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Is this a good price?


Front progress anti-roll bar ( 27mm ) 149$ !!!!

Rear progress anti-roll bar ( 22mm ) 181.95$ !!!!

Tell me what you think!!!

Eric

 
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Not bad I guess, but for us north of the border with the exchange rate, it sucks.
I might have to get those though, because Neuspeed is taking too long to get theirs out.

 
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Do these bars really make a huge difference. I'm getting a good setup for suspension and all, and front and rear strut bars, but will it make a noticable difference with these too?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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I can't tell u for sure that they do a huge difference...but I heard and read that they are the best thing we can spend money for in suspension....!!!!
There is some people in here that have them....maybe we should pm them to ask them!!


--Not bad I guess, but for us north of the border with the exchange rate, it sucks.

Yeahhh exchange always suck...but hey...we can't do anything about that fact!!!!

Hey you are from New Brunswick cool!!! I haven't noticed it!!!! For sure this summer we'll have to meet!!! So the car is in storage now? Good choice for the body kit canadian brother!!!!!!!

Eric

 
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I've got the progress rear 22mm bar and it helped stiffen up the rear end a lot, i really like how it feels taking corners... I didn't know the front was out but I guess maybe I'll have to get that too!

 
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Other than springs and shocks, the rear Progress sway bar was the most noticable bolt-on piece that I've installed thus far. There's no question that it's worth the money. Quality is excellent and it fits PERFECTLY!

Terry

 
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The rear one will make a HUGE difference.

Right now I don't see the point of a front one if you lower your car low enough (in the front). However I do like some of the underbody stabilizers in the front and from what I heard, those could be better.

 
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That's an okay price, but go to clubrsx.com and search for threads with "progress" and "sway" in them. Find one where they talk about the best place to buy one from. You can get the rear for like $150 + whatever shipping is. I think that's the best price there is for the rear one. Not sure about the front, but if you call up the place listed in the thread they may hook you up with a good deal on both of them.

 
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Thanks!!!!

Eric

 
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it'll definitely stiffen things up quite a bit.

I'm sure everyone will feel the difference. If I felt a difference with my 19mm rear RSX.. then 22mm has to do some trick...

I still think its cheaper to go for a 22mm rear Type R sway bar... but I guess the progress comes with its own integrated tie-bar...

as for the front... woah. 27mm. heh. thats hardcore.

*shrug* if you want to take those corners like you're on rail, I suppose this will help... I wonder if the front sub frame will tolerate that though..

 
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Link to the thread in clubrsx.com forum.

 
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Can anyone explain the purpose of the front sway bar? The point of the rear sway was to neutralize the car on turns by balancing the transfer of weight to the wheels...this is what I thought anyways. So if we stiffen up the front again, won't that kinda counter the purpose of the rear sway bar. I heard that fwd cars are understeer biased, so I thought the best thing to do was to stiffen the rear and leave the front stock to make the car more neutral.

But in RWD cars, the ride is biased for oversteer, so a thicker front sway bar would make perfect sense. I think I read this info from Club-RSX, so please correct me if I've been reading the wrong info.

Duy

 
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No, you're basically right. I calculated a while back that the perfect combination of sway bar sizes for our Civics in back while keeping the front the same would be a little over 19mm. I took into account that the front is a solid bar and that the back is a hollow bar, so my calculation is pretty accurate. Actually, 19mm is a little too little stiffness. 22mm is a little too much. I don't think I calculated the stiffness to weight ratio's of 27mm up front and 22mm in back. Although if 22mm was a little too stiff for our 24mm bars up front then 27mm should be a better choice.

Anyway, the stiffer the sway bars are while maintaining a good stiffness to weight ratio in front and in back the better. Less lean during cornering. A sway bar is basically a spring. If you lift up the front of the car (or the back) and the car is anchored in place so that it doesn't move at all and you took out the springs and the struts; you can lift up one wheel and you'll see the other one go down just as much. This is good for cornering. When the car wants to lean to one side, the springs (sway bars) transfers that force to the other side and keeps the car more flat.

We have the sway bars only in front (2001 DX & LX, 2002 DX) because that's where most of the weight is. The designers didn't care much about oversteer or understeer (that's only a side effect of an improperly balanced counter-lean. They cared more for counterinf lean itself. Where do you do it with the most effect on the ride? Where the weight is! Our cars have more weight up front than in back, so that's why that happened...

 
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Actually what the swaybar does is lift the inside wheel up when going into a turn. When turning, the outside wheel compresses upwards, and the swaybar will pull the inside wheel up also which reduces body roll. If the inside wheel was to be pushed down, this would increase body roll.

 
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Whoops! Yeah, I got it backwards.

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The sway bars give somewhat though, so the amount of lean is controlled. A thicker diameter sway bar cancels out more lean than a thinner diameter one. A solid sway bar cancels out more than a hollow one. Although the best weight to performance ratio you can get is a thick sway bar that's hollow. Then it'll be both light and stiff.

 
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for proper performance though some body lean is needed for proper weight transfer to the gripping tires.....