10,000 mile oil change
 

Does anyone wait until 10,000 miles to change their oil? I usually change at 5,000, but I have gone 7500 this time and wondering...I checked the oil , there is still plenty of oil in and it is very clean...wait till 10,000 like the manual says?

Uhmmm.... the manual say under ideal conditions the car can go 10K miles, normal or hard driving oil should be changed every 5K.

screw that ....your car is an investment...and im sure you dont baby it.....its not going to be worth a blown motor down the road

I change every 3k miles still.

me too...

i changed about 5k or half a year using synthetic

oil is always 'clean' it never gets 'dirty'......all that happens is that all the detergents and additives are depleted and yur left with the black, base, petroleum part. so the oil is actually always clean, just......gets used up. i usually change it every 3,000.

Your car is not an investment. It is a liability. It depreciates every second you own it and ever time you drive it. If you have paid the bank and have the title it becomes an depreciating asset. The only time your car is an investment is if you buy a luxury sports car and the car appreciates and allows you to buy something of more value than you bought the car for.

Review:

1. Car with payments = Liability
2. Car fully paid off = Depreciating Asset
3. Classic car just sitting in your garage = Asset/investment

haha +1

thanks for the responses ABOUT OIL CHANGE MILES, keep in on the topic of when you change your oil not this other stuff, thanks.

Actually, this has been covoered many times... 90% of internal combution engines have this thing called blow by, where a little bit of the carbon from the fuel gets by the piston rings. INstead of depositing this blow by on things like your crank, and everything that your oil goes into. Oil turns black because the blow by get suspended in the oil, but the larger particles get filtered out by your filter. These small particles are what makes your oil turn black, it's small particles of carbon, the same stuff you see coming out of the stacks on a semitruck.

Sorry about the above post, lol... but it is good to informed about why you need to change your oil, hence this can be related to why it is bad to go to long.

mee too but i hardly reach that in 3 months so sometimes i wait for the 6month lol

id change it every 3000k .. thats what i do also

Sadly, if you change your oil every 5k miles and perform the other recommended maintenance, your civic can last you 500,000 miles. meaning you wont need another car for a loooong time.

Just because a couple honda's have made it to the 500K mark, doesn't mean they all can. My dad had a '93 Accord DX, changed the oil every 3k and did all maintenance when recommended by Honda and spun the main baring at 223K. My point is that every engine is made a little different, after 200K+ those little differences become big differences and the engine fails. For instance, when the cylinder bore is made in the factory, the bit is changed dialy, perhaps your engine was the first engine that bit saw, that means your bores are near perfect, while the last engine of the day got a bit that's been used all day and the bores are not as striaght, but not bad. The last engine simply will not last as long as the first.

My bad, i may have exxagerated with 500k. but i have two 1980 civic sedans park near me at work and they run fine. Both are 350k+ miles. pretty impressive if you ask me. i think the way you drive is more important than the difference of oil changes btwn 3-5-10k miles.

every 3K

I really wasn't tring to be harsh or anything, just pointing out that not every Civic is created equal. I too have seen many well above the 300K mark. But to stay on topic, I don't think a 3-5K oil change will matter that much. I go 3K because changing your oil to often can not hurt your car, but leaving bad oil in your car can hurt the engine. People who say, I change my oil every 7.5K and nothing has happend, usually only have their cars for under 100K. I would like to see the cylinder bores after 100K, because the damage done by not changing your oil is not an immediate thing. It can cuase small scratchs in the cylinder wall, and with time those become big scratchs, then you start to loose compression. At the same time things like gaskets start to suffer from the degraded oil (if you are not using synthtic oil). Your filter becomes saturated and can no longer get larger particles of carbon out from the blow by of the cylinders. So, only bad things can happen from leaving your oil in to long, although the problems usually dont arise for a while, you are causing exsive ware and tear on the internals of the engine. That's why I go every 3k, I bet 5k would be okay too, but like I siad earlier, better safe than sorry. A few more quartz of oil and a filter is cheaper than a K24 (I have an Accord).

Whats oil? I can never go 3000 miles I gotta fillup at least every 375

christ, change it every 3000, i dont care what the manual says. you want longevity out of your engine life........every 3000.

I agree that it would depend on how you drive. If you do mostly stop and go i would change the oil every 3k. If you do 80% or more highway, you can probably will till 5k or 7500 miles before it changes. I think 10k is a little too long, but then again BMW's have 10k oil changes and volves have 7500 mile oil changes. The reason being is that technology in engines have become a lot more efficient then those of the past, so you dont have to change the oil as often as the old ones.

3000 is too short and 5000 is too long for dino oil.. so I change mine every 4000 miles with genuine Honda 5w20 and Honda Filtech filter.

Engine technology has changed,but oil has changed even more. Syntek oil and good filters will go 10K no problem,unless you live in the desert! :rofl: You can change sooner if you want,but you woun't see any difference.
And sorry I don't use any Honda fluids or filters.

I go about 5k-7.5k, and use full synthetic oil. I wouldn't go that far if I used regular oil. My dealer says 3750-5000 with regular crude based oil though.

yeah i forgot to mention that too. I wouldn't go 10k if you a lot of stop and go driving though. 10k is mostly optimal at highway driving. I think 5k is a good compromise between 3k and 10k.

