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DriftR 11-13-2006 09:43 PM

Tuned Emanage Map For All
 
Those who run,

T25
D17A1
310CC injectors
2" turboback exhaust, high flow cat
2" intake piping


can use my settings to start. I was having problems with power at first, but it was all due to the fuzzy logic programming in my HKS EVC that was set for a supra. Car has been tuned at temperatures ranging from 30-45 deg F. Now the cars run well, thanks to many with helpful advice and so on.

Idle is at AFR 14.1 AVG
On closed loop operation, AFR is 14.6 AVG
On WOT open loop operation AFR is 12.5 AVG at all pressures from 3-12 psi
Best part: NO CEL's

With this, i have beaten a Type-s and a WRX ('03) at 8psi. No knock, at 94octane.


http://www.uploadwiz.com/WIZ495608209.gif
http://www.uploadwiz.com/WIZ1018658503.gif
http://www.uploadwiz.com/WIZ683040117.gif
http://www.uploadwiz.com/WIZ1284291972.gif

ronaldo9 11-13-2006 09:46 PM

Wow you are generous for posting your map. You using the tsi kit?

DriftR 11-13-2006 09:55 PM

No, custom kit. I fab'ed the DP, IC piping, vac manifold etc (since I work in an engineering firm, I get access to free metal and machines :). Similar to Tnaff's setup w/o the fuel kit.

And no, I'm not generous, I think everyone should post their maps. Although I didn't pay to get it tuned by some knucklehead, I still woulda posted it even if I did cuz I would have already spent the money regardless. Why not help someone out, right?

ronaldo9 11-13-2006 09:57 PM

Can you post pics of your kit I'm really interested in your setup. You get dyno tuned at all?

DriftR 11-13-2006 10:03 PM

No dyno tune. Not necessary. I don't car exactly how much power i'm running. I know what I beat, and what I don't. I have a UEGO which tells me that I'm running well or not. Thats good enough. The HP-TQ curve means nothing to me whatsoever. As for pics, look at tnaffs, it's similar. Except I got this COOL silicone elbow to make the intake pipe at the TB really nice.
It's a 90deg elbow that reduces from 2.5" to 2.0". Without that, I'm sure as TNAFF probably could tell ya, is a pain in the royal ass to get clean and right.

tfnaaf 11-13-2006 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by DriftR (Post 4084256)
No dyno tune. Not necessary. I don't car exactly how much power i'm running. I know what I beat, and what I don't. I have a UEGO which tells me that I'm running well or not. Thats good enough. The HP-TQ curve means nothing to me whatsoever. As for pics, look at tnaffs, it's similar. Except I got this COOL silicone elbow to make the intake pipe at the TB really nice.
It's a 90deg elbow that reduces from 2.5" to 2.0". Without that, I'm sure as TNAFF probably could tell ya, is a pain in the royal ass to get clean and right.

Heh, glad you got it all worked out! BTW its tfnaaf ;) not tnaff :) Post some pictures up if you got them!

Logan3024 11-13-2006 11:10 PM

http://www.uploadwiz.com/VIEWIMG683040117

Glad to see you got it right, when people like dezod throw out crazy clamp numbers like 3.5 4 4.5 or even 5 :shake: (ex, http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...ight=map+clamp)



Originally Posted by dezod (Post 4000118)
I ran with 5V and never had one problem on my 7thgen. :shrug:

Also, 2.93V leaves too much partial throttle to tune fuel for boost and regular driving. Nice way to max out the injectors quick.

Your running 12 psi with a 12.5 afr, guess that kills this theory!

Other than that looks like your running a little rich at idle, I would drop the injection correction to 240/310, that should lean it out a little, Id say thats a pretty good base map :tup: :tup:

boosted.es2 11-14-2006 12:38 AM

very nice, i was looknig for something like this. +1 ! :D

DriftR 11-14-2006 11:19 AM

I'm not running 12 psi. I tested it at every psi from 3-12 psi in case I get boost spikes and creep. It's set for .5 bar (7psi)...but in case the pressure ever goes higher than that, it's good to know you have the right AFR during unintentional(or not) overboosting.

AzNmiKex215 11-14-2006 11:51 AM

possibly a dumb question, but would this map work for an auto transmission too? I assuming it does.

eye_see_you 11-14-2006 12:06 PM

you may have beaten a rsx but it must have been stock because a boosted rsx on 5-8 psi easily holds 350 hp but thats a nice setup for emanage though

dezod 11-14-2006 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Logan3024 (Post 4084310)
http://www.uploadwiz.com/VIEWIMG683040117

Glad to see you got it right, when people like dezod throw out crazy clamp numbers like 3.5 4 4.5 or even 5 :shake: (ex, http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...ight=map+clamp)



Your running 12 psi with a 12.5 afr, guess that kills this theory!

