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RSX Injectors were flow-tested at 340CCs...

Mine didnt start to freak out until a little over 9psi. So we left it at 8 till i could get my hands on one.

I shoudl have some commin in sometime today. IF UPS doesn't FRUCK up again.

Are you sure? :susp:


I'll have to look up my sheets from when I got them flow tested.

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Didn't Opto get them flow-tested at that? Or maybe it was 320cc?

340cc's @ 45 PSI.....

Where did you have them tested Opto?

I had mine cleaned & Flow tested at Cruzin Performance for like $56 Shipped, these were my results:

http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid...ting_1-med.jpg
http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid...ting_2-med.jpg

To convert from lb/hr to cc/min, simply multiply the lb/hr by 10.5.

So for mine the average was 31.39 * 10.5 = 329cc

But Opto got 340cc? What would the difference be?

If you are going to be adjusting the fuel pressure, you can use the following formula to calculate the approximate fuel flow when adjusting the fuel pressure up or down:

new flow rate = (rated flow) * square root of(new fuel pressure/rated fuel
pressure)

Here are my results

That seems to be about 323cc on average then. Seems to be differences, or is it in the way they were tested?

It would be safe to say they are 320CC injectors. Error margin is in the users favor if more.

But mine were closer to 330, and Opto's seem to be closer to 340 I think?

Yours may have had less mileage and such.....Anyway, OPTO's are a different story, his were flow tested at 340 @ 45 PSI, yours and mine were only done at 43.5 PSI.

Ours are a closer comparison because Ibid Ereubus (Sure I butchered the spelling).

so was there finally a solution? is it still throwing the cel?

Read the Honda-Tech E-Manage Hack. Thats what is causing it.

So you got it working and no cel and the injectors in and running fine?

yes sir. I had another CEL, but it had nothing at all to do with the injectors. It was a delayed O2 sensor reading because we relocated one of the sensors to use a wideband for tuning purposes. I just put it back to where it was prior.

So Dezod is this the correct fix for using RSX Injectors & E-manage to get normal idle, and not the CEL, before tuning of course:

http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid...ge_Fix-med.jpg


With the Injector correction feature not being used.

For the most part, yes. I'd also recommend putting the same in cells for 1000 rpm & 1500 rpm for uber cold starts

What about the 100rpm, should that be included too? What is Uber?

Rpm Scale-> 0 100 1000 1500 2000 2500, etc

or

Rpm Scale-> 0 500 1000 1500 2000 2500, etc?

uber means very :rofl:


yes, 1000 rpms @ the same 2 throttle position points there as 0% throttle.

Bear with me here, so perhaps like this:http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid..._Fix_2-med.jpg

Or would this one be more appropriate to match better with the other maps, or are they the same?

http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid..._Fix_3-med.jpg

Do they both represent 42% additional air between 0-3% throttle position and 0-1999 rpm?

Or is the rpm transition more linear by adjusting between 1500 and 2000? Example @ 1750 rpm it would be either 42% or 21% depending how e-manage averages it, my guess is that it would be 21% for smoother transitions between different values on the map.

have u even got a base map at all so far, i didnt read all this, anyways, get a base map, and then drive it, and then while driving the screen will blink yellow everywhere, when u hit a snag, fix and drive again, snag fix, so on and so forth, im going to try and get my base 5 psi map, i dont know how long it will take, u might already be done by the time i get it

He's right . Use the real time data display and drive & data record the air flow meter input & output with RPM & TPS on the same graph. Those signals should be near identical. He is referring to realtime map trace too. Excellent function on this unit.

Sorry, I have no basemap yet, but if I do manage to get one I will do just that, it sounds like a good way to tune before getting it to the dyno for fine tuning.

Wait - don't put 42 in any number higher than 100 RPM (500 at MOST). The ECU is just looking for what the MAP and Baro sensor are on STARTUP - if you start to add a butt-load more fuel past 500 RPM you're car isnt' going to like it (when you increase that # - it increases the MAP voltage, which in turn adds more duty cycle to your already big RSX injectors).

So this should be the correct way?

http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid..._Fix_4-med.jpg

damn, this is a good thread.........maybe a sticky :sweet:

Yes - but, in the "0" RPM column put 42 all the way down. That way if some yahoo decides to press the gas while attempting to start the car it will still work.