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LilRedEX 12-22-2011 05:04 PM

koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
Title pretty much says it all, price is about the same...

Does anyone have the koni's on their car? Tried a search but came up empty handed.

MindBomber 12-22-2011 06:35 PM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
Tokico blues have been the preferred strut in that price range for many years, but Koni Str wasn't released for our cars until a a couple years ago and almost everyone has continued using the tried and test blues. Koni Str is very popular among earlier gen civic owners though, and vastly preferred to blues. Given the choice, if I were to purchase today, I would probably go with koni. I did however, purchase blues a year ago and used them for six months and absolutely loved them just like everyone else. It's practically a coin toss.

sl33pyriceboi 12-22-2011 10:11 PM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
koni doesnt make STR.T for the 7thgen civics (01-05)

pwnsauce 12-23-2011 03:27 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 

Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4579189)
koni doesnt make STR.T for the 7thgen civics (01-05)

yes they do

part #'s

front left- 8750-1019L
front right- 8750-1019R
rears- 8050-1025

i was debating on getting these but decided i wanted to save up for a used set of megan coilovers

heres a link to a set
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KONI-STR-T-S...#ht_1071wt_794

sl33pyriceboi 12-23-2011 03:42 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
^wow. i missed that when i was doing research for dropping my car.

i stand corrected

sl33pyriceboi 12-23-2011 03:44 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
i looked at the ebay listing...and its wrong...at least the description/info

it says:


Will Fit:

HONDA Civic 01-05 ( 50mm outer diameter housing. excl Si )

*Part Number: 8750-1019L + 8750-1019R + 8050-1025(2)



theres a problem there. the 01-02 use 50mm housing while the 03-05 use 55mm housing.

you cannot put the if u put the 50mm koni in a 55mm strut housing, it'll be extreeeeeemly loose, resulting in very sloppy handling.

sl33pyriceboi 12-23-2011 03:46 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
to the OP:

these are not direct plug and play.

you have to really moddify and hack ur stock suspension to get these in. these are the same setup as the koni yellows (which i have). they are a big pain in the ass to install.

(just something to keep in mind)


so for simplicity sake, id say get the blues.

sl33pyriceboi 12-23-2011 03:49 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
1 Attachment(s)
when you buy it, you will JUST get a tube (yours will be red tho, the picture shows the koni yellow series)

you will have to hack ur STOCK suspension, drill a hole at the bottom, insert the seals/rubber dusk cover the proper way, and then install it. its really a PITA.

heres what i mean:

Attachment 97374

pwnsauce 12-23-2011 04:52 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
no their direct replacements. no modifying at all. it replaces the oem housings with 50mm housings and a 50mm tube already installed together.

their not like the yellows, just like blues

http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/arc...p/t-17440.html

pwnsauce 12-23-2011 05:03 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
however dont expect them to perform like yellows cuz they wont. str.t's are like oem replacements (like blues)

LilRedEX 12-23-2011 10:17 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
Wow! Lots of good info!

Thanks guys!

Anyone else who have them would like to comment?

sdaidoji 12-23-2011 12:47 PM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
?
STR.T are the lowest price replacement from Koni...
from their site:

Honda 01-02 Civic Sedan/Coupe Excl. SI - STR.T- Street (Orange)
Front Rear
8750 1019L
8750 1019R 8050 1025
Replaces 50mm O.D. Original struts

i ndo not think they are insert type either? just normal replacement struts, the cheapest from koni... not sure how they perform. Heard some good reviews for miatas, but them again all depends on the valving being correct for the car. And they could be valved for stock but not consider stiffer springs (like the blues are for civics, but not for miatas).

sl33pyriceboi 12-24-2011 02:37 PM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
that twice i got corrected.lol im so done!

haha. but y wiuld they make a direct replacement for the str.t and not the yellows!?

MindBomber 12-24-2011 02:52 PM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 

Originally Posted by pwnsauce (Post 4579226)
however dont expect them to perform like yellows cuz they wont. str.t's are like oem replacements (like blues)

I don't like how blues are referred to as OEM replacements, because it's not correct, they aren't extremely aggressive, but they're a lot better than oem for our purposes. If they weren't all of us who have used blues with lowering springs would have blown them right away and had a sloppy ride.


Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4579377)
that twice i got corrected.lol im so done!

haha. but y wiuld they make a direct replacement for the str.t and not the yellows!?

I got corrected the other day too, time for us to retire and promote a new batch of mods I think.

sdaidoji 12-25-2011 09:25 AM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 

Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi (Post 4579377)
that twice i got corrected.lol im so done!
haha. but y wiuld they make a direct replacement for the str.t and not the yellows!?

the str.t are newer, so not sure if they could handle stronger springs, so not really sure if they compare to blues. not sure anyone would know without seeing what valving they have. better contact koni, i guess, and posting the answer here, OP...

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 4579381)
I don't like how blues are referred to as OEM replacements, because it's not correct.

completely agree for the reasons posted above :)

Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 4579381)
I got corrected the other day too, time for us to retire and promote a new batch of mods I think.

yeah, now i am youger than you guys, thanks! 40 y-o old shrinky hairy butt here :D

Doug007 04-19-2013 08:10 PM

Re: koni str.t or tokico blues?
 
I had the STR.T installed two weeks ago on my 08 EX daily driver on stock springs. I immediately noticed less body roll on a few local twisty roads. The ride is firmer and overall I prefer how it has improved the handling. I've picked up a noise in the front which is only heard when the car is cold and at low speeds over bumps. Once the car is warm and/or at speed, no noise. Everything is tight, the isolator is installed and nothing is rubbing. Any thoughts on the cause?

Overall, I'd recommend if you want a ride that's firmer than stock but comfortable for daily driving.

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