P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
Hey guys,
I came from owning BMW's and knowing everything about them to becoming more practical in life and buying a 04 Civic EX for a daily.
So far I have regretted every second of ownership.
Car is a 1.7 litre Vtec motor
I have a check engine code that I have thoroughly studied up on and I even work for my local Honda dealer. I had my techs check everything. The car had a ton of maintenance done before I bought it. I'll pretty much run through the steps I took to get rid of it.
1. Changed the oil with a new OEM filter and cleared the code - code came back
2. Checked the oil engine switch and VTEC solenoid on the back of the block - no clogs in the filter and the switch was fine (even put in a new one to see if it would read different) - cleared error codes and it came back
3. Checked the wiring harnesses for any shorts, my techs couldnt find any.
4. Replaced the ECU and cleared the code (made sure new ECU purchased was compatible) - Went away for 60 miles and then came back
5. Added oil and cleared code again - came back on less than ten miles later.
I'm at my absolute witts end with this thing and have literally 0 idea what to do and the techs at my dealership don't know where to go from here either. Any suggestions would be helpful considering at this point all I want to do is sell it because I can't even pass inspection at this point
Thanks in advance and please excuse my ignorance as I know little to nothing about theses cars.
Edit: Oil pressure seems to be fine as well.
Edit: Car is also canadian.
I came from owning BMW's and knowing everything about them to becoming more practical in life and buying a 04 Civic EX for a daily.
So far I have regretted every second of ownership.
Car is a 1.7 litre Vtec motor
I have a check engine code that I have thoroughly studied up on and I even work for my local Honda dealer. I had my techs check everything. The car had a ton of maintenance done before I bought it. I'll pretty much run through the steps I took to get rid of it.
1. Changed the oil with a new OEM filter and cleared the code - code came back
2. Checked the oil engine switch and VTEC solenoid on the back of the block - no clogs in the filter and the switch was fine (even put in a new one to see if it would read different) - cleared error codes and it came back
3. Checked the wiring harnesses for any shorts, my techs couldnt find any.
4. Replaced the ECU and cleared the code (made sure new ECU purchased was compatible) - Went away for 60 miles and then came back
5. Added oil and cleared code again - came back on less than ten miles later.
I'm at my absolute witts end with this thing and have literally 0 idea what to do and the techs at my dealership don't know where to go from here either. Any suggestions would be helpful considering at this point all I want to do is sell it because I can't even pass inspection at this point
Thanks in advance and please excuse my ignorance as I know little to nothing about theses cars.
Edit: Oil pressure seems to be fine as well.
Edit: Car is also canadian.
Re: P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...icking-yo.html
Look at this thread. Maybe some of the maintenance was a new head gasket and this bolt was left uncovered??
Look at this thread. Maybe some of the maintenance was a new head gasket and this bolt was left uncovered??
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Re: P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
and I even work for my local Honda dealer. I had my techs check everything
Do you own the techs? LOL
and the techs at my dealership don't know where to go from here either.
I see management problems. ALL problems are management problems.
Edit: Car is also canadian.
Or just built in Canada for the US market?
Edit: Oil pressure seems to be fine as well.
Re: P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
What is your position at this dealership?
Do you own the techs? LOL
Wow. This should be easy.
I see management problems. ALL problems are management problems.
Sold in Canada as a Canadian market car then imported into the USA?
Or just built in Canada for the US market?
Exactly how many PSI's is "fine"? My pressure gauges all have numbers, not words like 'good' or 'fine' or 'enough'.
Do you own the techs? LOL
Wow. This should be easy.
I see management problems. ALL problems are management problems.
Sold in Canada as a Canadian market car then imported into the USA?
Or just built in Canada for the US market?
Exactly how many PSI's is "fine"? My pressure gauges all have numbers, not words like 'good' or 'fine' or 'enough'.
Built in Canada for US market. And I didn't get an exact PSI from either the techs here or my local mechanic but everyone has said the oil pressure is fine.
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I might rig up a test light and a meter so I can watch the control on the vtec solenoid, and watch the response from the pressure switch...while driving or just in the shop so I can see if there is too much time lag, or if the pressure switch might have intermittently bad contacts or whatever. Watch the system in action to see what part might be going wrong.
Got freeze frame data from when the code sets?
Got freeze frame data from when the code sets?
Re: P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
I might rig up a test light and a meter so I can watch the control on the vtec solenoid, and watch the response from the pressure switch...while driving or just in the shop so I can see if there is too much time lag, or if the pressure switch might have intermittently bad contacts or whatever. Watch the system in action to see what part might be going wrong.
Got freeze frame data from when the code sets?
Got freeze frame data from when the code sets?
I know in the service bulletin it does say it shouldn't have any continuity regardless though. It was reading a very small amount but its worth mentioning. I haven't had them do a test on the actual solenoid yet just because when they pulled it off the screen and everything was clear. Assembly looked brand new. (Ive only had the car for around two or three months now)
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Re: P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
Has anyone in your shop pulled the valve cover off and inspected yet?
The second reply in this thread gave you a link to another relevant thread with a great picture:
The second reply in this thread gave you a link to another relevant thread with a great picture:
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...icking-yo.html
Look at this thread. Maybe some of the maintenance was a new head gasket and this bolt was left uncovered??
Look at this thread. Maybe some of the maintenance was a new head gasket and this bolt was left uncovered??
Re: P2646 - Tried Everything - Pls Help
I had my mechanic pull it off to inspect underneath. The only thing he could notice was the valve cover gasket wasn't done properly when the PO did the head gasket. He fixed that but said everything else looked fine.



