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01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! OK so I have a 2001 Honda Civic LX sedan 5-speed manual trans and some mods, I want to see what you would do next, or give me suggestions as to what to do with my car..my "major" (haha) mods are as follows Tokico HP neuspeed sport springs spc camber kit icw talon 17x7 wheels gloss black kumho ecsta supra 712 tires in 205 40 17 revo short shifter 20% tint stereo (headunit speakers amp box sub) rear strut bar upper hid kit type r knockoff lip removed axleback (still deciding on what muffler I want I may go with a twin loop) so, give me suggestions...what should my next move be with this car?? im personally not a fan of the wheels, and id like to go a bit lower with it, but thats more major I want to do little things for now http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/1774/dscf0654xu9.jpg http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/1667/dscf0658jv5.jpg and here you can kinda see it between the blue EP and white SeR http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5518/img2173iy4.jpg post up fellas..by the way critisism on work done so far is welcome, positive and negative...if you are going to bash, have reason behind it dont just come and say "ricer" without any explanation. thanks! |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice well, there's always changing out things...if you want (headlights, tail lights, grille...) there's always the folding side mirrors for our sedans have you checked about a Neuspeed Lower X-Brace??? really gives you stability in the steering! and there's always painting the door handles to match... just some thoughts. gotta love the sedan! are you in the city, or located outside of Philly? I sometimes visit my family in Devon, PA |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice going fo r a JDM theme??? sedans are always hot to go JDM, i recomend looking into getting your headlights blacked out and maybe an rs or type r grill, cant really see the wheels so i wouldnt kno what your rocking ... gL :thumbsup: |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice put some side skirts n a rear lip on there.... cars with only front lips look freaking ridiculous... |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice i say paint the lip and maybe get rsx or ep3 seats. The seats are probably one of the most noticable mods you can make on the civic that you can actually feel short of a swap or turbo |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice INTAKE!!! Front strut bar, progress front and rear sway bars. EBC green stuff pads for front discs. Let me know if you got any $$ after sthis stuff and I will continue. I drive the SAME car in silver check my profile and feel free to PM if you need help. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice i would go 100% jdm style if i had a sedan. i would get bronze 15s maybe some c8s, type r or rs front lip, oem sides and oem coupe rear. black out the headlights and leave the amber in, get the jdm style tails. hybrid folding mirrors, window visors, rs*r catback. ummm yeah i think thats it for now. then eventually turbo lol |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice
Originally Posted by manahoonie
(Post 4259098)
well, there's always changing out things...if you want (headlights, tail lights, grille...) there's always the folding side mirrors for our sedans have you checked about a Neuspeed Lower X-Brace??? really gives you stability in the steering! and there's always painting the door handles to match... just some thoughts. gotta love the sedan! are you in the city, or located outside of Philly? I sometimes visit my family in Devon, PA
Originally Posted by kuNhoHan
(Post 4259108)
going fo r a JDM theme??? sedans are always hot to go JDM, i recomend looking into getting your headlights blacked out and maybe an rs or type r grill, cant really see the wheels so i wouldnt kno what your rocking ... gL :thumbsup: http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8...982mfwrfp1.jpg
Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi
(Post 4259110)
put some side skirts n a rear lip on there.... cars with only front lips look freaking ridiculous...
Originally Posted by TemjinX2
(Post 4259114)
i say paint the lip and maybe get rsx or ep3 seats. The seats are probably one of the most noticable mods you can make on the civic that you can actually feel short of a swap or turbo
Originally Posted by Nokturnl
(Post 4259156)
INTAKE!!! Front strut bar, progress front and rear sway bars. EBC green stuff pads for front discs. Let me know if you got any $$ after sthis stuff and I will continue. I drive the SAME car in silver check my profile and feel free to PM if you need help.
Originally Posted by CenZ
(Post 4259177)
i would go 100% jdm style if i had a sedan. i would get bronze 15s maybe some c8s, type r or rs front lip, oem sides and oem coupe rear. black out the headlights and leave the amber in, get the jdm style tails. hybrid folding mirrors, window visors, rs*r catback. ummm yeah i think thats it for now. then eventually turbo lol |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice i'd paint the lip, black out the headlights, and get some smaller wheels. i think mesh wheels look really sweet on tan colored and gold cars. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice I would buy the factory gunmetal housing headlights or the factory black housing pm me if you want the link. also the PCP site thats on the banner has the red and clear JDM style tailights (knock offs) for the sedan. Get some sides and rear lip to match. get rid of all the crome and put black pieces in there place will look good on your light colored car. get some folding mirrors. and if you want a under chassis brace and your not going to lower the car more go with the D3 rsx under brace it fits and it connects at like 6 places under the car.( http://www.dthreedesigns.com/shoppin...assword=Guest#) car is looking good keep it up man |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice your on nuspeed struts your low enough, you dont look low cause of your 17s, put your steelies back on and you will see how low you really are |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice it'd look a lot nicer with 205/45/17 tires instead of 40, since your car is not slammed. it'll get rid of most of that wheel gap. second i'd get sides and rear lip. other than that it looks pretty good, just not feeling the rims that much though. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice OK i need more power, so here is the deal I can get an SS auto chrome exhaust (midpipe only) and a longtube header and test pipe for 75 bux (used stuff, guy hasnt had the car for 2 years) the thing is, I want to have power. swap is not an option...so my dillema lies here get the header and exhaust, and stop bitching, its an economy car or get a spare motor and build it N/A build it for boost build it for spray (havent seen this done yet) HELP!!! |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice i wanted to boost it before, but i got 116k on the motor I dont know if its a good idea..... should i get a lower mile motor and boost that stock get a diff motor and build it and boost it boost my motor car is a DD for me so I cant afford a lot of downtime...holla! |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! best way for boos imo, is to go pick up a spare d17 and work on that block and build it so it can handle the added boost ... thats what im in the process of doing, considering my car is my dd also |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?!
