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Is there a way to disable the clutch start on our cars?? My brother had an older toyota p/u and it had a switch to disable it. If it is possible, how? I'm just kinda short and with the seat all the way back I find it difficult to press the clutch all the way in to start it. Thanks in advance.

 
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umm i dont think we can, but u sorta need the clutch to start it and to drive it buddy.. just scoot the seat up[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]

 
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you probably can somehow, but I think it could screw up the ideling in our cars

 
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If the clutch activates a physical switch then the solution would be to just bypass that switch and have the circuit on all the time. That is if that switch was only used for starting the car. If it's used for other checks the ECU does then you could cause a bunch of problems. It should be pretty easy. Just look at the gas pedal and see what it activates when it's pressed in all the way. You should be able to see something. That is unless it's internal to the transmition. That would suck.

 
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Yeah i just pulled out the handy dandy Helms electrical manual and it looks as if the clutch interlock switch is on the same circuit as the cruise control (which i dont use anyways). I'm going to do some more research but I believe it can be done. If anybody has any ideas, please by all means, lettem rip...

 
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theres 2 switches on the clutch- an upper one that senses when the clutch is up (closer to the windshield)- and a lower one that senses when the clutch is depresed (twards the pedal)- if you just hook a relay up to the to the starter wire an on the 2 lines of the switch- when the starter is turned on it will momentarily connect the 2 wires- telling the ECU that your clutch is all the way down- if you constantly connect them it may screw with the cruis- but i dont think it will- i dont recomend you do that anyway bc the one time you let your friend drive your car and he has an auto and your car goes carrening into whatever is infront of it youll regret it- you could hook up a switch but then your constantly hooking up the switch on and off-

 
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The reason Toyota P/U has clutchless start is for climbing hills. Your starter has the most torque at the lowest speed. I have on many occasions been unable to climb a steep hill (off road of course) and just enabled the clutchless start. Put the truck in 1st Gear and tu rn the key. Granted it isn't good on your starter and I needed a jump when I got to the top of the hill but It worked. I didn't need a tow!

 
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Whoa!

People use their starter motors for added torque? That's weird.

 
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the reason some people don't want to use the clutch to start the car is because the clutch is not well lubbed. it's hard on your clutch to press it in when the car is cold. But us young guys would start the car in gear if we didn't have that. I know I would

 
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don't bypass it, put it on a momentary switch. that way you could press the button and turn the key and it would start, without pressing the clutch. that would ensure that you didn't accidently do it.

 
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Here's an idea! I had to play with the switch when I was hooking up my remote start. Like previously posted the clutch has two switches. A high switch that disengages cruise control when you touch it and a low swtich which is used to start the car. You can connect the low swith to the high switch using a little jumper wire. If i remember correct they are both ground. That way you still have to push in your clutch to start the car, just not all the way to the floor.

 
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be very careful with this ability! like always, i have a story...

there was a guy who put a remote start into his civic manual, of course he had to disable the clutch part to start the car. Well, one day he was showing off the car, and turned on the remote start. unfortunately he forgot that he had left the car in gear! In short, the car lept to life and drove through the front window of the busness with noone in the car at all [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

ive been next to a car with a remote start when teh guy hit the button from a block away. scared the @$#%outta my friend [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] he is hooked on getting a remote start. thank god im not too impressed with them, since i drive a stick! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG]

ill admit tho, it would be cool to press a button from a block away, have the windows roll down, the car to start, and then the system to start bumping........ [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG]

 
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Yah, I know what you mean about the jumping. I had a friend do it on his '00 Si. I put remote start in my manual, however I put some safety switches to prevent it from starting in gear. I hooked up a wire to the e-brake so it won't start if the e-brake isn't up. I wire it up to the hood pin switch so that it will make an additional beep when I arm it to let me know something is open. I also installed magnetic switches around my switch gates so if my gear shifter is pushed forward or backward it won't start. And I didn't disable my clutch, the alarm sends out a signal when the remote start process begins. I used that wire in combination with a relay to temporarily bypass the clutch. It works normal otherwise.

 
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Well if you disabled it, wouldn't it just make the car easier to steal? I have the autolock I have used for awhile on my clutch when I was living in Phoenix. Just curious

Nick

 
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Pull your seat up to reach the clutch better. I'll have to ask my friend who had his MR2 without a clutch start what he did.

