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Old May 20, 2003
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B18 in a 7th gen

I heard a lot of talk about this. Has anyone done this and how much work is involved. Id drop a b18 in my car over a k20.
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yes it can be done if done right u just change a lil more stuff
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excuse my question but what are all the advantages of a B swap instead of a K swap?
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B serie engine is a bit more common than the newly K serie engine, maybe cheaper too. One thing u have to consider is that the year of the engine have to be newer than the year of the car for you car to be consider legal in the states. For example, you cannot put a motor from a 2001 ITR into a 2002 Civic.
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yeah i heard that too that u cant put an older engine in a newer car...WTF, o well, i guess i can care less.

i will be saving up my money and get a nice engine. it will take me a while but that is my goal. i WANT it badly.
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haha, I am with you konstanting. It will take me a few years before I have enough to get a new K serie engine. But it kinda sucks when my car have no engine mods except a "ghetto" intake because i don't want to buy anything that i have to take out later.
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isnt there more mods to b engine then k engine rite now
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of course there is more mods for the b series right now...the K series has only been out for maybe 2 years...i know a B18 VTEC motor has been out since atleast 95. The K series is the way of the future, Honda did its homework before puttin it together. Just slap on any mod on that motor, and look at the responce that it has. They havent seen boosts in power like this out of any B series thats for sure. Plus the K20A2 has 200hp...the best a b series can do is 195hp in the type R motor.
Stick with the K series, you will be suprised. And companies have huge plans for the motor, its just that most of the parts are still being made, but even now, you can get most anything on the k series that you can get on a B series. Supercharger? Jackson Racing will have it out in June (talked with them myself about it), Turbo...talk about 260-270WHP from 5 psi., cams, flywheels, intake, race headers, exhausts, ECU upgrades....as i stated before, its only been out for 2 years and look at the attention its getting. I think "B-series what?"
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Originally posted by NoBottleJustThrottle
of course there is more mods for the b series right now...the K series has only been out for maybe 2 years...i know a B18 VTEC motor has been out since atleast 95. The K series is the way of the future, Honda did its homework before puttin it together. Just slap on any mod on that motor, and look at the responce that it has. They havent seen boosts in power like this out of any B series thats for sure. Plus the K20A2 has 200hp...the best a b series can do is 195hp in the type R motor.
Stick with the K series, you will be suprised. And companies have huge plans for the motor, its just that most of the parts are still being made, but even now, you can get most anything on the k series that you can get on a B series. Supercharger? Jackson Racing will have it out in June (talked with them myself about it), Turbo...talk about 260-270WHP from 5 psi., cams, flywheels, intake, race headers, exhausts, ECU upgrades....as i stated before, its only been out for 2 years and look at the attention its getting. I think "B-series what?"
Or all motor... I forget who built it... might have been Toda, but they built a stroked 2.4L DC5-R for Time Attack in Japan.... thing is a frickin monster.
But I agree... starting stock with 200 HP and an extra 200cc displacement, this should be a no brainer decision. Besides, as the B gets older, fewer parts will continue to come out, the engines will become harder to find and more expensive... meanwhile the K will be running in full swing. If I do actually do a swap ( a few years off for sure), it'd be a K20A2, or an equivelant plant, should a new, better one get released later.
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Originally posted by fastcivic01
yes it can be done if done right u just change a lil more stuff
Wow with your response, I'm sure convinced it can be done.
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If someone's made engine mounts for the B18 (or you get custom mounts) you can do it. It would also be advisable to change the tranny & axles, apart from the suspension & other bits.. (this motor is heaver than a K20) just my .02 cents
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I just asked because i can get a b18 with upgraded internals for about 4000 installed. But that price was for a 96-00 civic swap. How much more do you think they would charge me for my 01 civic.
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Originally posted by tdiddy
I just asked because i can get a b18 with upgraded internals for about 4000 installed. But that price was for a 96-00 civic swap. How much more do you think they would charge me for my 01 civic.
I'm pretty sure it will cost a lot more. Later civic models have bigger engine bays and already have mounts out for that engine.
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It would be better to find a used or wrecked 6th gen and put it in that. That would be your best option instead of putting it in your 7th gen. My .02 cents!
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Wow, this thread topic still comes out?
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Originally posted by konstanting
yeah i heard that too that u cant put an older engine in a newer car...WTF, o well, i guess i can care less.
my thoughts exactly. whats the cop gonna do radio in your engine vin?
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Wow with your response, I'm sure convinced it can be done.
hahahahaha.....
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I heard K20 swaps can run you about 10k.
For 10k I'd rather build my SOHC D17.
All turbo motor, dumping anywhere between 300-350hp.
Get a SF turbo kit, few internals (when they come out), dial up the boost, and watch. And if you are really into it, search for LSD.
Its easy to achive that with DOHC.
But it takes ***** to have SOHC built like that
Much, much sweeter ...
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the only swap that i have heard of that took 10 grand was the very first one by HTown...and of course this is going to be really expensive, he probably had the most labor done on his car, and with all the custom stuff...im actually suprised it didnt cost more.
Now that the mount kit is out, swaps are going as low as 5 grand if not lower. I just depends on the motor that you get. My swap with everything is gonna cost a little under 5 grand. Just thought that you should know
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Originally posted by LikeWEEEEEEEEEE
my thoughts exactly. whats the cop gonna do radio in your engine vin?
Lol. Your member of the family sig is absolutely hilarious. At first I thought it was directed at everyone who's doing it, but then I realized about half way down your were describing FlyRiceRacer02. You could very well be making fun of everyone also, but even so I'll still laugh. Has fly made a comment yet about it?
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No cop will caer but the people for inspection are going to fine you out the butt and then make it so you can't drive your car!!
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Originally posted by JDog2001CivicEX
No cop will caer but the people for inspection are going to fine you out the butt and then make it so you can't drive your car!!
Thats when you lay down $300 to have them look the other way
Thats just what im gonna do, i was gonna have it all legal and what not, but its too much trouble, plus i want a race header on my car after i do my swap...mmm 16whp just from a header....mmmmm.
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Originally posted by Kairi
Wow, this thread topic still comes out?
YEA
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The problem still remians about the money. The K20a run around 7k for the engine alone, but the JDM B18c1 runs for about 2.3k with 180hp, with the money you save you could do quite a bit but as alot of people have said before "If you have the money, do it right the first time". But still paying 7k for an engine still makes me quiver but wait a few years. =p

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Originally posted by Texas Rice
The K20a run around 7k for the engine alone
7 grand for just the engine? Where have you been looking??

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30011
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Yeah, you need to look around more. Some people have mentioned on the site that they have bought one or have seen one for $4,000 now. The price has gone down quite a bit. Do more searching.
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i bought my motor, with everything out of the RSX for $3800...way to go EBay.
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