Originally Posted by kuNhoHan
(Post 4261832)
best way for boos imo, is to go pick up a spare d17 and work on that block and build it so it can handle the added boost ... thats what im in the process of doing, considering my car is my dd also The only thing is, for the next 2-4 years it needs to be reliable...I duno how that will be with boost, and I dont wana spend a shitload of money for the setup, and with the fact that I dont know squat about motor building, add the cost of labor to the rods, pistons, studs, gaskets, and motor itself, plus the kit...its turning into quite a lot of cash...there lies my dillema. my best bet is to keep it the way it is and just drive it, but I keep getting this urge...its like that time of the month for me :hithead: |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! do not boost it or you will hate yourself later lol. keep it, get a real job, then you can think about better car. theres no point playing with pos economy cars that cant handle the power. unless youre loaded and can tow it to the shop to fix stuff everytime it breaks down. work on other mods, there is plenty to do from the pics you posted besides engine work. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! Im boosted with 122k miles and still going strong with 270hp. Well my tranny isnt really going strong after my last couple races from a stand still. I cant really boost in 2nd anymore but other then that no problems at all. If you keep the power in the low 200s you will not have problems. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! a guy is offering me the following for my rims t3/t4 turbo ev9 intercooler and piping b-series turbo manifold blitz (i think) BOV i know i cant use all this stuff but i can sell some of it to get shit for my car....should i do it?? I wana have like 175-200whp max |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! buying used turbo is a bad idea if you dont know anything about em. could be junk and you wouldnt even know it. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! mileage has nothing to do with whether you should turbo or not. A well maintained engine with 122k is going to be better then a engine that was abused with little maintence with 70k. You should do a compression test first and see how health the motor is. Building the block and piece a good turbo kit is around the same price as a k-swap, unless you do all the work all yourself. Both ways will require a good amount of down time. Nitrous is probably the cheapest way but it gets expensive to keep refilling and it will eventually kill your motor. I suggest you read the articles on the site on turbo and k-swaps before you decide. The more research you do, the less money you'll waste in the long run. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! I have a chance to get a full 2.5 inch exhaust and a racing header (no cat) for my LX for 75 dollars...guy got it from ssautochrome and sold the car 2 years ago its been sittin in his shed since...should i grab it |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! You wont notice any difference in power only noise. A header doesnt do anything neither does a 2.5" exhaust on a NA car, Im sorry to say it but if you want more power... Boost or swap. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! seems kinda funny you would say that...how is deleting a cat not good for at least a few ponies...explain |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! Here are pictures of the stuff...he said there was a noticable gain with it on his lx, nothing major but a bit more power...and no, I will not be using the double canisters..il put em on and see if I like it...might not be too bad, but probbably going to get a different axleback http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5452/imgp0482cy2.jpg http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4063/imgp0483ps3.jpg http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9720/imgp0484vg2.jpg |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! don't let people discourage you about driving a boosted car daily. it's ALL in the tune, and quality components. i'd say tune comes first even then though. in fact, i know a couple people who drive boosted Ds that live by me all throughout the year. if you take your time and do it right, and you're sensible with your driving and not beating on it every second, there will be no problems. i see people having a lot of problems with boosted d17s on here and i just dont get it. i know people with d16s (i know it's not a d17) who spend like 1000 dollars on turbo stuff and use old volvo and DSM turdblows and still have reliable setups with minimal problems. check out homemadeturbo.com if you're on a budget. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?!
Originally Posted by beadebaserr
(Post 4262194)
don't let people discourage you about driving a boosted car daily. it's ALL in the tune, and quality components. i'd say tune comes first even then though. in fact, i know a couple people who drive boosted Ds that live by me all throughout the year. if you take your time and do it right, and you're sensible with your driving and not beating on it every second, there will be no problems. i see people having a lot of problems with boosted d17s on here and i just dont get it. i know people with d16s (i know it's not a d17) who spend like 1000 dollars on turbo stuff and use old volvo and DSM turdblows and still have reliable setups with minimal problems. check out homemadeturbo.com if you're on a budget. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! It will give you maybe 1-2hp and the car wont be any faster. If you want to notice a difference the only way is forcing more air into the engine or swap it out for one that makes more power to begin with. I had bolt ons before and I actually noticed a difference in low end power when I went back to stock. Really all the NA mods do is bring the power band up in the higher RPM range and will hurt low end. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?!
