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Here is the link 2 the site the kid bought it from http://www.procivic.com/pages-produc...turbo-kit.html he spent $2,800 he had it for about a week and he ran it on 8psi and blew a hole in his block cuz he ran to much psi w/o enought fuel.. he is tryin 2 sell the his kit for around $1,800 should i do this or no? tell me what u all think about this and the kit its self.. thxx

 
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id say no...I had the tsi kit, i never installed and then sold it off. My view on the whole forced induction is why spend 1800 dollars to get a little closer to 200 hp, not to the wheels btw. In the end, youll be spending a lot more then 1800 dollars and youll find yourself in the same situation as the kid youre thinkin about buying it from. I say no, but I was tempted also, and i went for it. However, after talking to a lot of people on this forum, i was pretty convinced that the turbo was going to be a headache. Search tsi, youll see posts about the problems with fitting of the tsi kit, and a lot of haters of the tsi kit. If you really want to go turbo, check out dezods custom kit if he still has it for sale, he knows what hes doin. But dont think for one second that 1800 flat is goin to be what youll be paying for a complete turbo kit, cause it will be much more down the line, maintenence, repair, etc.....Good luck

 
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To be honest just save your money and go dezod. If dezod had been around when i bought my kit i would have waiting and done it with him. He is all about the d17 so you expect the kit to have better components. And yes dezods kit is expensive but there is no cheap way to go fast. When you do the turbo just do it right the first time and don't worry again.

 
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At first i would have jumped on it (atleast would've considered it throughly) but from what jBrown59 had said, It opened up my eyes. Why waste 1800 on a turbo and have to spend 800 or so on a fuel management system to get to roughly 200hp? i know our d17s aren't much to work with and if so we'd spend craploads of $$$ to get'em just to where we want it, but even if we did i don't even think that would even be on the same level as getting a k20a? why don't you just save about 2200 more and look for a k20a swap? I know it sounds like alot of money, but with a k20a you'd have more options and plus its a six speed i dunno...just my 2 cents

 
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no. buy dezod kit.

 
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dezod FTW!!

 
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Whats your goals?
If you want to stay modest with your goals, then $1800 for a almost new kit is a very good deal. You'll get a nice little fun car to drive!

TSI kits are not so hard to install, no emanage = no headaches, 8psi ~ 170whp.

I'm not giving you "hearsay evidence", my info is firsthand.

I bought TSI kit last summer, it took me about 1 week to install (I have a job and family), no problems after ~15000mi, just oil chages.

I'm reading these boards for couple of years now and I dont recall anyone saying firshand that they blew motor with a TSI kit (I'm not talking headgasket).

Sectert of TSI reliability is a TSI fuel system. Everybody hates it, except TSI users - who love it.

I feel confident in driving my car any distance and any place I need to go.

Following members have experience with TSI kits: CrewChief, eye_see_you, 02CivicGabe

 
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u forgot about me. thats messed up.

 
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tsi kit with no fuel system =$1,800 + emanage and dezod PnP hareness = $300(i found a good deal) + rsx-s injectors(used)= $100 and the total = $2,200 for about 200whp ok ok ok... maybe 185whp

vs


dezod v3 with no fuel, and management system = $3,200


about 1g difference your choice

 
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and me!!!! oh wait no

 
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Are TSI kits still being sold or the only way to get it now is used?

 
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buy my kit with emanage for $1600 FTW!!!

 
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u can buy them brand new.

buy his kit!

 
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PMed but hey exturbo6 where in Jersey you from i'd love to check out your ride.

 
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well im from brick. but i live in EDISON. off rt 27. my car is not turbo'd anymore thou. i had problems. stupid e-manage. so i took it all off. now i have about 3500. im thinking of a fully built turbo d17. or im going to call a junkyard my uncle knows of, friends and see if they can get me a k20 swap.

but if you wanna meet. im down.

 
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damn idk what 2 do.. i dont like the idea that its internal waste gate... the main reason why i wanted 2 get in a a few week is so b4 i go2 nopi i can have turbo lol.. so what is it about the TSI fuel system that u TSI owned like so much??

 
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From what I know ppl don't like the TSI fuel system because you can't adjust the timing but if your running below 6 pounds I don't see why you'd need to.

