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okie dokie pple... i'm confused. maybe you can help... WHATS THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN STRUT BARS AND SWAY BARS?! i need my car to preform during turns, but i cant find sway bars anywhere... so i turned to strut bars realizing i didn't knoe wth they were. k thanX f0r a lookin'!

 
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Strut bars tie the 2 sides together. There are upper front, and upper rear. They link the strut towers together. Tie bars link the sides of the lower suspension together. The sway bars are more like heavy duty springs that are attached to the lower suspension (front and back (EX and 02+ LX) They keep the car stable laterally. It will flatten out the rear of the car when you turn by preventing the arms of the lower suspension from traveling to far relative to each other.
For sway bars, if your car already has one, then you can swap it for the RSX-S bar or the Progress Group Anti Sway bar kit.
Strut bars... there are tons, everything from ebay cheapies to the Neuspeed bar, which is all welded with jointless construction. It's not the most expensive, but seems to be the best.

 
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go to the parts section and type in rsx sway bar. that fits our cars. the difference is i believe is your talking about an upper strut bar that goes into your engine on the towers and strengthens the suspension up front. i think im right.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] not really a techie about this stuff. as for the sway bar you put that in the back of the car near the muffler. in that general area. that will prevent understeer i think. help me out guys.

 
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Get an RSX Type S Sway Bar (19mm). I heard comments like "by far the best suspension mod ever!!!!!" "a must get"

I'm getting one for $50 with brushings. Hondawerx.com sells for $82 shipped (i think). Once you get it.......TopFuel and I can help ya install it. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

-ak
clubrsx.com

 
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i think i found the rsx rear swaybar @ Majestic Honda REAR SWAY BAR

please let me know if it's the right one ........

btw, the prod.# is 35902 and Illustration No. 5 ..... for $60.16

 
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You also need the brushings. 6,7,8,30,and some other stuff that i forgot.

$65 shipped from here..... you will still need some other stuff (i think)

 
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sway bars do more than sturt bars[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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hey thanx so much guyS!! you really answered my question. so now i'm going to go get my RSX sway bar, but at the same time can i get all 3 strut bars? i thinking about DC

 
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Yea, you can still get all 3. get the tie bar first though, it'll help with the sway bar.

 
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someone on clubrsx is trying to sell theres, he's in socali too. if your interested, let me know n i'll give you his info or i'll ask how much he wants it for.

and why DC? neuspeeds are cheaper and look like a more solid peice compared to dc.

 
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oh yah could you ask your friend how much he wants for his rsx sway? umm dc cuz they look "pretty" (haha i noe i noe)

 
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ok, the people who replied earlier were right, but i dont think they explained it enough.

a sway bar, is a piece of spring steel, the same stuff springs are made of. it runs from one lower control arm to the other and prevents excessive body roll when cornering, thicker ones are stiffer, thats why people replace them.

strut bars tie the two strut towers together and reduce body FLEX, that is the uni-body actually twists(although not very much, but its enough to hinder performance). an upper front does the most, followed by the rear two. from what i have been seeing, Neuspeed has a front lower tie bar in the works. that will go from lower control arm to lower control arm, similar to the sway bar, but it prevents the struts from moving.

baisicly sway bars(aka: anti-roll bars) prevent reduce body roll, and strut/tie bars, reduce flex.

am i making sense man, hope i could help ya.

 
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it's WOMAN! and ya so then i can get all 4 rite? rsx sway bar and dc or neuspeed ties?

 
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sorry, i didnt know, but yeah, thats ideal. what do you want from your suspension? if i know this i can probably help you more, and im sure others will be able to also.

btw, if you dont feel like spending the money for all four, you can just get the upper front, that does the most for your car.

 
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haha i wanna be able to turn goin' 60 mph and feel safe.

 
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sorry but you wont be able to take it with stock springs/shocks... most improvement your going to get is by lower your car... then sway bars... oh and sorry i have yet to get a reply from that guy.. i think nytryder got it...

 
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okie okie new springs and a sway bar? will that do it? wink wink

 
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My suspension set up is pretty much Yokohama Avid tires (195-60) coilovers (ground control) and a rear ANTI sway bar... along with a camber kit but that's very minimal to performance and everyday driving. (Sorry to get technical. I just think it's silly when people call it a sway bar when it's an anti-sway bar... sway bar sounds like it's meant to make the car sway... heh).

