pp0225

Hi again~! Today I did a few things in my car to see if it helps my 1st gear starting problem. Oil change with royal purple 5w20, ngk iridium plugs and air filter, didnt feel like to clean the throttle body (lazy). After that the problem still there, vibration at 1st gear get worst if I carry more people. I ordered the ES insert today, let see will that solve my problem .

jponto07

How many miles?

MelJ

Is it slipping during acceleration in other gears? Does the car shake or "chatter" during launching? A little more info would help. Mileage is not neccessarily an indicator of clutch condition, although it could help some. I've seen them last for 200k+ and seen them burnt out in 10k.

pp0225

it is 79000 miles, and it doesnt slip in other gears, when i am launching, leting go the cluch, my car feels like going to stall or vibrate... Put half can seafoam into the brake booster today, didnt help ... I know it has nothing to do with the seafoam anyways...........

BlueEM2

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Hmmmmmmmmm..... Check your front motor mount.

ashokudu

does it chatter only in first gear or anytime it is under load?

sdaidoji

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your clutch seems fine, maybe engine

pp0225

it only chatter only letting cluch go at 1st gear...sorry guys, just wondering how you determine a bad motor mount?

sdaidoji

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they are torn - visual inspection. engine will move more than usual. mine it clucnked when passing in bumps, or sometimes during acceleration. whole assembly moves and hit the walls.
But you have a stalling, it means clutch getting through and holding the engine down

pp0225

so is it usually the front one? thank you dude

MelJ

Damn. I thought when mine went they were really bad.
Yeah man. Check your mounts. They're often overlooked and not replaced when they should be. If it turns out to be your mounts, Advance Auto sells some pretty sturdy one. I don't know how the bolts are for the 7th gen, but mine are in the goddamn frame. I broke one off and my driver's side mount is still there until I give a damn to actually pay to replace it.

BlueEM2

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The mount is REAL easy to change... Just make sure you properly support the engine when you do it (A jack and a piece of wood under the oil pan, make sure you use wood otherwise the jack CAN and WILL put a hole in your oilpan). The front motor mount is the weakest on 7th gens... and is generally the only one that blows.. If it is torn, you can order a poly mount from energy suspension or you can just buy poly from a store and fill the mount with it (There are a couple DIYs on this forum). I'd start there because its a super cheap fix and its more likely than not torn on your car anyway. Oh yes, if you do decide to go the poly way you will experience more shake than you did with your OEM mount, but its definitely tolerable.

BlueEM2

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Oh yea DONT use seafoam people... I don't care how many enthusiasts say its awesome that **** just aint right.

2005civiclx

Thank you. that stuff cant really mess up your car and there are safer products out there that should be used instead.

sdaidoji

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bu8t remember, this is an internet diagnosys - it's as good as your description of the problem

pp0225

Thanks man, I actually look at the mount today, front mount seems fine to me, just a bit rust around it ( not sure how to tell is it torn or not...). I search around the forum again, all people said the front one is pretty easy to change, but I cant find any write up with photos... just wondering do you have any link that provide write up? please~~~~

pp0225

front motor mount seems fine, what could happen to my car?

sdaidoji

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do the normal stuff, change air filters, oil, spark plugs, etc if they are due.
if that does not help, go through these.
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...e-up-mods.html
if that does not help, check the other 2 motor mounts.
at the least, engine will run happier after all that.
Come back if it still seems strange, but i place bets the engine is not running at its peak, so no power enough when you engage clutch and it will simply try to stop for lack of power (like when you are reeealy hungry and not enough energy to even walk).

sdaidoji

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hunh.
From your descriptions and all...
do you actually feel that you car have been loosing power? If not, it could actually be clutch, maybe.
All depends on your description, or have someone else more knowleadgeable drive the car, a friend maybe. It's confusing right now.

BlueEM2

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Yea this stuff is impossible to diagnose over the internet because we can't actually feel and see what the car is doing. However, we can tell you of the common fails that may cause something similar to your description (Front motor mount was one). The manual transmissions on these cars are pretty good so it's probably not that. Change your transmission fluid and see if it helps. It could be time for a professional diagonsis if you can't find the problem yourself. Clean your throttle body as well, it could be the engine starving for air.