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Hi Guys,

Im trying to change my tail lights to altezzas and the outer light just refuses to come off. I dont wont to pry cuz im gonna scratch the paint on the outside of the car. I undid 3 screws and as far as i can see that all there is - just 3 screws. Am I missing something here?

 
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which 3 did you take out so far?? Cause there are 5 screws/bolts that need to be removed. Let me know which ones you have taken out and I'll tell you which one is missing. And YOU DO NOT need to take off the bumper!

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someone told me you have to take off the rear bumper, and if u look from the below.... there's 1 more screw

 
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crap so do i have to take it off or not? I can only see three nuts. They are standard hex nuts. The bolts are actually on the tail light

 
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no dont take it off

if you look carefully under the bumper there is one more bolt

that should do it

 
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yeh u goota remove ur rear bumper to take ur tailites off..if u already removed the 3 screws that are visible take off ur bumper and ther will be 2 more screws attachted to a metal plate.. i would knoe this b\c i broke my taillites an had to replace them..

 
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Leave your bumper on. Put the 3 screws back in. There, now the car looks better already.

 
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you wasted several minutes of your life right there

 
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lol...bumper...no bumper...bumper...no bumper

WHICH IS IT?

 
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so how would one go about taking off the rear bumper?? cause ive searched and theres absolutely no info on that. is it as easy as the front bumper??
this is slightly OT, but if he needs to do it, then someone might as well post a "how to."
(i wanna know for when im gonna install my body kit...id rather DIM (do it myself) than pay someone to do it for me)

thanks

 
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JEEBUS CHRIST!!

hear me now believe me later

you DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT have to take off the bumper

I've done it, not once, not twice, but three freaking times in three different sedans!

 
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I second that YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMOVE THE BUMPER!

 
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You dont have to take it off, but its easier and that way you know what exactly u are suppose to do if you DO take it off. I personaly took it off, and i didnt complain. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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You DO NOT need to remove the bumper. There are more screws, but you can't see them. Get UNDER the rear bumper with a flashlight and a LONG screwdriver, and LOOK FOR THOSE SCREWS. It won't be simple, but once you find them, you'll know.

 
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ok guys, thanks to everybody i got all stock lights out and the altezzas in. and i did it WITHOUT taking the bumper off - but I have to say it was hecka hard and i could see how taking the bumper off would tooootally help make it easier. Its hard to reach, and you have to have the absolute perfect tools to fit in there to work with. Sweating bullets i was. The right one I got off with a looooot of elbow grease. The left one I actually broke off

but anyway they are in and they look sweeet.

Thanks for everybody's help ESPECIALLY anchorBlue01

INTERESTINGLY - I somehow managed to blow two bulbs while i was doing this. I have no idea how. The bulbs werent roughed at all.

 
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You probably touched the bulb with your hands, leaving an oily residue, which heated up and exploded your bulbs.

 
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i thought that only happened with headlight (halogen) bulbs. The dead bulb count is up from 2 to 4