vtec head swap to lx (searched)
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vtec head swap to lx (searched)
ok it's been a while since anyone has updated the thread on the EX VTEC Head Swap to LX,
are these the only parts you will need to complete the swap? head, ecu, vtec solenoid and wiring harness.
i don't need opinions on how its a waste of money or its not worth it, its just a project i'd like to do so please don't flame me [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
anyone who could provide me with some more information please let me know. thank you in advanced....
are these the only parts you will need to complete the swap? head, ecu, vtec solenoid and wiring harness.
i don't need opinions on how its a waste of money or its not worth it, its just a project i'd like to do so please don't flame me [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
anyone who could provide me with some more information please let me know. thank you in advanced....
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Rep Power: 0 you'd probably want to get the springs, valves, retainers, and vtec camshaft off of the ex too...i'm not sure but you might need to get an oil line as well...i now you needed one for the ls/vtec swap.
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Rep Power: 420 Well... The ECU will have different programming. That's a definate. Although who knows? Maybe the non-VTEC ECU's already have this programming and it actually tells the non-existant solenoid to turn on. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] You need to check out the part numbers on a site like www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
The pistons are probably the same. It's the head that makes the compression a little different. I think the valves will be easily transferable. They're probably the same. Same with the valve springs. The cam shaft is different. The rocker arms are different.
You'll need that VTEC solenoid as well.
I think I'll check out the www.hondaautomotiveparts.com site and report back to you in this thread with the details. I'm curious as to what the price would be.
The pistons are probably the same. It's the head that makes the compression a little different. I think the valves will be easily transferable. They're probably the same. Same with the valve springs. The cam shaft is different. The rocker arms are different.
You'll need that VTEC solenoid as well.
I think I'll check out the www.hondaautomotiveparts.com site and report back to you in this thread with the details. I'm curious as to what the price would be.
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Rep Power: 420 Okay, the camshaft costs: $219
The cylinder head costs: $699
Something called "VALVE ASSY., SPOOL": $89 each (need 4?)
Engine wire harness: $10
The ECU: $399
Oil pan: $92
"ARM B COMP., EX. ROCKER": $18 (need 8?)
"ARM A COMP., EX. ROCKER": $18 (need 8?)
"ORIFICE ASSY., OIL PATH": $5 (need 4?)
"O-RING (7X1.7)": $1 (need 4?)
"SPRING, IN. VALVE (WHITE) (NIPPON HATSUJO)" $5 (need 8?)
That's all I could find. I couldn't find any information on any VTEC solenoid. The total just on this page is: $2127 Although I think you can leave some stuff out if you have the right tools. The bigger oil pan isn't necessary, but it helps. Might wait for Morosso instead. The ECU might not be necessary if you could reprogram it or if it's really the same (the wiring harness may take care of this problem). The cylinder head looks the same. I wonder what's different about it? Maybe nothing much. Maybe the differences are machnieable? Who knows... Someone with the cash should buy an LX and an EX and try to convert the LX into the EX by swapping. That would be interesting. Then we'de know for sure...
Note: Prices are rounded off to nearest dollar.
The cylinder head costs: $699
Something called "VALVE ASSY., SPOOL": $89 each (need 4?)
Engine wire harness: $10
The ECU: $399
Oil pan: $92
"ARM B COMP., EX. ROCKER": $18 (need 8?)
"ARM A COMP., EX. ROCKER": $18 (need 8?)
"ORIFICE ASSY., OIL PATH": $5 (need 4?)
"O-RING (7X1.7)": $1 (need 4?)
"SPRING, IN. VALVE (WHITE) (NIPPON HATSUJO)" $5 (need 8?)
That's all I could find. I couldn't find any information on any VTEC solenoid. The total just on this page is: $2127 Although I think you can leave some stuff out if you have the right tools. The bigger oil pan isn't necessary, but it helps. Might wait for Morosso instead. The ECU might not be necessary if you could reprogram it or if it's really the same (the wiring harness may take care of this problem). The cylinder head looks the same. I wonder what's different about it? Maybe nothing much. Maybe the differences are machnieable? Who knows... Someone with the cash should buy an LX and an EX and try to convert the LX into the EX by swapping. That would be interesting. Then we'de know for sure...
Note: Prices are rounded off to nearest dollar.
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Rep Power: 420 Much better idea! You might not even need the EX's ECU. Just that engine wiring harness... That's so freaky that they only want $900 for it! If the engine wasn't worn in well, then just buy the whole thing abd part it out... Much easier to compare two engines side by side for differences than to try and figure out what the differences are over the net. Now it's much more viable.
