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Old Mar 13, 2007
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K20 NA Swap, with Turbo Lag?

Well it feels like turbo lag (0 RPM - 3000RPM) when i have the throttle 1/2 to WOT.
It just bogs then power kicks in, in the upper ranges of the tach.(Before VEEEEEEE TAKKKKK)

In every gear. More noticable in 1rst,2nd,and 3rd Gear

Sometimes it bogs throughout the rev range, esp. after a heavy rain, or I power wash the car

Anyone else have this problem?

K20 type s swap into a 4dr 2k1 civic.
Stock motor w/ JDM type R ECU

Could it be?
1. Coil Packs going?
2. Water contamination somewhere?
3. Fuel not being delivered fast enough?
4. plugged Fuel Filter?

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It just bogs then power kicks in, in the upper ranges of the tach.(Before Vtech)
What is "Vtech"?
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You have everything wired correctly? and why you using a type R ecu on a type s motor?
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^ i was wondering about the ecu as well... why not a type s ecu, i mean it is a stock motor. and doesn't the jdm ecu/motor have different vtec points from the usdm type s motor?
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Originally Posted by tuningmycivic
^ i was wondering about the ecu as well... why not a type s ecu, i mean it is a stock motor. and doesn't the jdm ecu/motor have different vtec points from the usdm type s motor?
correctamundo..... well at least i thought correctamundo
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I'm thinkin its got something to do with a timing/injector pulse difference. The Type R has bigger cams in it, and you're probably bogging it down with too much gas. Get an A2 ECU, flash it or Kpro it.
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PRB i think the ecu is
its to defeat the key imobilizer
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^ You should be ok to run the JDM ECU, if you say this only happens after you wash the car or if it is raining, you might want to check any exposed wiring that can come in contact with water. Might just be bad grounding causing the car to drive rough. Double check all the wiring.. maybe you just need to do a tune-up.
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mmmmmmmmm turbo lag in a naturally aspirated car mmmmmmmmm

Sounds good, kind of like a good doughnut!!!

Know what I mean?
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u dont deserve that car.......or for that matter..u dont deserve that swap.....
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Originally Posted by tougEMII
u dont deserve that car.......or for that matter..u dont deserve that swap.....
Why not exactly?
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Originally Posted by tougEMII
u dont deserve that car.......or for that matter..u dont deserve that swap.....
because he is having a problem with a modified car?

If it only happens after ran/wash then its probably wires or something that is exposed to water. If it runs fine during dry then its probably not the ECU.
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Originally Posted by lxcivic2k1
because he is having a problem with a modified car?

If it only happens after ran/wash then its probably wires or something that is exposed to water. If it runs fine during dry then its probably not the ECU.
+1

check your wires. my dad had the same problem with his crx, was just wires.
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Water and electricity doesnt mix buddy. Check the wires!!
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u dont deserve that car.......or for that matter..u dont deserve that swap.....
what a stupid post
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sorry if imma spend 8K for a swap..id do it right the first time and research instead of messing up and using stupid terms like turbo lag on a na or vtech. might be acting stupid but its annoying when i see that. to be honest and an ******* even more id say u were a noob with a nice job and someone else cud benefit from that motor besides u. i thought it was amazingly stupid when i read this title. well anyways so no one else has a BF, i apologize for my *******ness. dont take it up the ***.
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Originally Posted by tougEMII
sorry if imma spend 8K for a swap..id do it right the first time and research instead of messing up and using stupid terms like turbo lag on a na or vtech. might be acting stupid but its annoying when i see that. to be honest and an ******* even more id say u were a noob with a nice job and someone else cud benefit from that motor besides u. i thought it was amazingly stupid when i read this title. well anyways so no one else has a BF, i apologize for my *******ness. dont take it up the ***.
"Well it feels like turbo lag"

its a motor not a like blood donation or an organ.

calm down mang.
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i am calm. its not like im screaming and yelling and smashing my keyboard....cheesecake. ok imma go canyon......peaaaaaaace
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Originally Posted by tougEMII
sorry if imma spend 8K for a swap..id do it right the first time and research instead of messing up and using stupid terms like turbo lag on a na or vtech. might be acting stupid but its annoying when i see that. to be honest and an ******* even more id say u were a noob with a nice job and someone else cud benefit from that motor besides u. i thought it was amazingly stupid when i read this title. well anyways so no one else has a BF, i apologize for my *******ness. dont take it up the ***.
well he said it was LIKE turbo lag, since that was basically what he was comparing it to. Using VtecH could have been a mistake. There's is nothing in his thread that said he did something wrong. Little problems like this occur when diong a swap. No one here has done a swap and ended up with no problems what so ever the first time around. there is always little things you got to work out.

