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dopes6070 08-12-2006 05:25 PM

Auto Transmission Rebuild (pics)
 
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I thought some of you would like to see what the 2nd gear clutch pack looks like when it’s dead. Note the blue and black friction disks which have no material left...
This is 4th. Notice no discoloration
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155421126

Here is 2nd:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155421042

Disassembled:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155421126

Side by Side good and bad disk:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155421126


Sorry for the not so good pics, I don’t have my digicam rite now so I had to use my phone. I am rebuilding the transmission btw, not a shop. It was HondaLuver's before his swap.

_Viper_ 08-12-2006 06:02 PM

kool

gearbox 08-12-2006 06:45 PM

nice pics. so are they really made of metal? haha

dopes6070 08-12-2006 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by gearbox
nice pics. so are they really made of metal? haha

HAHA ya surprisingly. I figured the transmission was made by playschool. :rofl:

jamesandrew58 08-12-2006 08:01 PM

nice pics.. keep us updated

dopes6070 08-12-2006 09:48 PM

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Here is the ATF filter, check out the black gunk around the edges of the screen. I wiped the center of it clean with a rag.
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155437052

Here is where im stopping till I get the TCI overhaul kit and some OEM honda parts that I ordered.
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155437089

_Viper_ 08-12-2006 09:54 PM

shift kit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gearbox 08-12-2006 10:03 PM

i would recommend getting the oem external filter kit. I've seen it on ebay and after seeing that filter, its a must or the new one will get messed up too.

dopes6070 08-12-2006 10:06 PM

HAHAH I would really like it to shift quicker but this is for my GF's car so I can't have as much fun. At least the TCI overhaul should help a bit.

When I reinstall it im gonna get a transmission cooler and an external filter :) I want this thing to last 300K miles!

I think the main reason these fail is that the clutches are so small and they slip quite a bit just making the shift smooth. Notice the older civics dont have this prob but they shift really hard compared to the 7thgen.

gearbox 08-12-2006 10:14 PM

yea every trans shop tech tells me that its better for it to shift hard. the soft thing is not good for the trans and just some "feature" they did to make people feel better. i only have 50k and mine is slipping pretty bad 2-->3 before the fluid warms up. i've been hearing it maybe has another year left before it wont shift anymore :( and i have a cooler and changed fluid every 10k miles.

Civicman1988 08-12-2006 10:16 PM

write a DiY on this one please

dopes6070 08-12-2006 10:23 PM

LOL its a REALLY big job and will probably take me a couple weeks. I will definatly keep taking pictures but I dont know if this is a DIY type of job. Plus I wouldnt wanna be responsible if someone screwed up their transmission using my DIY. :_doh:. What I will be doing though, is once I put this in my GF's car I will rebuild her origional trans (slips pretty bad going from 1-2) and put it up for sale in socal.

RHCP0801 08-12-2006 10:41 PM

wanna put the overhaul kit in mine ;) :giggle:

mr_fobster 08-12-2006 10:44 PM

wow....have fun gtrying to put it all back together......getting all those clutch packs to line up is a bitch!!! trust me i know, i re-build, overhaul, and diag trans for a living.........

but cool stuff.

dopes6070 08-12-2006 10:49 PM

ya I made sure I could put it back together before I ordered the parts for it. Its a pain.

Mike04Civic 08-12-2006 11:32 PM

they dont make "performance" or "upgraded" gear rings or w/e for the civic do they?......maybe this was a dumb question?:shrug:

dopes6070 08-12-2006 11:39 PM

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if by gear rings you mean the clutch disks then yes the TCI master overhaul kit has those.

Here is an example of the red eagle clutches with the tci kit:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155443870

RHCP0801 08-12-2006 11:44 PM

so what does the tci overhaul kit exactly do?

if you dont mind me asking

dopes6070 08-12-2006 11:55 PM

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It's got all the clutch disks and plates. It also has all the seals o-rings and gaskets to put it back togehter. The clutch disks are what usually wears out in our transmissions.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1155446141

dopes6070 08-13-2006 06:58 PM

Ok guys I have a small debate here.. I can get the OEM Honda transmission cooler for the HX CVT and the HX external filter. Or I can get A B&M cooler and external filter kit to use an engine oil filter.

Part #'s 10 and 14
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...ry5=ATF+COOLER

OR These:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

I am leaning towards this ^^ because it’s cheaper and I like the idea of the fine filter element... I dont know what the OEM filter element is.

gearbox 08-13-2006 07:45 PM

I would try and get a B&M cooler, they will work better than oem due to design. There is an oem filter kit floating around ebay im not able to find it now tho.

Mike04Civic 08-13-2006 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by dopes6070
if by gear rings you mean the clutch disks then yes the TCI master overhaul kit has those.

lol yeah clutch disks - i should know that, just took an automatic transmission class last semester. Made a B in that class....but an A in my manual tran. class :hgrin:

dopes6070 08-15-2006 12:52 PM

The trans cooler and filter should be to my house tomorrow and the overhaul kit by friday. So look forward to some more pics

AzNmiKex215 08-15-2006 01:22 PM

AWESOMENESS!! my uncle came back from vacation about 2 weeks ago, but he didnt get my car towed to the shop till yesterday. LOL

my TCI kit came with a new filter thing too!

i cant wait to see what it shifts like after its rebuilt. Even after that though, im still scared to go turbo :(

eye_see_you 08-15-2006 02:20 PM

I was the first to have the TCI kit installed and was boosting 16 psi along with that. if you just install that kit and fill up with redline fluid you will be good to go for many miles more. The external filter will always help but a tranny cooler I don't see any use for unless its boosted or being driven really hard which we all know the civic is slow

dopes6070 08-15-2006 02:33 PM

I checked the tranny fluid temp and it was very close to 200f so i figured a cooler could help some. (this is with it slipping)

Mike04Civic 08-15-2006 09:28 PM

a Honda dealership wouldnt put this over-haul kit on would they? :shrug:
they wouldnt even put an aftermarket clutch on my brothers 04 vic after he completely destroyed the stock one. :lol:

RHCP0801 08-15-2006 09:41 PM

haha lol i doubt it, unless you know someone who works there and agree to it

crazyasian 08-15-2006 10:36 PM

^yea i highly doubt honda would even do anything. i called a local shop to see how much they would do it(performance shop) and they gave me pretty good quote of about $300.

lookin at the clutch disks and plates i have they arent too big...i hope i did get the right kit. i can grab some pics of the clutches if u guys want. anyone know how big these clutch and plates are? also does anyone know wat rpm the stage 2 of the tc upgrade from level ten is increased by? sorry if this is thread jacking

eye_see_you 08-16-2006 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by RHCP0801
haha lol i doubt it, unless you know someone who works there and agree to it

certain stealerships will if you pay the cost they will also warranty it then but most just stay out of it all together


Originally Posted by crazyasian
^yea i highly doubt honda would even do anything. i called a local shop to see how much they would do it(performance shop) and they gave me pretty good quote of about $300.

lookin at the clutch disks and plates i have they arent too big...i hope i did get the right kit. i can grab some pics of the clutches if u guys want. anyone know how big these clutch and plates are? also does anyone know wat rpm the stage 2 of the tc upgrade from level ten is increased by? sorry if this is thread jacking

the clutch disks are small and as far as the rpm it is not increased unless you got the TCI torque converter


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