Turbo and Nitrous on stock internals
 

has anyone in this site have ever tried turbo'ing your car and squeezing nitrous.
im currently squeezing 80 shot but I want to get turbo since its like 2 grand thought it was roughly 3.5 grand but used ones are 2.
Im thinking of running around 8 psi with stock internals and lowering my nitrous shot to 40 which is lowest mine goes because of limited supply of jet sizes.
im not familiar with turbo although i know some stuff, i could probably maintain my nitrous better than my turbo (if I get it)
my friend had turbo and nitrous on his teg and he told me he blew his motor quite often. this guy had money so he still went on with it now he has a fixed up supra and dont need turbo and nos to be fast.
anyways, i made up my mind and going turbo realllllllll soon. should i sell my nitrous kit or use it in conjunction with my turbo? i think turbo will be enough but for those occassions that you see a sick ass car to race, i might spray. i just want to know from other people if turbo/nos on completely stock internals will last?
thanks for any advice in advance.

forgot to add, i want a turbo kit cause nos is cheap power and sometimes scary shit. ive been lucky to go about 10 bottle fill-ups with no problems. i dont want a bottle full of pressure everywhere i go so that is why im going turbo real soon.

First off turbo is NOT 2k. You'd be lucky to find a kit for 2K. You need to get fuel management aka VAFC-Emanage...Tuning, Install....Turbo run you AT LEAST 4K all together. N I wouldn't spray Nitrous if your turbo, you'll blow your engine to hell, and then some.

that was just funny. People say no more than 8psi on stock motor, now you want to run that and spray. I would get alchy injection or something other than nitrous to get a little more out of a turbo. And yeah, even with a complete kit, expect to pay at least 5-6000. I got the TSI Extreme Kit for 2600 shipped, and have spent over 5000 easily.

oh yeah, you can use the nitrous to spool up the turbo. but thats about it.

N2O also cools the intake charge and helps reduce the chance of detonation. So spraying and turbo at a modest level is a good idea. Maybe a 30hp spray, and 5-6psi boost?

that would be more acceptable. I wouldnt boost 8 lbs. Maybe 5 psi, and 30 shot? That would be better. Good idea. My clutch slips at 8lbs anyways. Im getting an exedy organic next week though. That will be nice with a resurfaced flywheel :rockon:

Turbo + nitrous only for racing application.
If you want to do it on an everyday car and with stock internals you will have cathastrophic reasuls time and time again.

Nitrous may cool your intake charge but double the heat on the exhaust, superheating your turbo intake.

Is best to spray the nitrous on the intercooler for better results.

hmm, thats what i was t hinking of getting one of those intercooler sprayers but id rather spray into the engine.
maybe i should try running low boost first and see how that goes.
btw, i can ge a complete kit for 2 grand and my friend could help me install it because he has a shop. so basically its 2 grand for me. ive found at least 3-4 people trying to sell me for 2- 2500

i sold my kit for close to $2000. It came with alcohol injection, 2 turbos, 3" downpipe, intercooler, engine management, and a lot more. I know for a fact he can get a used kit that cheap if not cheaper.

I would say go for it. You wont ever know until you do it. I was going to try it until i broke a ring in my motor by simply running too much boost. Now i have a sleeved motor with pistons, rods, and a plethora of other parts. And i am going to squeeze this one with boost. But as longas you dont go too extreme, it should work out. Just run a small shot with relatively low boost, with some good gas (like C10).

do it . 80 shot pluss turbo and be sure to post the video

im thinking 40 shot here. im not running 80 with the turbo. i still think 40 shot is overdoing it on stock internals.

how much boost were you running that your ring got damaged? I dont want to buy a turbo kit and have problems like that. Im trying to run low boost max of 8 psi. will that be ok for stock internals?

:rockon: 18-20 psi.

Just seeing if it would do it. And it did, just not for very long. :giggle:

DAMN! I wouldnt do that. maybe 10 max

Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We learn from you mistakes! :tup: Thank you

I wouldn't do it ...

that one guy on here blew up his filter and intake manifold with just 75 shot. I'm surprised your 80 shot is working ok

doesnt backfiring help the IM to blow?

My car backfires like hell when I stop to an idle after boosting. Its very very very quiet backfiring too.

on a stock d17a2 we have managed 15 psi on stock internals from a turbo no nitro at all. Thats for short periods. Otherwise 12psi is the recommended max on a daily driver of stock internals .

I;ve ran a 50hp shot all summer... my buddy ran a 75 hp shot for 2 years on his 01 lx. No problems for either of us. Has anybody had nitrous problems with their rides?

Alluponu has turbo and nitrious. The car is not a daily driver and currently going thru building up the internals. The last time I stopped by Legend Motorsports thats what I was told. Like Gabe said it helps in spooling.

baby steps man.
I was on the bottle for two years, now I'm turbo on full internals for 6 months.
My friendly suggestion to you is:
turbo it first, get your fuel system up to par then your cooling system, radiator, oil cooler, then, get it running right before you thinking on sparying at all.
You'll find out that is more to it that what it seems or other ppl tell you.

Other wise do it any way and make sure you have another car and plenty of $$ cause you'll need it.
Oh, and take plenty of pictures.

I have a question. Will my turbonator work with the nitros kit on ebay with the little cartridges?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

well you guys have several things misxed up..

1. any motor can take anything you through at it, until one thing happens, detonation...
which is why someone might tell a story about a d17 taking 4psi and blowing vs someone else running 12 daily.... its on the tune, the better the tune, the more you can throw at it...

2. running nitrous on a n/a motor is jsut that... saying a 50 shot is just a 50 shot.
nitrous cools air drastically and contains more oxygen per cubic foot than atmosphere air.... so when you turbo a car... say you have your car maked at ( tuned for 7.5psi ruffy 1/2 bar) with turbo...
your car is tuned for 7lbs of forced air of a certain temp and a certain quiality...
when you use nitrous, becasue its forced air and that the nitrous is cooling the air much more than the intercooler would be its actually acting like a bigger shot at boost... ex. you run a 50 shot at all motor. your going to get stock + 50 hp..
boosted at 7lbs say nets you 200 then a 50 shot... its going to act like more than 250...
so be careful.

but remember, the better the tune, the more boost you can run regardless of internals...

just better the internals the more "error" they can take...