What do I think of just springs and anti sway bar? I think that my car's suspension is spectacular. The only thing that would make it more comfortably stiffer are stiffer shocks/struts but regardless the car still handles like a dream. Instead of a 19mm anti sway bar, I have the thicker 22mm rear anti sway bar. I can make the sharpest turns at ususual speeds without having to sway side to side. I highly recommend a 22mm bar if you're willing to deal with the additional stiffness in the rear wheels.

And our knowledgable suspension moderator is right. With a larger rear anti sway bar without the drop, you promote oversteer which can be ugly.

The best way to bring your ride to it's center off gravity is to modify the suspension in this order:

1. Wider tires and/or lower profile tires (wider and with a less profile than stock which is 185-65... if you plan to be on 15s, I suggest a 195-60 or 195-55 tire.)
2. Lowering Springs/coilovers/airbags
3. Aftermarket struts (if not included with coilover setup)
4. Anti sway bars and strut bars and tie bars

 
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Me too [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]

I recommend you don't drop more than 1.75" because you (partially) have the oem kit

 
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i forgot to add that i was broke lol. eek i was gonna wait to lower my car because of the stupid warrenty.. but i guess its inevitable!

 
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ak, she said taking at turn at 60 mph not going straight... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
heres my order
1) drop(oh and airbags arent always good, some setups suck. such as a front/back setup compared to f/b/s/s
2) Low pro/wider tires
3) shocks
4) sway bar(eh, too lazy to put anti all the time, you know what i mean anyways)
5) tie bar
6) front strut bar

since your broke i would just get springs $210 installed
RSX sway bar, around $50... someone here said you dont really need a tie bar for 19mm but might need one for 22mm.. not too sure about sway bars...
tie bar- since you wanted dc, those got for around 100.

 
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c0ol thanx a lot!! haha out of all the answers.. yours was the clearest!

 
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Try taking 90 degree turns at 25-30 mph in my car. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] There's virtually no body roll and no loss of traction from my tires (Yokohamas). Hell, taking slight turns at 90 MPH still keeps the car *neutral* so I say if you want *no body roll* plus more enjoying drivability (for the speed you can get out of a Civic), get a 22mm anti sway bar. It's a very impressive suspension modification.

Heh, well I studied about anti sway bars. Anything over 20mm is going to add pressure to the crossmember... so much that it will begin to rip it off the subframe over a period of time. Thus, the rear lower tie bar is the remedy. To simply understand this, click here. These can be *very* cheap as most of them function the same except Neuspeed's.

 
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well i guess a rsx-s sway bar would be perfect then. cause its 19mm right? i think the rsx-r is 22mm. would there even be a big difference between a 19mm and 22mm?

 
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I think so. I say this because I've never heard anyone complain about their 22mm anti sway bar and truthfully no one should (I would dare speak for anyone with this mod). I know there was someone here who wanted to move up from Type S to Type R anti sway bar. Both offer what the stock one could not but I can say that for sure the 22mm one was worth the $145 I paid for it.

The 19mm one I discovered can be found as cheap as $50-$80. What I wonder is if people with the Type S are selling theirs for a 22mm (or thicker) one to make the 19mm one so cheap? The price for the 22mm one just went up to $175! No idea if Progress' 22mm one with tie bar is still around $140.

And I guess if there was no difference, you'd find a 19mm bar on the Type R but every part on that car pretty much makes it what it is.


That thing doesn't bend for sheit.

 
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$50? where? where?

 
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well there probably is a difference but is it a realy big difference? and is the difference $100 worth? to me it isnt... i'll settle for a 19mm one. ya 19mm type s ones goes for $50 used and i wouldnt doubt a 22mm type r one goes for 150. but that new and its type r.. you know how alot of people are crazy for type r products. i think this one rsx site(i think it was a sister site to majestic honda) has the type s sway bar for 70 new....

but ya you could find the 19mm type s sway bar for $50 at clubrsx.com.... plenty of people seling theirs

 
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sigh.. no money hahahaha c i wanna know where its at so that when i do get money i can get it.. but for now.. throw pennies at meeh

 
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I really wish I could do a real-life comparison (I've been longing to) but I don't know anyone with the 19mm one except a handfull of Type S owners. It wouldn't be a fair comparison with the Civic and the RSX due to the benefit of the Civic being lighter.

I'll check if anyone in the NO Cali section has it and see if they'd be interested in doing a comparison with me. If possible It'll be a review (or two) so you can get more than one person's perspective. I'm going to expect my car to be the superior one in the handling department. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]