Also whats up with the BF statement? and cheescake? where the hell did you grow up to talk like that?

ahh...watevers..i can't expect much from you anyways. You're 18 and probably just got out of high school and still within that i'm too cool stage. i'm out

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the type r ecu does not have the immobilizer BUT it does have a fuel cut off if the harness is ont grounded properly or kpro isnt attached to it to over ride said cut off, might be your issue might not just 2 pennies that i had laying around.
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Originally Posted by feet_
Well it feels like turbo lag (0 RPM - 3000RPM) when i have the throttle 1/2 to WOT.
It just bogs then power kicks in, in the upper ranges of the tach.(Before Vtech)

In every gear. More noticable in 1rst,2nd,and 3rd Gear

Sometimes it bogs throughout the rev range, esp. after a heavy rain, or I power wash the car

Anyone else have this problem?

K20 type s swap into a 4dr 2k1 civic.
Stock motor w/ JDM type R ECU

Could it be?
1. Coil Packs going?
2. Water contamination somewhere?
3. Fuel not being delivered fast enough?
4. plugged Fuel Filter?

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Originally Posted by D5cIvIc
well he said it was LIKE turbo lag, since that was basically what he was comparing it to. Using VtecH could have been a mistake. There's is nothing in his thread that said he did something wrong. Little problems like this occur when diong a swap. No one here has done a swap and ended up with no problems what so ever the first time around. there is always little things you got to work out.

Also whats up with the BF statement? and cheescake? where the hell did you grow up to talk like that?

ahh...watevers..i can't expect much from you anyways. You're 18 and probably just got out of high school and still within that i'm too cool stage. i'm out
calm down mr 22yrs old...sheesh....i dont care what u expect from me..i dont think im cool at all..im a nerd and im drive a lot. if u wanna settle something...call me up and we'll run..drag...or canyon =d im trying to forget all this and i apologized and all u do is attack me more..learn a crappy sense of humor so u can just forget about it. i already admitted my mistakes..so basically what im telling u is..f**k off.. so basically shut ur mouth and leave an 18 yr old alone. because ur 22 and u should be responisble*sarcastic*. stop picking fights. damn im tired...malibu canyon cruise....

edit: nvm u live in new york...i dont care about ur comments so say w.e

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okay ladies, lets just drop it... thank-you.
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^ man.......that was awesome......totally made my day.......hahah

nice tougEMII +1 for you bro.

at least tougEMII is mature about it....unlike alot of ppl on this forum
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Originally Posted by tougEMII
calm down mr 22yrs old...sheesh....i dont care what u expect from me..i dont think im cool at all..im a nerd and im drive a lot. if u wanna settle something...call me up and we'll run..drag...or canyon =d im trying to forget all this and i apologized and all u do is attack me more..learn a crappy sense of humor so u can just forget about it. i already admitted my mistakes..so basically what im telling u is..f**k off.. so basically shut ur mouth and leave an 18 yr old alone. because ur 22 and u should be responisble*sarcastic*. stop picking fights. damn im tired...malibu canyon cruise....

edit: nvm u live in new york...i dont care about ur comments so say w.e
i'm just going to let it be. Also..i don't think you would want to drag. Canyon...I'll give you that one though

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Originally Posted by sl33pyriceboi
^ man.......that was awesome......totally made my day.......hahah

nice tougEMII +1 for you bro.

at least tougEMII is mature about it....unlike alot of ppl on this forum
yeah realll mature...i can tell

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have u fixed your car yet. I would deff change the ecu to the type s one.
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Originally Posted by Nameless
^ You should be ok to run the JDM ECU, if you say this only happens after you wash the car or if it is raining, you might want to check any exposed wiring that can come in contact with water. Might just be bad grounding causing the car to drive rough. Double check all the wiring.. maybe you just need to do a tune-up.
Good call.

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Its the 2001 Black 4dr, I bought it off your customer Danial A.
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Originally Posted by tougEMII
calm down mr 22yrs old...sheesh....i dont care what u expect from me..i dont think im cool at all..im a nerd and im drive a lot. if u wanna settle something...call me up and we'll run..drag...or canyon =d im trying to forget all this and i apologized and all u do is attack me more..learn a crappy sense of humor so u can just forget about it. i already admitted my mistakes..so basically what im telling u is..f**k off.. so basically shut ur mouth and leave an 18 yr old alone. because ur 22 and u should be responisble*sarcastic*. stop picking fights. damn im tired...malibu canyon cruise....

edit: nvm u live in new york...i dont care about ur comments so say w.e
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