3 weeks away from buying most of this stuff.
but i think ur right about the front spring rate, the 400 is a bit too high for me too
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lol j/k
I hear ya about the women bro...my g/f HATES riding with me and my Buddy Clubs. lol "I need a damn SPORTS BRA to ride with you!" -Molly
But as far as your plans....
Sounds like a winnin' set-up to me! I loved my Koni's. They're tougher than you think they are, and with the right tools....SAWZALL, lol....the install is a breeze.
Good luck, let us know how that treats ya!
lol j/k
I hear ya about the women bro...my g/f HATES riding with me and my Buddy Clubs. lol "I need a damn SPORTS BRA to ride with you!" -Molly
But as far as your plans....
Sounds like a winnin' set-up to me! I loved my Koni's. They're tougher than you think they are, and with the right tools....SAWZALL, lol....the install is a breeze.
Good luck, let us know how that treats ya!
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BTW, where are you getting your Tein Camber plates and will they fit with Stock Sized springs?
Stand by for a perfectly good set of JIC FLT-A2s to hit the market....
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
I bought the only set that Tein had in the United States
lol j/k
I'm curious to know if they work too...HURRY UP DAMN'T
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
I'm doing 2 koni installs simultaneously. One with GCs, the other with Eibach Pro-kits, we'll test fit the camber plates and I'll tell you if they'll work. They're only $200 so its a steal if they work. I need to get the plates in my hands and see what the bottom surface of them look like.
Stand by for a perfectly good set of JIC FLT-A2s to hit the market....
Stand by for a perfectly good set of JIC FLT-A2s to hit the market....
When did you become Mr $$$$?
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interesting ... the endlinks rust and seize on you? ... are you referring to grey's endlinks or the honda ones ?
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Honda ones. Given that they rusted up and the ball joints are covered with rubber boots, I can't see Grey's unprotected ones holding up well either.
Grey's DO hold up MUCH better.
He's sold a TON of sets..and I've never heard one complaint.
I have them too...and I LOVE them.
I think Zzyzx has 'em too...dunno
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