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Rep Power: 317 If I were to swap a motor or heads, I'd go all the way and do the RSX swap. This guy on eBay has a swap for sale and they'll do the work! Even includes the 6-sp transmission. eBay 2002 ACURA RSX TYPE-S ENGINE SWAP!
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Rep Power: 0 my point for posting this thread was to get information about my head swap, obviosuly i dont have that kinda money right now to dish out on a k20 swap or i wouldnt have asked about this, sorry if i sound like an *** but im grouchy cuz i havnt slept 
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Rep Power: 0 why swap the LX for the EX ...earlier threads had been talkin bout this already...THE V-tec on the new ex are basically worthless...i believe i read some where be4 that the LX runs faster then the EX but i could be wrong...but im pretty sure..
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[hr]Originally posted by: aznboy808
you'd probably want to get the springs, valves, retainers, and vtec camshaft off of the ex too...i'm not sure but you might need to get an oil line as well...i now you needed one for the ls/vtec swap.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: aznboy808
you'd probably want to get the springs, valves, retainers, and vtec camshaft off of the ex too...i'm not sure but you might need to get an oil line as well...i now you needed one for the ls/vtec swap.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 there is a guy from this website ditching his EX d17a2 w/ many mods such as the GUDE head package and a series of other components, and im pretty sure hes sellin it for cheap. not sure if hes posted it yet because i dont think his K20 is in yet.
but on a different note, like someone has prolly already mentioned, the VTEC really isnt that significant, and prolly not even worth the money to try to do a head conversion from the EX onto the LX block. you might get a nicer ratio in compression with a lil more HP than of the base EX, but all together, its better just to build up your LX with all the internals and externals. maybe go for the TURBO at some point.
just to throw this out, but my LX w/ the HP 4-1 Race Header can beat both the EX Coupe or Sedan. the LX really isnt that bad of a platform comparitively speakin to the EX, however if your interested in doing some serious engine changing, just go with a completely different engine. go get yourself a B16 or something and start workin on a swap.
but on a different note, like someone has prolly already mentioned, the VTEC really isnt that significant, and prolly not even worth the money to try to do a head conversion from the EX onto the LX block. you might get a nicer ratio in compression with a lil more HP than of the base EX, but all together, its better just to build up your LX with all the internals and externals. maybe go for the TURBO at some point.
just to throw this out, but my LX w/ the HP 4-1 Race Header can beat both the EX Coupe or Sedan. the LX really isnt that bad of a platform comparitively speakin to the EX, however if your interested in doing some serious engine changing, just go with a completely different engine. go get yourself a B16 or something and start workin on a swap.
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Rep Power: 0 i don't care for the b16 - that engine has no torque
if i was to swap an engine in i'd like to have an h22 - i hope someday someone tries it so there will be information on this subject
if i was to swap an engine in i'd like to have an h22 - i hope someday someone tries it so there will be information on this subject
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Rep Power: 0 and i'd still like to know how to get a hold of the HP 4-1 Race Header with Hi-Flow Cat - i cant seem to find there phone number or a retailer here that sells them - any help will be greatly appriciated
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Rep Power: 0 Even though the B16 has not much of torque its still lighter then the h22...i know alotta people here up north who's tryin to sell their h22 for a b-series or even a D-series..hey thats only my opinion...i just like the hp to weight ratio to be nice and even.....and yea like blue said...a LX platform is a better way to go then the lazy v-tec of the EX....in the 1/4 mile a ran faster then the ex coupe by .21 of a second or however you say it...but i ran faster then him when we were both stock...
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[hr]Originally posted by: XxPloSiv2k1Lx
Even though the B16 has not much of torque its still lighter then the h22...i know alotta people here up north who's tryin to sell their h22 for a b-series or even a D-series..hey thats only my opinion...i just like the hp to weight ratio to be nice and even.....and yea like blue said...a LX platform is a better way to go then the lazy v-tec of the EX....in the 1/4 mile a ran faster then the ex coupe by .21 of a second or however you say it...but i ran faster then him when we were both stock...[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: XxPloSiv2k1Lx
Even though the B16 has not much of torque its still lighter then the h22...i know alotta people here up north who's tryin to sell their h22 for a b-series or even a D-series..hey thats only my opinion...i just like the hp to weight ratio to be nice and even.....and yea like blue said...a LX platform is a better way to go then the lazy v-tec of the EX....in the 1/4 mile a ran faster then the ex coupe by .21 of a second or however you say it...but i ran faster then him when we were both stock...[hr]
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