 
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the TSI fuel system is ok, i had an SF fuel system its the same concept, but emanage is definatly alot better.

 
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Internat wastegate is OK for what t25 turbo can give.

TSI fule system is simple to use and tune with.

Only drawback - you cant adjust timing.
From what I understand from reading FI forum 7th gen ECU adjust timing automaticaly.

Again, TSI fuel system is a basic, simple and reliable fuel system for 10-12 psi (as per other members) with t25 turbo.
I currently run 8-9psi daily for the last 6 months or so.

Yes, you can buy this kit new if you need to.

 
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Hey Acura 1.7 EL did the 01-03 civic in canada come with DRL, i was up in Ottawa and it seems all your cars come standard with DRL's?

 
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Sorry, but I only got to know you when you had your kit already off the car, so I could not possibly know your review of this kit.

Later on you wanted to put it back on, so now I have to think that you actualy were liking this kit. Again, I dont know you situation much.

Sorry, if there was a confusion.

Yes, all new cars sold in Canada after 1991 have to have DRL.

 
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its cool. yeah well i mean i loved the turbo kit. couldnt complain at all. i figured one day id get the e-manage and everything it offers and get it to run alot better. but it just turned into alot of problems right after i got that installed. and alot of money. i was blowing fuses, running pig rich, going 170 miles on a tank of gas, and thats being nice. no one around here knows what the hell they are doing with that ****. everything has AEM EMS, or whatever. cause i didnt seem like the 2 very well known places around here had no clue. and ron that includes turbotrix. they were the first ones to touch my car with it, after installing it, and they had no clue what they were doing. they said my car was done. e-managed all hooked up by them tuned, TUNED AT 108HP. WTF its less then what i came in at, and i had no clue what i started with before the e-manage. they couldnt figure out my car, so then i went to pruven preformanace. in CT. they couldnt figure out why i had problemds either. and they rewired it. so idk. after that i said take it off. i do want aonther turbo kit. beent laking to dezod about it. not sure still thou. im all for dezod kit for sure, but i think my money spent would be alot worth it for a k20. idk im going to spend 5-6k on a fully built d17 when i can get a k20 and start with 200-220. and if i wanna turbo then forget about it.

 
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^^
It does sound as hell of a rought time.
That is tough when you have no one to rely on.
I'm happy to hear that your idea to go Turbo hasn died after all.

 
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no it hasnt. b.c i got a few poeple i can rely on as for helping me do the install myself. and if i dont ask my friends then im going to talk to a few shops and see what else is around, and if something does go down, then i wanna be there every sec. if i have to us a weeks vacation from work to sit right next to my car and watch them do everything i will.

no it hasnt. b.c i got a few poeple i can rely on as for helping me do the install myself. and if i dont ask my friends then im going to talk to a few shops and see what else is around, and if something does go down, then i wanna be there every sec. if i have to us a weeks vacation from work to sit right next to my car and watch them do everything i will.


thats why im thinking of a k20. i wanna to rev to 9k. i want some nice power behind my whip, natural.

 
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That's what I'm talking about exturbo6. There's a guy on one of the hondatech sites that has an ITR fully built putting down 230whp N/A can you imagine that. I think you can find some videos on like youtube. But anyway I know our cars would never be able to do that but I think even an EX would be hella fun even reving to 8K with internals, but thats me. Good luck in w/e you do man and let me know if you ever wanna meet up.

 
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yeah sure. no problem. will have to meet. as for turbotrix. i personal wouldnt bring my car there, i have a bunch of friends who own EVO's, and talon's and they said when they do work on cars they do not do it properly. alot of poeple have had problems with that place from what i have been told in the past. evern a kid i met when i was getting my oil changed told me some **** about that place.

 
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so what should i do guys? yes or no? lol

 
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Well in a private convo with exturbo6 he said the dezod kit was the best way to go but thats alot of money up front. I personally would go TSI just for the experience of learning about turbos and you can always add things here and there to make it complete and get what you're looking for. Everyone hates on the kit but after I hear acura EL 1.7 talking about it I think if your patient with it and understand the fuel system it will be a good kit for turbo noobs.

 
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no buy my kit. its basiclally the same with a better manifold (HKS), and a better fuel management system (eManage)

 
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how much?? got pics? what numbers did u put down?