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Listen guys, this is my first post, so be easy... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG] Basically, I want to put new 6/9's in the rear and 6.5 upfront and leave the stock tweeters and add an AMP. ( By the way , I got a '02 coupe) . What do you guys think?? Pioneer TS-A1680R 6.5" 4-Way 220 Watt Speakers , Features Max Power: 220 Watts (50 Watts Normal), Frequency Response: 30 Hz - 30 kHz Sensitivity: 91 dB Impedance: 4 Ohms.
Kenwood KFC-6908 6" x 9" 4-Way Speaker 4-Way, 4-Speaker System, 6" x 9" Frequency Response: 28Hz - 30kHz, Impedance: 4 ohms ,Magnet Weight: 12 oz, Power Handling: 220 Watts ,Sensitivity: 93dB
And Finally, Pioneer GM-X564 4-Channel Amplifier 480 Watt Max. 4-Channel Amplifier with Built-In Crossover. Features 50 watts RMS x 4 @ 4 ohms/ 60 watts x 4 @ 2 ohms/ 120 watts x 2 in bridged mode .

If I crank it up to high? do u think i'll blow the amp, or the stock tweeters?? Also, I need to buy 2 RCA converters, because it is 4 channel AMP is that true? What do you guys think of that combination?? I'm alittle confused, what else do I need besides the converters? I don't understand about the whole grounding thing. How much do you figure the installation for the whole thing will be??

Listen, I know I sound like a moron, but its a bit confusing when your first time.

 
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I like the 6908s, but that's just me

Get a component set for your front, don't run your stock tweets. Get something like the Infinity 605cs if you are on a budget they run for $99 on ebay...

Around here they install amps for $60, rear speakers for $30, and Components in the front for $60.

Add a little more since they'll have to get into your stock HU and bring the line inputs from upfront to the amp...

 
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What do the line inputs do0?? by the way, thanks for helping me out...
Is it true that I need to connect somthing to the battary? and drill a hole to my HU? I'm kinda on a budget so0, do you think if i just get reegular tweeters, not components and put them in , it will work fine? I think it might not be worth it if i add components because I got a stock system.
thanks for your help.

 
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Don't get 6.5's for the front and leave the stock tweeters in.
the coaxial 6.5's have tweeter built in and you will get horrible
canceling and the such. You have to run a power cable from your
battery to the amp for it to get power. Do some more research
before you set up yer system and then put it in yourself. A ground
is a wire from the amp to the frame of the car. When you have
power coming into the amp it needs a way to discharge all the
electrons coming in which the ground takes care of. The stock
headunit will likely cause clipping at higher volumes which is why
I got a HU b4 anything else (not mentioning mp3 support).
Also remember there is RMS and peak power. Ignore peak, RMS is
what matters. Get good components, a HU and an amp if you are on
a budget. Forget the 6x9's. They are useless unless you are in the
backseat. And remember learn everything you can befre you buy.
There are enough lousy systems around that attest to the utter
ignorance of people. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
Hopefully that makes sense..... I rant and ramble quite a bit.... not an
audio pro like some of the other peole around here either but this is what
I have gleaned thus far from the lovely patrons of the 7thgencivic ICE forum. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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thanks for the info... but the thing is, I had a Kenwood HU, and it was stolen , about a month ago,I live in New York City, its like 20 below zer0 here... I was driving on the highway at 30 MPH.. people were honking and everything, I had the heater up at full. ( I defenitly don't want to go threw that again) they broke my glass and ripped out my entire center counsel, messed up my wireing and everything.. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] Thats why i wanted to change the 6 speakers and add an amplifier to "amplify" the sound.I'm kinda worried now to add a new HU.. But now i'm alittle confused? should I not change the speakers and just add an Amp? won't they blow up? Or, change the speakers and add an amp? now i'm kinda back were I started... i'm sooo confusedddd... !!

do you think it will produce go0d sound?? if I change the speakers and add an amp? will it mess up the stock HU?
thannkss guys (o''o)

 
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Theres an order to get things done ... you generally need a good HU to produce good sound.

The stock HU will have higher than average distortion ... which will get amplified by the new amp ..... and then you'll have amplified distortion going to the speakers.

Get things in this order .....
1) HU
2) Front Speakers
3) Amp for fronts
4) Sub and Amp
5) Rears (if you even feel the need at that point)

Get a detachable face ....... then again your in the city and just ****eD man ....

 
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get an eclipse HU

From what I understand (not speaking from experience), if stolen within 1 year, they'll give you a new one

 
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Thanks guys, I really do appriciate the input. Hey, Aldini.... I called up Kenwood and kinda hinted that If my HU was stolen, was there any chance that I would get a replacment for free? guess what?? The guy just laughted....
Oh well? it was worth a sh0t. One last question guys... so, i'm still abit confused. Do you think I should just get component speakers for for the 6.5's and the tweeters? and add a 2 channel amplifier? and leave the 6/9's stock and the honda HU?? i'm kinda on a bugget

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I know Eclipse is the only company with that kind of warranty I think...

Get Component 6.5s for the front and a 2 channel amp, if you have subs disconnect your rear speakers, otherwise leave them plugged in...

