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Hi all,

I am curious here. If we are using the radar detector in our car..... when the cops point the laser gun to our cars, will they know that we are using a radar detector?

Thanks

 
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this one is for qcksilver to answer.

 
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hmm, i guess i don't know for sure, but i don't think they can. i think the radar detector just has a reciever, not a transmitter. but i'm not sure about that. qcksilvr would know.

 
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sup ya'll.....cops know if you do or not

think about it

in DC and in Virginia
radar detectors are banned

so they have VG-2 technology to see if you got a radar detector

luckily, most new radar detectors have VG-2 cloaking technology

so cops sense it

 
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angjc3 is right. i hate it when cops try to out smart us......lol
But, they do have radar jammers available.....completely illegal, cuz it jams all radar signals.something to think about?

 
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i will go ahead and answer for qcksilver since i am a police officer also! yes we can tell when you use radar detectors, espically when we are using a radar gun, new advanced technology allows us to see it you have a radar detector and if your blocking our radar gun!! so yes we can tell.

 
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even if they can tell, you shouldn't worry since they are totally legal, except in Virginia of course

 
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so would a cop be able to pull you over if you have a radar jammer and laser jammer but still doing the speed limit? lol i would like to see the look on the face of cop when both his guns dont work to get your speed [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] lol

 
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theres always a thing called unmarked police cars and pacing your vehicle!!! just remember that

 
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on my radar detector and all good ones are garanteed non detectable by police. check it out. i have the cobra 9 band. it even makes a certain sound when a cop is trying to detect a radar detector but it says the won't detect you. i got a ticket the other day cause of seatbelt and for the detector being on my windshield cause of block of view. even though it is all the way down touching my dash.

 
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Don't waste your money on radar detectors. All departments (if they don't have them yet) are getting instant-on radar. The gun doesn't turn on or send out a signal until you press the button, at which point the radar detector alerts the vehicle operator that their speed has just been clocked. That's how it works now.

Trust me in that if I want to get someone speeding, I can do it regardless if they have a detector, jammer, what have you.

 
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sorry to tell ya this boys but yes quick is right the policemen in the area are starting to us einstant on so beauties like the valentine 1 and the passport are getting obsolete, it doesnt matter tho, if a cop is in a speed trap hell set off a the gun to get another person, the good detectors know about a mile ahead. The moral, dont speed on empty stretches of highway cause those podunk police officers love to get their moneys worht out of their instant on.

 
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Most in my area are to lazy to use the instant on and just let the detector sit there like a beacon. My guess is so that they can do paperwork or whatever and not have to worry too much about missing that speeder. It's all worthless when they move over to LIDAR guns. The detectors that say they are good for that are complete BS. It's a freaking lazer. About the only time you would detect that is if it was hitting your detector straight on, and that's a little too late.

 
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I still think its a good idea to get one. Yes, there are always ways the cops can get you, but having the detector will still help out some. I know my V1 has saved me from 2 tickets, so it's already paid for itself. Like WhiteRiceBoi and DxMaN said, there still are cops who keep their radar on so you can still get those and if you have a good detector, you 'supposedly' should be about to detect the instant on hits when they are used on cars infront of you.

-Kre

 
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Instant-on radars have been around for quite a few years now if memory serves me. Seems like those were out when I was 16 and that's almost 9 years ago now. A detector will pick up the signal when the radar clocks the cars in front of you. You run into a problem when it's late at night and an officer is sitting on the side of the road and there is almost no traffic. You don't get a chance to pick up any signals from other cars being clocked.

Anyhow, detectors are nice to have and like toys if you ask me. They will help you and most definately save you a few tickets. However, detectors can't go over the tops of hills and around big curves and other barriers.

Ultimately, I think detectors give one a false sense of security and thus, one ends up with a ticket. No matter what, it's just a matter of time before you get caught.

 
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I just noticed this as I was coming into work today. I was coming down a street and there were 4 motorcycle units on the right side. They were probably around 150 yards away and my radar detector went off in a way Ive enever heard it go off before. I wasnt speeding LUCKILY but I was doing 47 in a 45. When I used to get hit with radar, the unit made a completely different noise, but its different now. Maybe they are switching over to these new units now.

 
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all i have to say is beware of all white , black , silver crown vics those are the cars that the police mostly use as unmarked cars

 
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Ok, there's basically three things, all of which have their good and bad.
First, the radar detector. If the cop leaves the radar gun on, then the detector *should* pick it up ahead of time and warn you so you can reduce your speed. Great, but useless against the new-age LIDAR technology.
Second, there's the radar jammer. It sends out a conflicting signal that the cops gun can't use, and thus doesn't show any speed. Now a good cop is probably going to figure out what you're doing, and so they'll come after you anyways.
Third, The Laser jammer. Because LIDAR is an instant on thing, you can't detect it until you've already been scanned. So the Laser jammer works similarly to the radar jammer, in that it doesn't let the gun scan you. However, again, a cop is going to realize that something's up when his gun doesn't show anything after a couple shoots, so there's some laser jammers that block the first shot and then turn off for a minute, giving you a warning so that you slow down before the cop gets a second shot.

