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hondalx2002 09-13-2015 02:19 PM

overheating
 
Hi, i have a 2002 Honda Civic lx.My car has overheated 2 times since last wed. First 2 weeks ago I had a new radiator put in and car ran fine. Last wed I was going up the mountains and it overheated. it drove fine threw the rest of the week (to and from) work. Friday night I was driving about 15 min and it overheated again. Noticed the fans werent working. I replaced the thermostat and still overheated. So I jumped the fans with a paper clip and they both went on so I know there both working. I also jumped the relay switch and its working.so then i replaced the cool fan switch and still over heating. I ran the car with heat on for 20 min and fans never came on and it over heated and did the same with the air. Anyone know what else it could be? everythigns working but still overheating. TIA

mikey1 09-13-2015 02:25 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by hondalx2002 (Post 4693216)
Anyone know what else it could be?

yup.....your head gasket is blown

ezone 09-13-2015 04:09 PM

Re: overheating
 

ran the car with heat on for 20 min
Just how much heat did the heater put out? None?

I did not see any mention of refilling the radiator. Is it empty?

Head gasket, just because.

bsmiley 09-13-2015 05:51 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4693221)
Just how much heat did the heater put out? None?

I did not see any mention of refilling the radiator. Is it empty?

Head gasket, just because.

Its a good thing OP didn't do any searching in the 7th gen forum... :hithead:

WHEW! --- I was beginning to fret we'd make it a whole day without an overheating post. :evil:

wingsfan19 09-13-2015 07:27 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by bsmiley (Post 4693225)
Its a good thing OP didn't do any searching in the 7th gen forum... :hithead:

WHEW! --- I was beginning to fret we'd make it a whole day without an overheating post. :evil:

I'd laugh, but the same thing happened to my son's 2003 LX:hithead:

Mad Dog Tannen 09-14-2015 09:10 AM

Re: overheating
 
Head gasket is not necessarily the culprit. I would make sure your fans are cycling before taking the head off. If they aren't turning on then that is probably the issue. If the switch relay and fans seem to operate on their own then, I would look at wiring.

After that I would test for a blown head gasket.

Wankenstein 09-15-2015 02:30 PM

Re: overheating
 
Weak/failing water pump maybe? Any leaks near water pump?

Mad Dog Tannen 09-15-2015 05:43 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by turd_ferguson (Post 4693374)
Weak/failing water pump maybe? Any leaks near water pump?

He did not mention coolant consumption, if he doesn't have any then that is not the case.

Do water pumps gradually go bad? I thought they just gave out like a light switch, they are directly attached to the belt, so I don't see how it could be weak flow, only flow or no flow... Correct me if I am wrong.

Wankenstein 09-15-2015 06:10 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4693379)
He did not mention coolant consumption, if he doesn't have any then that is not the case.

Do water pumps gradually go bad? I thought they just gave out like a light switch, they are directly attached to the belt, so I don't see how it could be weak flow, only flow or no flow... Correct me if I am wrong.

Could be bearing going bad:

Mad Dog Tannen 09-15-2015 06:38 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by turd_ferguson (Post 4693384)

I do not trust a man who puts that much blue RTV in a place that needs no RTV at all.

Also I could not get audio for some strange glitchy reason, so all I saw was the pictures.

Honestly I have never had to deal with this issue, because I replace the pump every time I do the timing belt, it's just insurance.

Wankenstein 09-15-2015 07:14 PM

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ezone 09-15-2015 07:14 PM

Re: overheating
 
^^^Good Gawd that place looks like a hole.
Tires along the ceiling like a gas station, grease stains all over the walls.
Or maybe that's black mold I see?
SOAP AND PAINT ARE CHEAP!!


^^Ditto on the blue RTV, and IMO the same goes for orange RTV.
Both scream 'amateur' in my world.

Mad Dog Tannen 09-15-2015 07:20 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by turd_ferguson (Post 4693384)

That video confirms my previous understanding... Bearings just make noise, the seal leaks or it just breaks inside. There is no "low flow" situation.

Wankenstein 09-15-2015 07:26 PM

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duplicate post
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Wankenstein 09-15-2015 07:28 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4693387)
I do not trust a man who puts that much blue RTV in a place that needs no RTV at all.

Also I could not get audio for some strange glitchy reason, so all I saw was the pictures.

Honestly I have never had to deal with this issue, because I replace the pump every time I do the timing belt, it's just insurance.


I've had intermittent overheating to an old 1970's Datsun B110 https://www.google.com/search?q=dats...IVTO8UCh1tcQCD I owned about 30 years ago. Replaced water pump and was good to go until I sold it. Rear wheel drive..schweeeet. Only other car that looks as cool is this : https://www.google.com/search?q=rx3&...FYtyFAod5YcFSQ

Maybe I am wrong? Just going by my own experience in which the water pump did cause a low flow situation.
Read it and weep ..son: http://autoresource.internetautoguid...-bad-1389.html

ezone 09-15-2015 07:57 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4693398)
There is no "low flow" situation.

I've witnessed, diagnosed, and fixed more than I care to remember.
YES it happens --- and for various reasons.
It's not a common problem, but it does happen.


Impeller blade/fin wear
Housing wear
Block wear
Impeller slippage

All can cause low flow problems.

Wankenstein 09-15-2015 08:34 PM

Re: overheating
 
Water-pump talk is good an all but, what's really important in this thread is this:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a777309b1a.jpg

That's hot & over-heating for ya!

ezone 09-15-2015 08:50 PM

Re: overheating
 
^Izzaat an RX-3?

Wankenstein 09-15-2015 10:54 PM

Re: overheating
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4693420)
^Izzaat an RX-3?

Yes, Check out the rotary symbol in the front grill.,here's more: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3825316/1973-mazda-rx-3/

Ezone.. ever work on one of these Honda's:
Leno's head is about half the size of the car.


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