Other than that looks like your running a little rich at idle, I would drop the injection correction to 240/310, that should lean it out a little, Id say thats a pretty good base map :tup: :tup:

:rofl: at this guy's comments.

I have done it, and numerous others have without the clamp at all. 8.5 PSI on my 7thgen ALL DAY with no limp mode. Maybe there is some ECU variation. I was an 01 EX. Maybe the 01-02s have different ECU thresholds.

Anyway, the reason why he has the correction set like that is to prevent the MAP/BARO sensor CEL that comes from too much injector correction margin on the e-manage. The stock ECU only allows so much variation in the input to output......I suppose you knew this already and was just testing me again Logan. ;)

To the original poster. Looks pretty good from a quick glance. Have fun!

tfnaaf 11-14-2006 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by dezod (Post 4084691)
:rofl: at this guy's comments.

I have done it, and numerous others have without the clamp at all. 8.5 PSI on my 7thgen ALL DAY with no limp mode. Maybe there is some ECU variation. I was an 01 EX. Maybe the 01-02s have different ECU thresholds.

Anyway, the reason why he has the correction set like that is to prevent the MAP/BARO sensor CEL that comes from too much injector correction margin on the e-manage. The stock ECU only allows so much variation in the input to output......I suppose you knew this already and was just testing me again Logan. ;)

To the original poster. Looks pretty good from a quick glance. Have fun!


Im running the 5v clamp on mine too, with no issues what so ever

Logan3024 11-15-2006 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by dezod (Post 4084691)
:rofl: at this guy's comments.

I have done it, and numerous others have without the clamp at all. 8.5 PSI on my 7thgen ALL DAY with no limp mode. Maybe there is some ECU variation. I was an 01 EX. Maybe the 01-02s have different ECU thresholds.

Anyway, the reason why he has the correction set like that is to prevent the MAP/BARO sensor CEL that comes from too much injector correction margin on the e-manage. The stock ECU only allows so much variation in the input to output......I suppose you knew this already and was just testing me again Logan. ;)

To the original poster. Looks pretty good from a quick glance. Have fun!

Testing you again? :_please::shake: Try running 12lbs+ and watch how fast the map sensor code pops up with a 5v clamp ;)

TheSmuggler 11-15-2006 12:39 PM

^On a side note, that custom user title is hilarious

dezod 11-15-2006 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Logan3024 (Post 4085139)
Testing you again? :_please::shake: Try running 12lbs+ and watch how fast the map sensor code pops up with a 5v clamp ;)

How can you expect it not to throw a limp mode code at that pressure?!?!? I was amazed that the thing did not on 8.5-9 PSI on a T3 S60. Besides, PSI is a generic form of measurement. It's all about CFM of the turbo. :cool:

dezod 11-15-2006 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by TheSmuggler (Post 4085164)
^On a side note, that custom user title is hilarious

Where have you been stranger?

TheSmuggler 11-15-2006 12:46 PM

Eh, you don't even want to know... I'm slowly watching this place fall apart.

dezod 11-15-2006 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by TheSmuggler (Post 4085168)
Eh, you don't even want to know... I'm slowly watching this place fall apart.

Hmmmmmmm

Elaborate in PM. :)

BoostedVik 11-26-2006 11:53 PM

i cant see those files, a pages opens up displaying a file could not be found!

DriftR 12-02-2006 06:09 PM

yeah they were taken off cuz they were too old. I'll post an updated one later once I finished a treat for you guys. I think a lot of people wanna do their own pipe runs, so I did one up in solid modeling and everyone can download them and copy the specs.

Boost_Junkie 12-08-2006 02:11 PM

update?

xproductionz 12-09-2006 10:56 AM

hey.. i created a section dedicated to maps for all of the engine management computers. If you want post up your tuned map in there

kronickz 12-13-2006 10:07 AM

are 310cc injectors stock injectors?

bOoStEd042dr 12-13-2006 10:15 AM

^^^^they're stock rsx type-s injectors.....we have 240cc in our d17's

Boost_Junkie 12-13-2006 05:53 PM

update damnit!

CrewChief 04-15-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Tuned Emanage Map For All
 
did anyone save these? could you please send them to me. I went to check them out and they have been removed. Any help would be great

dezod 04-15-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Tuned Emanage Map For All
 

Originally Posted by CrewChief (Post 4175114)
did anyone save these? could you please send them to me. I went to check them out and they have been removed. Any help would be great

Dork! Cheange your sig and support the people who support you! BTW, call me. I told Jeff to tell you to call me this weekend. I have help for j00!

civ_nate 04-21-2007 02:33 AM

Re: Tuned Emanage Map For All
 
anyone have a basemap for emanage blue on a d17 non-vtec @ 8psi? stock internals?


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