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steven10 06-24-2005 12:24 AM

kinda new... =[
 
sorry to ask this but like i need help! haha what can i do to make my car shiny?... it has lots of swirl marks in it... its very shiny but it has too many swirl marks... ive heard of a quick detailing thing called clay griots garage or something but im pretty new at this.. HELP PLEASE

ojay 06-24-2005 01:08 AM

well to make anything shiny, you polish it. to get rid of swirls you polish it with heat and with as least amount of abrasiveness as possible.

soonercivic 06-24-2005 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by ojay
well to make anything shiny, you polish it. to get rid of swirls you polish it with heat and with as least amount of abrasiveness as possible.

That it true, but there are other ways to get rid of swirls. Im guessing since your new at this you dont have any machine polishers. You best bet to remove and swirls is to use Meguiars ScratchX. It will take some elbow grease and will take some time to do the whole car, but will be worth it. Heres some sample results
Before
http://meguiarsonline.com/gallery/da...s1jRAW-med.jpg
after
http://meguiarsonline.com/gallery/da...ssSwirls1k.jpg

Then you can polish and wax. I use Meguiars #7 polish, but you will probably like the Deep Crystal system for ease of use. Just get Deep Crystal System Step 2 and some Meguiars NXT Wax and you will be good to go.

civicrice 06-24-2005 10:06 AM

:_doh: im sorry but some of you guys talk out of your ass a lot. That scratch x shit is junk. What you need is a Swirl Remover. For example. Meguiars #9. look it up. Or auto Magic's XP swirl remover. there are many more. And a safe way to do it is with an orbital/Dual action polisher. I know many people have used a pc before (porter cable). that works well to get rid of holograms, ^ like what is on the green mercedes. If you have (spider webs) swirly marks there is different skills to doing it. Remember the only way to truely remove swirl marks is with a machine.

And that meguiars #7 can kiss my ass. :tdown:

soonercivic 06-24-2005 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by civicrice
:_doh: im sorry but some of you guys talk out of your ass a lot. That scratch x shit is junk. What you need is a Swirl Remover. For example. Meguiars #9. look it up. Or auto Magic's XP swirl remover. there are many more. And a safe way to do it is with an orbital/Dual action polisher. I know many people have used a pc before (porter cable). that works well to get rid of holograms, ^ like what is on the green mercedes. If you have (spider webs) swirly marks there is different skills to doing it. Remember the only way to truely remove swirl marks is with a machine.

And that meguiars #7 can kiss my ass. :tdown:

^speaking of talking out your ass.....

ScratchX works great, but it is limited in what it can do because it is only applied by hand therefore sometimes taking 5 or more applications working a 2x2 area for about 2-3 minutes. It only works as well as the effort you put out. Yes a swirl remover, like #9, would work. The only problem is #9 is intended to be used to a DA or a rotary polshier. Without the DA you wont create enough heat with your hand to properly remove the swirls. Like he said, he is new to this, which means he probably doesnt have a polisher. Now you mention an orbital/dual action polisher, they are totally different machines. The orbital will remove swirls but with leave holograms. The DA will remove both because its the closest machine movement to what you do by hand. Also, the orbital limits the amount of abrasive products you can use. The green Mercedes did have holograms, but it also had cobwebs that were removed by using only ScratchX. You also said the ONLY way to remove swirl marks is with a machine, i must correct you, the BEST way is with a machine but it can be done by hand. I dont know what your problem with #7 is, but its a great polish. If your polishing by hand though, #81 is for user friendly and easy to remove. Im tired of people talking out their ass too, so would you please stop? thanks :hgrin:

messiah 06-24-2005 11:00 AM

i totall agree with soonercivic!

civicrice 06-24-2005 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by soonercivic
^speaking of talking out your ass.....

ScratchX works great, but it is limited in what it can do because it is only applied by hand therefore sometimes taking 5 or more applications working a 2x2 area for about 2-3 minutes. It only works as well as the effort you put out. Yes a swirl remover, like #9, would work. The only problem is #9 is intended to be used to a DA or a rotary polshier. Without the DA you wont create enough heat with your hand to properly remove the swirls. Like he said, he is new to this, which means he probably doesnt have a polisher. Now you mention an orbital/dual action polisher, they are totally different machines. The orbital will remove swirls but with leave holograms. The DA will remove both because its the closest machine movement to what you do by hand. Also, the orbital limits the amount of abrasive products you can use. The green Mercedes did have holograms, but it also had cobwebs that were removed by using only ScratchX. You also said the ONLY way to remove swirl marks is with a machine, i must correct you, the BEST way is with a machine but it can be done by hand. I dont know what your problem with #7 is, but its a great polish. If your polishing by hand though, #81 is for user friendly and easy to remove. Im tired of people talking out their ass too, so would you please stop? thanks :hgrin:

lol, i give up. you can have this "detail section" haha

soonercivic 06-24-2005 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by civicrice
lol, i give up. you can have this "detail section" haha

Hey, im happy to listen to what you have to say. I will just offer my opinion as well. Different people like different products, but some information is just kinda general. Hope its not the last we hear from you.

danase 06-26-2005 08:02 PM

I've gotten PLENTY of swirls out by hand. So you don't need a machine to do it. Poorboy's Super Swirl Removers are an AWESOME line that is very friendly to use for the people applying by hand.

YUL 07-01-2005 11:37 AM

^^true, any swirls I've had, i've been able to take them out by hand. someone told me there is no need for a buffer on a new car....just elbow grease.

soonercivic 07-01-2005 01:13 PM

That also depends on the severity of any defects.


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