I go 3500 with it! Thats the least the most 4000 but i would never go 10000 with the same oil especially the way i drive but i guess it does all depend on how you drive your car.

Honda use a synthetic blend oil for the 5w20 oil. They have to use a synthetic blend oil becasue of emmisions... not sure what on the emmision, but that's what they told me, and they wouldn't tell me more. I got that from American Honda too, not some guy in the dealership.

[QUOTE=Jrfish007]Honda use a synthetic blend oil for the 5w20 oil. They have to use a synthetic blend oil becasue of emmisions... not sure what on the emmision, but that's what they told me, and they wouldn't tell me more. I got that from American Honda too, not some guy in the dealership.[/QDaddy said you can bs your friends cause the belive you, strangers woun't! Blend? 1%= blend.
Sorry, just not like a mfg to give you anything good!

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So what about the car you are driving? Isn't that from the same manufacture?

Lets think about that for a second here... Honda is known for reilabilty, why would they want to comprise that with crapy oil? It would make more sense to me if they gave a better oil that would help there cars last longer, becasue that's what they are know for.

true, I don't know what they how much they blend. Perhaps they use organic oil with addatives, and that's their blend. But if they think I should use these addatives, then I will, becasue sure have a lot more at stake if something goes wrong with my car than any other oil company out there.

its just oil guys. Nothing to fight over. Change the oil whenver you guys want. Just not longer then what the manual saids. Its like the people who buy 91 and saids it makes a difference to each there own.

Better to change earlier than later.

lol, my point is still the same as Gearbox's, changing soon cann't hurt, but waiting can

my mom oricinally leased htis car for herself. during her lease she followed the maual's suggestion of every 10k change the oil. but i bought it out of the lease in august of '04..since then i change the oil every 3k

3k 3k

eh change it whenever you want. I drive 120+ miles a day so changing it every 3k would mean i would to change my oil almost every month.

changed my oil today...
 

Well, I guess I will change my oil every 5,000 miles...I went to 7,000 miles this time, but I agree 5,000 miles change is safe...for all you who change at 3k you are wasting your $$$$$ waste is away ......... :shake:
The manual says 5,000-10,000 ....5,000 is very safe 10,000 max.
less than 5,000 - unessary and waste of money
you should belive the honda manual made by honda techs experts. new cars can wait longer to change...5,000 miles it is.
Thanks for the comments

always at 3k but mostly before that

Did some guy ask what oil was? Anyway Royal Purple every 3k.

4K miles, full synthetic

you can run as long as you want on the same motor oil, recommend you dont go over the limit the manual states or what the oil manufacuter states.

basic rule of thumbs are
regular oil: 2500 miles -+
super/part syntheic: 3k -+
fully syntheic: 5000-+


i use fully syn and change every 4k -+
everyone has different driving habits. some go highway most of the time, some race, etc.

waste that $ dude
 

Ya'll playin right into the oil /filter manufacturers hands...make them millionaires
every 3k is unnessary bro.....

Well driving 120+mile a day, I'm going to guess you do lots of highway driving, in that case I would go 5k, maybe even 6 if you drive with a lite foot and use synthetic

I would rather make them rich than me poor. Can afford a little extra oil, but a new engine install is way to much for me

yeah i go 60 going and 60 back plus some local. i probably change my oil every 2 to 3 months. Just from going by the 5k average. Kinda sux i have a 04 and i have 31k on my car.

The paranoia in this thread is astounding :) Any oil under normal conditions in this car can go 5K miles. If you're autocrossing in the desert you might want to reconsider that, but Honda isn't going to give out BS advice when their reputation is on the line. There's definitely no way I'd change even dino oil BEFORE 3K, that's just insane. I run my Mobil 1 to 5 or 6, which puts me at two oil changes a year. My UOAs come back looking great too.

3K oil changes are called Dealer Added Profits. That's why the dealers keep telling their customers to change every 3K when clearly the manual saids 10K under normal condition. If you drive mostly city driving, then use the severe interval recommended by the manual. It is ridiculous how many people still believe this deceptive mantra. Another thing, use any brand you like as long as the viscosity is correct. All oil has to meet a minimum industry requirements, which is stated in your manual (Read It!). Stick with it and your life will be alot less stressful.

Hummm... my dealer says to do it every 5k. Yet I still go every 3-4k, why, because no body has ever shown me hard proof that it can go 5-6k on organic oil and not cause harm. When many poeple reaches 200k+ mile and only changes their oil every 5k, then I'll do it. Untill then I'll stick with it what works. Yes it is paranoia, peranoia that I may have to change an engine at 100k which is far more costly than changing oils every 3-4k.

i change my oil whenever i feel is needed. i check the dipstick every weekend and if it looks ugly (and i know what used oil looks like compared to new), then ill change it. regardless if i drove only 1000 miles or 5000. when the oil is black or fades closely to black, i will change it.


and 3k oil changes are dealer profits? MAYBE if your bringing it in to the dealer to get it changed. but other than that, not at all.

Ok, kinda newb q, please dont flame...

How many quarts is it for the change, I have been using 4 and check the dipstick and it appears correct, but I can not find anything in the manual that says how many quarts to use (this problem may have somthing to do w/ that fact i got my car w/o one, and hit up ebay for a replacement for $4, so pages may be missing, lol). I not new to cars, just to the civic. Thanks!