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Well it has been about the longest winter ever and I could not have been more excited to get back out on the autox course, maybe a bit to excited. My new setup was beyond what I could have anticipated and I finally now feel like the car is a competative SM car (atleast at the local level events). A bit of background on my setup for those who don't know:
Suspension
-Tein Basic dampers (yes I said the basics, I have had the means and oppoitunity to change these for a while, but honestly I could not really ask for anything better, they have made it through 4 years of insane abuse and are still great)
-front and rear ingalls camber kit
-H&R 22mm rear sway
-factory front sway bar (04 ex)
-Nuespeed front strut tower bar
- -2.1 camber front, -1.1 camber rear, .16 total toe out front, .04 total toe in rear
Stopping power
-Hawk HPS pads
-Goodridge stainless lines
-ATE super blue fluid
-rear drum to disc conversion
All and all the differential made the car a COMPLETELY new car. It is really insane the difference, you can really just put power down at almost any point throughout at turn. Hands down one of the best mods for autox EVER, right up there with the race rubber. Today I did not do the car much justice and over drove it not paying attention to the line and driving way to aggressive, and ended up in placing fourth, but not nearly as well as I could have done.
Anyway just thought some would like to see that a 7thgen civic CAN be setup as a good SM car. My next additions will be harnesses, seats, and a harness bar. I am investing in atleast one nice harness before the next event, because on my fastest run I was throwing my self around so much that I knocked my car out of gear
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__________________ 2006 GPW S2k-current toy
2004 NHB EM2 w/K20a2-sold
2001 EM2-Wife's car
1991 Accord coupe 5spd- My daily
Last edited by EMK20a2; 04-21-2008 at 09:40 PM.
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Harness bar? with all the hp you have, a roll bar might be better!
Still thinking in terms of weight, I think that the only way to have a harness bar with a roll bar is to have it custom made. I am going to be doing more track days, so I have thought about a custom cage, we will see.
__________________ 2006 GPW S2k-current toy
2004 NHB EM2 w/K20a2-sold
2001 EM2-Wife's car
1991 Accord coupe 5spd- My daily
Autocross: Because Life is more fun on three wheels......
"I know Solo only comes one minute at a time, but what an intense, non-stop, fast-forward car control exercise minute it is. Sure, the velocity is higher in road racing, but inside the car it is slow-motion in comparison. In Solo, the turns come like machine-gun rounds. "
Randy Pobst
It would seem you could get that car lighter than that. My 01 EM2 coupe weighed in at 2460 in race trim at SCCA Nat's last year and now my new 04 EM2 weighed in at the Dixie National Tour weigh in at 2482. I haven't doen any lightening of the car other than shaved 44lbs off in wheels, 31lbs in exhaust, and stripped the trunk of the spare tire. Keep in mind, that I was running 1/4 tank fuel in the car both weigh-in times.
How may I ask did you get -2.1 camber in the front. Camber Bolts? If so, which ones did you use?
__________________ D. Scott B.
04 Civic EX Coupe Rallye Red
409West Speedsports
DATS Racing
Hankook Motorsports
Towery Motorsports
Life is not a straight line, it is a series of turns. How you negotiate them determines in what place you finish!--My Father
Inglles camber bolts, I could have even went more. My car is heavier because of the K20a2 engine, it weights around 80-100lbs more. That 2500lbs was weighted at a Prosolo. The only really major things I can do are instal seats and start replacing things with carbon.
__________________ 2006 GPW S2k-current toy
2004 NHB EM2 w/K20a2-sold
2001 EM2-Wife's car
1991 Accord coupe 5spd- My daily
here is a pic from the event, not to good for showing the actual speed . I was actually going about 45-50 around a decreasing radius corner into the finish:
__________________ 2006 GPW S2k-current toy
2004 NHB EM2 w/K20a2-sold
2001 EM2-Wife's car
1991 Accord coupe 5spd- My daily
very nice! . my buddy has about the same exact set up as you except he has a ek hatch. its a beast.. his car wieghs in at 2190. stripped to the metal with all carbon stuff. even drilled big holes everywhere to cut down on weight.
how much does the stock em2/es2 weigh? i looked on wikepedia and it says 2400 for es2? doesnt sound right after hearing your car is 2500~ bump for a sick car
very nice! . my buddy has about the same exact set up as you except he has a ek hatch. its a beast.. his car wieghs in at 2190. stripped to the metal with all carbon stuff. even drilled big holes everywhere to cut down on weight.
how much does the stock em2/es2 weigh? i looked on wikepedia and it says 2400 for es2? doesnt sound right after hearing your car is 2500~ bump for a sick car
Just to update, this setup is doing pretty well, I have captured a couple of second place finishes and have been really close to ALL of the faster cars on most occassions. This seems to be a really good setup even with the Tein Basics. I honestly could not ask for the car to handle better, I take some sweepers by working the throttle off and on to create a off throttle oversteer or I can trail brake to create the same results on corners that are better suited for this. Bottom line is I have more control with the brake and gass petal than I could ever ask for. I have added a harness and harness bar, both of which are a MUST, next step is race seats to shave weight and add comfort/ease of driving. I may change the suspension, but man if it gets better the car will be WAY beyond what I can drive it.
__________________ 2006 GPW S2k-current toy
2004 NHB EM2 w/K20a2-sold
2001 EM2-Wife's car
1991 Accord coupe 5spd- My daily
, I have had the means and oppoitunity to change these for a while, but honestly I could not really ask for anything better, they have made it through 4 years of insane abuse and are still great)
. I was actually going about 45-50 around a decreasing radius corner into the finish:
. my buddy has about the same exact set up as you except he has a ek hatch. its a beast.. his car wieghs in at 2190. stripped to the metal with all carbon stuff. even drilled big holes everywhere to cut down on weight.
hmmm thanks for that info. the sedan probably weighs a little more then huh? 