Originally Posted by dopes6070
(Post 4262214)
It will give you maybe 1-2hp and the car wont be any faster. If you want to notice a difference the only way is forcing more air into the engine or swap it out for one that makes more power to begin with. I had bolt ons before and I actually noticed a difference in low end power when I went back to stock. Really all the NA mods do is bring the power band up in the higher RPM range and will hurt low end. all i can say about that exhaust stuff is if it's cheap, why not. but please don't run both of those mufflers. haha. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! Ok where to start?? Exhaust will be good for about as much hp as a sticker would maybe 1 hp more, If it sounds good and fits right for that price i would run it. I would recommend either swap (200 hp) or just save up the cash and buy a car that you could afford to sit (because it will). As far as what new to put in your ride thats up to your tastes. Got ICE?? |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?!
Originally Posted by bigainabuilt
(Post 4262245)
Ok where to start?? Exhaust will be good for about as much hp as a sticker would maybe 1 hp more, If it sounds good and fits right for that price i would run it. I would recommend either swap (200 hp) or just save up the cash and buy a car that you could afford to sit (because it will). As far as what new to put in your ride thats up to your tastes. Got ICE?? 300watt rms sub by eclipse older model blaunkpunkt speakers kenwood amp sony deck dont need anything else as far as the exhaust, il be better off with an intake probbably...my old one actually gave me more power after 4500, sounded good, and better MPG |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! By new blacked out headlights to refresh the car - they look a little sun faded. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?!
Originally Posted by ultimatetuner10
(Post 4262166)
seems kinda funny you would say that...how is deleting a cat not good for at least a few ponies...explain unless you have a 1970's pushrod engine in there, the cat doesn't eat that much power. Most modern engines are designed with the cat in mind. Some members even said they lost power then they deleted there cat because of the lost of back pressure. We're just trying to save you some money. Most of the members have had I/H/E. Then went back to stock when they realized it didnt do anything and they lost there low end power. The d17 is tuned pretty well straight from the factory. Getting power out of sohc low displacement 4 cyclinder is difficult. Force induction or a swaps is the best way to get a lot of power out of the money you invested. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice
Originally Posted by manahoonie
(Post 4259098)
well, there's always changing out things...if you want (headlights, tail lights, grille...) there's always the folding side mirrors for our sedans have you checked about a Neuspeed Lower X-Brace??? really gives you stability in the steering! and there's always painting the door handles to match... just some thoughts. gotta love the sedan! are you in the city, or located outside of Philly? I sometimes visit my family in Devon, PA |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! il probbably just get my muffler put back on, the stock one, and leave the shit for now |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! real quick will an injen intake from an automatic fit a manual...?? its a coldair http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9...1071439bz5.jpg http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6034/intake1ly9.jpg |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! looks like the bracket wont even line up |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! or this one...looks like the injen and fujita system but without the letters http://www.tuningdepot.com/ebay/images/ca10211.JPG 80 bux brand new...any experience with this?? the mount seems to be in the same place as the other intakes as well....worth it?? |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! come on people intake help |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! I ended up cutting the brackets off my generic Ebay intake and making my own with a piece of 90 degree bent aluminum (about 2" long by 1/2" wide) and a worm clamp. That way you can move it up and down the pipe to where you want it. The only difference in the AT and MT intakes is the location of the little mounting bracket. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! ^ speedfoos is right on. ebay intakes arent good for anything but the piping. i used my own hardware putting mine on when i had one and made little brackets for it. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! thanks dudes...yea the brackets on my old ebay one didnt line up at all, but maybe this one will be different being obx, at least some form of a brand name. does the design look the same as the injen and fujita? it does to me |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! no, injen, obx, fujita cold airs will not fit on automatics, due to the tranny being in the way. |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! actually they all make a automatic version... |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! will one from an auto fit a manual...i know the bracket is in a diff spot, but if i get an auto intake for my manual will it still bolt on? |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! with a t3 turbo how much boost can i run safely. motor has 117k miles and given that compression is still ok. some said 7 and call it a day some said 10 and get arp studs, thicker headgasket, and a good tune with chrome |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! if u have spare change to throw around save up for a new d17 block bottom end and u can work on it... while u have ur dd thats what im doin considerin im dd as well |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! Did some thinking and I am feelin as follows for now Put the exhaust on that I have Blackout headlights Ditch the lip and front bumper for a hybrid one Hybrid lip spoiler 04/05 rear bumper 04/05 taillights 16in rotas (undecided on which ones I want) that or I may just drive it the way it is since I want to get a new car when I turn 21, not sure yet. Suggestions? |
Re: 01 Sedan...need some advice...116k miles and boost?! I also have this axleback sitting in my garage..love the sound of it, but the look kills it for me...maybe I should paint it black and put it on instead of the exhaust?? http://youtube.com/watch?v=omok92Ly-MY |
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