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elfred 02-08-2019 04:53 PM

Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 
Hi Civicforum,

So I am doing a M/T rebuild because of the ISB issue, might as well rebuild the other bearing.

The first photo is the OEM bearing on both countershaft, before I take it off, needle bearing clearance has little bit millimeter gap on it on the gear.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...22e1211a4.jpeg


So second photos is when I installed new countershaft and needle bearings.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...9c52d920e.jpeg

My question is, did I do it right on needle bearing (the 2nd one on the latter that touches the gear so much) will it scratched on the gear, do I need to worry about it? And is there any peeler gauge measurement when doing this?




Cheers!
Elfred

ezone 02-08-2019 05:28 PM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 
What does your service manual say?

elfred 02-08-2019 05:37 PM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 
I dont have manual book for Acura 2001 EL 1.7, just bought this car few months ago.


ezone 02-08-2019 05:42 PM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 
Search forum for "looking for a 7th gen manual for free" and go to the most recent pages and links in the thread
Note most links lead to manuals that cover cars worldwide so be careful when looking for info make sure it really applies to your own car

elfred 02-08-2019 06:27 PM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4758349)
Search forum for "looking for a 7th gen manual for free" and go to the most recent pages and links in the thread
Note most links lead to manuals that cover cars worldwide so be careful when looking for info make sure it really applies to your own car


Ok awesome!, thank you! I got the link;
downloaded it and seen lots lots!
still checkin on it on my smart phone...

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...pdated-10.html

Thanks again dude!

elfred 02-09-2019 04:41 PM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 
Hi civicforums! so just on update on my CS bearing and clearances.
took some photos if my spare tranny(left), seems looks the same how I install it.



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...1ac0c94f0.jpeg


Cheers!

ELfred

ezone 02-09-2019 08:14 PM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 
That bearing you mentioned earlier you said rubbed against the gear (" will it scratched on the gear, do I need to worry about it? "), it should not do that.
(fails a very basic rule of thumb: "is there enough clearance?") The race must be far enough away to not rub as the gear spins
But You needed to be using a real service manual anyway, hope that helped

I could not tell if maybe something got assembled upside down (a very real possibility) but that might be enough to cause a clearance issue like that

elfred 02-10-2019 06:44 AM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4758374)
That bearing you mentioned earlier you said rubbed against the gear (" will it scratched on the gear, do I need to worry about it? "), it should not do that.
(fails a very basic rule of thumb: "is there enough clearance?") The race must be far enough away to not rub as the gear spins
But You needed to be using a real service manual anyway, hope that helped

I could not tell if maybe something got assembled upside down (a very real possibility) but that might be enough to cause a clearance issue like that

Ok Im not sure if I did it upside down, I might pull it gently, and re-install it again...
but using bearing puller will make this new installed bearing garbage,
I am thingking by pulling it to the shaft, I might drop the shaft to the ground upside down,
so only inner race on both CS bearing and needle bearing will move fair enough equally out
from the counter shaft to avoid bearing deformity.


Elfred

elfred 02-10-2019 07:07 AM

Re: Installing countershaft & needle bearing; Did I do it right?
 



Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4758374)
That bearing you mentioned earlier you said rubbed against the gear (" will it scratched on the gear, do I need to worry about it? "), it should not do that.
(fails a very basic rule of thumb: "is there enough clearance?") The race must be far enough away to not rub as the gear spins
But You needed to be using a real service manual anyway, hope that helped

I could not tell if maybe something got assembled upside down (a very real possibility) but that might be enough to cause a clearance issue like that



The inner needle bearing has a clearance, the only worries me is the casing of the inner bearing the one that rubs on the top latter of the splined fixed gear.

photos here as disassembled before installing.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...a33ed1a28.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...df382b64b.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...64a090b47.jpeg


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