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2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

My 2001EX auto has 127K. I had the timing belt replaced (not at Honda dealer, my bad!) at 105k in Dec 2012, then 6 months ago it failed at 127K while trying to start it one morning. I don't know if the engine started, or if the belt came off before it started, but the engine spins quickly without compression when you hit the starter. Car is still sitting in driveway. I did detect some noise in the head the day before, like it jumped time or something.
Question: are there clear, concise step by step instructions on how to remove the head on this site? I mean clear instructions with what peripheral components to remove and in what order, etc? I may try to fix it myself.
Also, I am assuming a Honda OEM head gasket is the best choice? I would buy OEM Honda timing belt kit as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Remove the valve cover and take a look at the belt. Are you taking the head off to fix possible bent valves?

The tensioner may have failed, was that replaced with the belt?

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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

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Remove the valve cover and take a look at the belt. Are you taking the head off to fix possible bent valves?

The tensioner may have failed, was that replaced with the belt?
Supposedly everything was replaced. Spent over 800 on the job. Thanks.
I assume valves are bent...
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

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the engine spins quickly without compression when you hit the starter
that is a sign of open valves, when they should not be open

odds are something is wrong with the timing, timing belt snapped, timing belt damaged, timing belt jumped teeth, etc etc
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Install new timing belt and tensioner if needed. After that check the compression. If low or different then take off the head replace the bent valves. Autozone head gasket is fine.

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My 2001EX auto has 127K. I had the timing belt replaced (not at Honda dealer, my bad!) at 105k in Dec 2012, then 6 months ago it failed at 127K while trying to start it one morning. I don't know if the engine started, or if the belt came off before it started, but the engine spins quickly without compression when you hit the starter. Car is still sitting in driveway. I did detect some noise in the head the day before, like it jumped time or something.
Question: are there clear, concise step by step instructions on how to remove the head on this site? I mean clear instructions with what peripheral components to remove and in what order, etc? I may try to fix it myself.
Also, I am assuming a Honda OEM head gasket is the best choice? I would buy OEM Honda timing belt kit as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Rockauto.com has the cheapest valves and they are good.
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My 2001EX auto has 127K. I had the timing belt replaced (not at Honda dealer, my bad!) at 105k in Dec 2012, then 6 months ago it failed at 127K while trying to start it one morning. I don't know if the engine started, or if the belt came off before it started, but the engine spins quickly without compression when you hit the starter. Car is still sitting in driveway. I did detect some noise in the head the day before, like it jumped time or something.
Question: are there clear, concise step by step instructions on how to remove the head on this site? I mean clear instructions with what peripheral components to remove and in what order, etc? I may try to fix it myself.
Also, I am assuming a Honda OEM head gasket is the best choice? I would buy OEM Honda timing belt kit as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Not sure of how much garage mechanics you have had. Even with a Honda service manual and all Honda OEM part (which by the way is the only way to go) this is a very complicated job. Especially with bent valves. More then likely, someone failed to do something correct and I assumed they were a mechanic.. Bite the bullet, tow it to a Honda dealer and get an estimate. At most, you are going to be out a few hundred. Bet at 15 years old, the car is junk now except to someone who can do their own work.
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...-belt-diy.html
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

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My 2001EX auto has 127K. I had the timing belt replaced (not at Honda dealer, my bad!) at 105k in Dec 2012, then 6 months ago it failed at 127K while trying to start it one morning. I don't know if the engine started, or if the belt came off before it started, but the engine spins quickly without compression when you hit the starter. Car is still sitting in driveway. I did detect some noise in the head the day before, like it jumped time or something.
Question: are there clear, concise step by step instructions on how to remove the head on this site? I mean clear instructions with what peripheral components to remove and in what order, etc? I may try to fix it myself.
Also, I am assuming a Honda OEM head gasket is the best choice? I would buy OEM Honda timing belt kit as well. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
also check Youtube

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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

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all Honda OEM part
I agree. At least for the gaskets, belts and tensioner. Valves I would go OEM or aftermarket but with something like crower.

I never liked Rock Auto.


At most, you are going to be out a few hundred.
If he needs a new head he is looking at more like $1500. That's how much it cost me when my tensioner failed.
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

If you find out that the tensioner was the problem replace also the tensioner bolt with 1/4" longer bolt.
There is a space.
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

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If you find out that the tensioner was the problem replace also the tensioner bolt with 1/4" longer bolt.
There is a space.
Why?

isnt Locktite good enough?
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Thanks again for all your comments and links, they're much appreciated.
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Why would you use locktite if you have space for longer bolt?
I would say put longer bolt and use locktite.
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Re: 2001 EX Head Repair Question - Timing Belt Failed Starting

Originally Posted by GolNat
I agree. At least for the gaskets, belts and tensioner. Valves I would go OEM or aftermarket but with something like crower.

I never liked Rock Auto.




If he needs a new head he is looking at more like $1500. That's how much it cost me when my tensioner failed.
The $200 I was referring to was for the tow and estimate. If he can get fixed what is broken now for $1500 from a Honda dealer, he will be one lucky person. However, it problem would be correct.
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