 
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<< the reason some people don't want to use the clutch to start the car is because the clutch is not well lubbed. it's hard on your clutch to press it in when the car is cold. But us young guys would start the car in gear if we didn't have that. I know I would >>



sorry but...

WTF are you talking about? The clutch doesnt have any lubrication, and the throwout bearing is as lubricated as its gonna get when you install it..... the reason people dont want to use the clutch at start is because its easy to just turn a key and start, the clutch is used by the factory to ensure that morons dont start their car in 1st gear and lurch forward.

awww shiznit, i gotta go change my clutch oil again [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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Tomorrow I will post a DIY clutchless start its really simple, just need to take some pics to make it easy to follow

 
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Well, the easiest way to do this would be to pull out the relay from the under dash fuse box and short two of the connectors.

Should be the lowermost left relay.

BTW, the civics over here come without this starter cut.

 
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check it out, its pretty simple, look under your footwell.

there are 2 plugs attatched to the clutch, on lower one, one upper one (physically, that is). again, like everyone else said, one is for start, other for cruise. ive forgotten, but i think the one that is physically higher is teh starter. so all you have to do is pull teh plug and stick a jumper in there. thats the ghetto way to do it.

but it should work. car will start without teh clutch depressed. because as far as the car knows, the clutch is ALWAYS depressed fully.

 
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i did it for my remote start, if you want a push button clutchless start, just splice into the two wires coming out of the lower switch. run wires, drill a hole. voila, clutchless start. for remote start purposes, just to be safe, you use a relay. put a 12v, remote start signal..and then the normally closed circuit would have the two wires from the clutch..that way its only momentary and the computer wont screw up..if indeed the computer is that sensitive.

 
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had a friend who took his car to the shop, he had an electric start and the mechanics were playing with it but it was in gear, the car rolled down the hill into the main road and WHAMM was hit by a pickup truck,

yes there is a way to dissable it but i recommend not for your reason
you say your short but want the seat back and cant push in the clutch all the way to start it........move the seat up because when you change gears without pushing the clutch all the way in you ruin your clutch faster

 
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its not a matter of ruining your clutch..have some love for them gears. as far as rolling..i put a neutral sensor in my car and a disable switch so the car will not start if its in gear or manually disabled.

 
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Well the question to as I think is what is the difference between the european spec 7thgens and the american spec? I am here in germany and I can sit in a european spec civic and just turn the key and it starts ..... but my american spec civic i have to depress the clutch. So I guess if you can find out why the euro spec civic's can be started just by turning the key you will have your answer.

 
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Well the only difference is the switch and a relay cutting the lead to the starter solenoid. Hence I think the most elegant sollution is to place a shorting connector in the fuse box as I mentioned erlier.

/hp

 
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most elegant? i agree.

or shorting them out at the plug near the clutch itself.

 
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yeah, I guess!

but with my way you get a spare relay!

 
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Bypassing the clutch affects the Cruise Control, how? From what I can tell after looking at my clutch, my friend who installed the remote start part of my alarm just connected each of them together w/ one wire that's wire tapped into the lower and upper wires. I can still use my Cruise Control w/ no issues (turn it on and off, set the speed, acc/dec, etc.) and there's also no other issues w/ my car because of this that I can tell. I've had a remote start w/ this clutch bypass for about 6 months now. Can any of you tell me (besides the Cruise Control) if there's any specific problems I should look for that may not be so obvious (I would have noticed anything major in past 6 months I hope). Thanks in advance...

 
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I'm wondering, why would you have trouble stepping on the clutch to start? It takes what a second to start? Step on that motha hard...I had those problems in my old 5thgen...

 
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nrrin, there are two clutch sensors. one that sense when the clutch is depressed fully (starter) and one that checks if its barely tapped (cruise)

they are independant, so a remote start totally wouldnt affect cruise

 
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O.K. so know you know how to disable it. Be careful i leave my car out of gear 99.9% of the time. but the truth is sometime you slip, and that is when you see your car rolling away. Is it really better if you still have to look at your cr when you remote start it to ensre it is not rolling down a hill towards and lake, yes saved by a tree. Wait that is what happen to mean, when i let someone else drive my car and a 5yr old started playing with my key. you can disassemble the cruise/cluth wire too. I did i so that i could down shift, pass, and not have to reset the cruise again.