In the end, you could either get all three for the most effect, though if you get caught with the Laser jammer, you'll just get fined anyways. And it'd be pretty danm expensive for that kind of setup. Probably the easiest thing is get a radar detector and hope your local cops are too cheap to get the lasers for a little while longer. Or, the best thing you can do, is not speed at all. It's the most effective, safest, and most cost-efficient way to ensure you don't get a ticket. Or kill someone.

Anyways hope this helps for all you speeders out there (myself included) - just keep it safe. And the info above I *think* is accurate, but I might have made a few mistakes. If you spot one, lemme know

Cheers! [IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]

 
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they can if you dont have vg2 technology....If you have an old school dectector then they probably can

 
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Ours are dark dark grey, an off black, and dark green....plus they have super dark-*** tinted windows, not to mention the spotlight on the drivers pillar

 
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There's also a thing called entrapment....like when there's an unmarked car tailgating & trying to run off the road in order to get you to speed. At least the cops where I live try this.

 
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Ummm...no. That's not entrapment. Providing an opportunity for someone to commit an offense is in no way entrapment. The tailgating is a method of pacing and they're trying to obtain your current speed, not get you to speed. Even if they were, that's not entrapment.

Entrapment involves the coersion, inducement and undue influence to force someone into the commission of a crime. Merely providing for the opportunity of commission is not entrapment.

 
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Yeah, detectives here drive the black cars and most of the unmarked patrol cars are blue or silver.

 
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Yup, a radar detector can help warn you of a trap ahead if there are other cars getting scanned in front of you.

An instant on unit decreases the duration of the radar broadcast which also decreases the chance of your detector catching the broadcast and alerting you.

Radar is basically a line-of-sight type of broadcast, but oddly, I see many people with them stuck to their dash - above their mirrors would be better (up higher - see farther).

If the road is empty except for you, all it will do is verify that you've been caught (it did for me years ago...).

IMO, laser detectors probably aren't worth the money... my understanding is that the laser beam is about a foot round or less when it hits your car grill... not much of it gets scattered under normal operation (much less than radar energy) - so there's not much you can reliabily detect when it hits the car in front of you.

Any illegal jamming equipment used by you and detected by traffic enforcement will surely be more of a hassle then it's worth when you need to explain how you really don't have criminal intent in the operation of the thing....

 
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qcksilver let me tell you something interesting, cops are getting smart they are utilizing impounded vehicles, here in florida, near panama city i have seen twice, a jeep chreokee on 20's pull over ablue rx-7 on hwy 98, anyone who lives close to me knows of him, i have also seen it parked at the city public works where they repair the vehicles, i have also seen suburban's, not pulling anyone over but they were in an empty parking lot infested with unmarked crown vic's. I think the feds were in my town for something bigm dunno c0ol tho. The jeep freked me out, strobes and sirens and all.

 
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QCKSILVR-

In our area, cops claim "we dont go after people unless theyre 5mph or over the speed limit. Is that a general rule of thumb?

Also....as a cop arent you given a special sticker to put on the back of your windshield...it means something to this effect: if your speeding or something, a cop is suposed to recognize this symbol and let you go? A cop down the street told me...and showed me his sticker. That seems wronnnnnng. But is it true?

Also....You come from a low crime area...as do i. I live in a rich city of michigan....and we dont have murders and stuff....well no one hears about them ever. Anyways, what do you do most often...answer to 911 calls and complaints, or go after speeders, and people who shouldnt be driving that sorta stuff....or are there multiple types of city cops?

 
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As far as the sticker, we have PBA (police benevolent association) stickers and cards made up for friends, family, etc. These cards and stickers show other officers that the person who has them is a friend or family member of a police officer. The police officer is supposed to extend courtesy to those individuals.

I have a couple of stickers on my car, but when I get stopped (a few times) , I just show my identification and I'm on my way. Cops always will extend courtesy to another cop.

I don't work for a city; I work for a county department. Officers are assigned to a particular precinct that is responsible for several towns and areas. We patrol, answer calls for service, conduct initial investigations and perform traffic enforcement. We are a large department with specialized units ESU (Emergency Service Unit), traffic inforcement, Detective Bureau, etc.

 
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i agree with the entrapment thing. i know a few cops as well as my 2 cousins and they do the same thing. i have had it done to me so many times. why would they want to know my current speed when i am going 45. it's obvious i'm not speeding. ha ha. what do you think that is. key word, PROVIDING. it's the same as making. every cop knows it gets the driver nervous and forces them to look in the mirror more than the road and eventually speed or swurve which gives the cop a reason the pull them over. it's BS. the cops are tailgaiting which is illeagal and dangerous. they are risking the safety of many drivers. can i get a amen

 
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bottlefed

i have to agree with you on that

AMEN