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Michalo187 11-23-2004 05:30 PM

Civic vs Focus Zx3
 
Who would win both being manual the civic not being v tec just the lx both 2001? Has any one raced a Focus Zx3 Hatchback? are they fast at all?

CuRiOuSfIsH 11-23-2004 05:32 PM

if equal drivers, u might lose..... any modifications?

Michalo187 11-23-2004 05:43 PM

well actually i got a lot of shit and he has exhaust i have the Aem pulleys the Aem v2 intake, custom exhaust with dual outlets obx headers Venom control module 400 and wanna get the cam gear but my car is crashed gonna take 2 months to fix and i think he has Hks exhaust cat back

Blainestang 11-23-2004 06:02 PM

What engine does he have? What year is it?

2.3L PZEV I4
145hp
~150tq

2.0L ZETEC I4
130hp
135tq

Either way, I'd say he has the advantage stock. Even with the mods, if it's the PZEV, I'd say you're in trouble assuming equal driver's, but I think you'd have a decent chance if it's the Zetec.

Michalo187 11-23-2004 06:03 PM

2001-2003 the zx3 hb

Michalo187 11-23-2004 06:04 PM

dam its probably 2.0 i didnt know they made a 2.3L focus that shit much be quick

Blainestang 11-23-2004 06:12 PM

Yeah, the 2.3L isn't too shabby. The 2.3L (also used in the Mazda 3 and 6) became an option 2003, so if it's older than that, I believe it would have to be the 2.0.

Michalo187 11-23-2004 06:22 PM

ok i am pretty sure it isnt a 2004 because it looks older and didn't look to fast when i saw him floor it.

Arith 11-23-2004 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Blainestang
What engine does he have? What year is it?

2.3L PZEV I4
145hp
~150tq

2.0L ZETEC I4
130hp
135tq

Either way, I'd say he has the advantage stock. Even with the mods, if it's the PZEV, I'd say you're in trouble assuming equal driver's, but I think you'd have a decent chance if it's the Zetec.

yeah he's right, with both cars your gonna have some worries, but with the pzev, thats gonna be some hell. You might get em with the zetec motor, but the pzev is much different. Good luck.

S2000man01 11-23-2004 08:07 PM

it's ok. with any luck, one of the 13 recalls on the focus will take him out before the race even starts.

bgoetz 11-23-2004 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by S2000man01
it's ok. with any luck, one of the 13 recalls on the focus will take him out before the race even starts.

LMAO :rofl:

thiscrackerntam 11-23-2004 09:01 PM

He has the 2.0L w/ 130hp, because I know someone who has one and he has an 02'. You'll probably win if you drive decent. I lost to him by a hair when I was bone stock. He had cold air intake and custom exhaust at the time.

ajhdragon 11-24-2004 02:09 PM

i took my buddy in his dads 99 auto zx3 ztec, i beat him by about a car when all i had was my vtec d17a2 motor and rims w/r-rated tires.

thiscrackerntam 11-24-2004 02:17 PM

oh btw, we are both 5spd.

Blainestang 11-24-2004 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by ajhdragon
i took my buddy in his dads 99 auto zx3 ztec, i beat him by about a car when all i had was my vtec d17a2 motor and rims w/r-rated tires.

The manual's are much faster. Ford auto's generally suck. The Mustang's new 5-speed auto is an exception, but in general.

scatman 11-24-2004 03:49 PM

i raped a zx3 one night with my 01 EX i/h/e
and i had two peeps in my car, he had 1 other

Arith 11-24-2004 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Scatman
i raped a zx3 one night with my 01 EX i/h/e
and i had two peeps in my car, he had 1 other

dude, you forgot to mention he was bone stock and had no motor, he pulled a flinstones and you barley beat him by a bumper :rofl:

Michalo187 11-24-2004 05:48 PM

Both are 5 spd he has exhaust and i have pulleys, venom chip v2 intake obx headers exhaust kumho exsta Mx tires 18 we are both even drivers

ajhdragon 11-24-2004 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Arith
dude, you forgot to mention he was bone stock and had no motor, he pulled a flinstones and you barley beat him by a bumper :rofl:

lol nice yeah no way a civic is gonna rape a zx3 with justy h/i/e. it could win but not rape, those things are quick.