 
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you can definitely just leave out the 6x9's for now... (one less thing to steal, right?? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-nono.gif[/IMG] ) anyway, that's what i'm doin too. the rears don't do as much for the sound as the 6.5's up front. buy a pair of 6.5's you like and use the stock rears. you'll be fine. you can always put different 6x9's in later if you want more rear fill or whatever.

sorry to hear about your car man... its always sad to hear when a car gets f'd up for a dumb reason...

 
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I need some help installing rear speakers?

 
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You sound just like me several months ago. I have kept the stock HU and I am VERY stubborn about it. I won't deny that a good headunit will sound cleaner than the stock but I know people who have heard my system with the stock headunit and they are always impressed with how good my setup sounds for the amount of money I've spent on it. I am also not an expert with car audio but I do have some suggestions for you.

Anyways, that being said, I would definately go with the infinity components up front. Go to www.ikesound.com and order the Infinity Reference 605CS speakers. They fit pretty well up front with no modifications to the doors. The shop that installs them will just need to use a spacer for them. The components will sound a lot better than keeping the stock tweeters will and the components will only run around $110 from ike with free shipping and they will warranty your speakers for 3 years. I've already dealt with them for customer service and they've been great. For the rear speakers the pioneer speakers would sound fine as long as they fit (I don't know about those personally). I would get a different amp that does around 50 watts rms x 4, because I had almost this same setup. I bought a pioneer amp, infinity components, and pioneer 6x9s. I wish I had not bought the pioneer amp. There are much better quality amps out there for what you'll pay for the pioneer. Besides, even though your on a budget and your just starting out you'll probably end up wanting to upgrade later to better stuff. Aside from the components you'll have to buy a wiring kit for your amp, you can order that from ikesound.com as well for less than you'll pay in the store, and you will need line out converters which will probably run about 20 bucks a piece and you need 2. I hope I covered everything. If you need help I can probably offer some advice as I have kept the stock HU as well. Most people on here will say thats a bad idea but I have reasons for not getting an aftermarket HU and I'm very stubborn about it. If you have any questions email me or PM me. Good luck!

 
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dups, what did you do to your tweeters?

 
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More newbie questions. Sorry I have spent the last 2 hours searching and looking through a few forums. This thread is super helpful.

Right now I have enough money for a HU and front speakers. Following those steps can I run Infinity 605cs without an amp and what will the difference be with/without?

 
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Yes you COULD run the infinity 605cs off of the HU, but I would only do it temporarily. You could do it as long as you plan to get an amp very soon, and just becareful not to turn it up too loud. Just listen for distortion in your speakers and as long as there isn't much distortion you'll be alright. My tweeters are mounted in the OEM tweeter pods on a Coupe. The order you have is exactly right if you're going to upgrade your entire system. I did mine a little backwards. I did the rears first (because I already had them laying around), then a few months later I did the fronts and installed amps for the speakers, and then a sub with a new amp.

 
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Thanks dups. Are your tweeters OEM?

 
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no, tweeters are part of the Infinity Reference 605cs Components

 
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not to beat a dead horse...

i going to go in that same order. however, i've already purchased the alpine cda-7894 deck with the internal amp, and i plan on purchasing some fronts (most likely those) relatively soon. but then im saving up for amp for fronts and sub (jl 450/4; 12" type r subs(2) it will take awhile). will it sound fine? *n00b*

edit: (somehow i think that word saves us from getting scorched )

 
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yeah it will work, you can run those speakers off the alpine HU but its not going to sound as good without an amp. Just make sure you watch your volume levels, and listen for distortion so you don't blow the speakers.

 
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Hey Dups,

To mount your tweeters in the OEM pods (I have a civic '03 ex coupe) did you have to do any modifications, or did the ones from the 605cs set fit? Also, where did you mount your xovers, and lastly, any difference between 605cs and 6000cs?

 
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I'm not familiar with the 6000cs, so I really don't know about that. I had no problems really mounting my tweeters into the stock tweeter pods. The 605cs tweeters came with their own mounting this for putting them in places, I took one of those parts if I remember correctly and screwed it into the tweeter pod and then the infinity tweeter sort snaps into that or something. Thats kinda how I did it. When you actually start doing it if you run into problems let me know and I'll try to explain it better or help you. OH, and about the crossovers. I originally mounted the crossovers behind the speaker in the door (which is a big nono) and I just recently relocated them. I ended up hiding the passenger side one behind the kick panel down and I have the drivers side crossover mounted the knee panel about the drivers feet using pieces of velcrow (sp?). Anyways, hope that helps some. I can take pictures of some stuff I did maybe in a while, let me know if you need more help.

 
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THanks, I'll think I'll try and fiddle with mounting in the OEM pods. Were you able to access all the wiring for the door speaker and tweeter behind the kick panels for both passenger and driver sides?

 
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I didn't try to access the wiring. I ran whole new wiring because I amped the speakers. If you amp those speakers your going to have to run new wire to go from the amp through the rubber grommet in the door hinge into the door. Unless somebody else knows something I don't about the wiring.