Metallica454 11-27-2004 07:29 PM

I raced by brother's 02 ZX3 5 speed and with my V2 intake he still beat me. We lined up 3 times and every time he'd always get me off the line (I suppose it's the torque advantage). Anyways, he'd get about 1 car length ahead, and then I'd stay right with him. On the highway though, at about 90+ I consistently pull on him, and once I hit 110 its all over.

thiscrackerntam 11-27-2004 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Metallica454
I raced by brother's 02 ZX3 5 speed and with my V2 intake he still beat me. We lined up 3 times and every time he'd always get me off the line (I suppose it's the torque advantage). Anyways, he'd get about 1 car length ahead, and then I'd stay right with him. On the highway though, at about 90+ I consistently pull on him, and once I hit 110 its all over.

I can pretty much vouch for that. Thats about the most accurate post I've seen on this thread yet. It was almost pretty much the same with me and my friend with his N/A ZX3 when I was stock. They're not bad at all from a dig for what they are. They seem to be slugs in 4th and 5th.

bhc786 12-16-2004 07:09 PM

Yea I got a 2002 Civic LX all stock and i raced my friends 2002 focus with zetec and intake.... and i beat the shit out of him.....

Michalo187 12-16-2004 07:10 PM

are they auto or manual?

SIinthesky 12-16-2004 07:30 PM

I built a ZX-3 for my friend. I personally don't like fords but this one is pretty quick. It is all motor and runs consistant high 13's

JE 10.5:1 Forged pistons
Eagle Rods
Rotating assembley fully balanced with pulley and flywheel
light weight pulleys
Lightweight flywheel
custom clutch
Comp stage 2 cams
Custom sheetmetal intake mani
Header with cat eliminator
2.5" exhaust
70mm TB
Mustang MAF
Chip
Quiafe LSD

Coming soon: Ford Racing cylinder head

The car looks stock and scares the crap out of B16 Honda hatches

bhc786 12-16-2004 07:32 PM

there both automatic

Blainestang 12-16-2004 08:55 PM

Stock vs. Stock, the ZX3 is faster, especially if it has the 2.3L Duratec with ~150hp. However, it's still a driver's race and anyone could win. Oh, and the engine is the 2.0 Zetec Engine, not a 2.0 engine W/ Zetec. It doesn't HAVE Zetec, it IS Zetec.

thiscrackerntam 12-16-2004 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Blainestang
Oh, and the engine is the 2.0 Zetec Engine, not a 2.0 engine W/ Zetec. It doesn't HAVE Zetec, it IS Zetec.

Thats like saying it doesnt have POS it IS a POS.

my05civic24 09-02-2005 03:27 PM

I used to drive an 01 focus zx3 all motor zetec 2.0L engine. I dismantled civics. ate them up like pancakes. the 01-05 civics had nothing on my lil focus hatch. I even took si's. the coupes and the new hatch's. The focus hatch would murder a civic any day.

bgoetz 09-02-2005 06:12 PM

Not only did you bring up a dead thread (beyond decomposition) you are full of shit. You must have been racing auto civics. Quick someone lock this thread before the stupidity wears off on us all.

MajinB 09-02-2005 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by my05civic24
I used to drive an 01 focus zx3 all motor zetec 2.0L engine. I dismantled civics. ate them up like pancakes. the 01-05 civics had nothing on my lil focus hatch. I even took si's. the coupes and the new hatch's. The focus hatch would murder a civic any day.

01 05 would be drivers race, si would rape you left and right. usually me and bgotez disagree on some things but your not telling it straight. i agree with him. ANY si would kill a 2.0 hatch focus. the 2.3 against an any si would be drivers race. but the SI's depending on which year you care to mention, weigh differntly. 99-00 would own you. newer ones would be drivers race. and the 06s would leave you in last week.


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