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Hi all, Iv been thinking of swapping in a K20 for this D17, from what i hear its a tight fit and some ppl have removed their a/c and powersteering for fitment. My question is, do you have to remove the powersteering and air conditioning to make this swap fit? beacuse i dont think i could live without a/c and it would be hard to get used to the feel of the car without power steering.

 
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if you do custom ac lines, you can keep your a/c. But that costs for the fabrication. Its better to remove the a/c though. Keeping p/s is no problem for the swap.

 
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How can you live without ac? id die

 
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ps is no problem. ac is PIA, I tired and I gave up.

 
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more and more people doing swaps are doing the ep3 electronic p/s swap too.

 
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ep3 a/c lines fit. you don't need custom ones

 
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i keep a/c and took the ep3 electrial steering. I had a/c line fabbed up it was 270 something for the lines. it doesnt matter if its a A,A2,or A3 USE THE ELECTRIAL STEERING. you wont have to cutt into the hood and its about an extra 5whp plus i think its better than pump.

 
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how about the rsx lines will they work? because i just ordered them so i hope they fit. I am in the process of installing the ac back into my civic with a K swap. this GA heat is killing me.

 
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I ran 1 Rsx line, but i had to extend it slightly... But it is not manditory that you remove eaither or.. Unless you add a supercharger then thers no room for a PS pump lol.

 
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Like they say.. u can keep eveything.. EP3 or 02+ civic a/c lines will allow u to keep a/c with no custom lines

 
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so xproductionz only the 01 guys get shafted, if you have an 02 plus ill be o.k, i dont need to remove nothing? and sry for being such a newbie, but my car is stok untill now, but whats the electric steering? would someone like to clarify? where would i get it from? and rsx?

 
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lol.. let me explain better... PS and Ac can be kept... if you want to all u gotta do is get custom lines made to keep AC... but... however.. if you dont want to get custom lines made you can use...( i think this is where ur mistaken).. you can use the AC lines from the EP3 or commonly known as the 2002-2005 civic si..

 
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Do you remember which line you had to extend?

 
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wow im liking the way this thread is gonig, getting alot of response. Now lets say i wanan do a k24 bottom end with a k20 head, what is the requirements for that??

 
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This one.. off an rsx...

 
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Ok thanks, the lines that you have comeing out of the fire wall there, which are they? Are they your stock civic ones? Because im replaceing these with RSX ones or SI ones i have them both. Do you think i will have to extend mine? thank you for your help. My lines will be here tomorrow. I will try to install them this weekend.

 
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That one is off of the front clip that we got with my motor... so to be technical that one is off an 02 Honda Intergra Type R DC5... But its the same thing as the rsx. and if you get that one you will have to extend it. although the EP3 is the better route depending on how you want it to look. I wanted mine to look it was an RSX and thats how i did it.. Hid everything on the firewall and behind the radiator.

 
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well that sucks i was hopeing i wouldnt have to extend anything. I ordered everything off a RSX, codensor, compressor, all the lines and the dryer. How much did it cost to have that line extended?

 
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ahh, stop being a bunch of bitches, lol. no a/c or PS is fun fun fun!

 
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U crazy???

 
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the GA heat and humidity is killing me this summer and i can't deal with it no more. I havent ac for over 2 years now. Plus i was thinking about selling my car and who wants to buy a car with no ac.

 
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Yeah well if it wasnt so damb hot in the south you might have a point lol... but anyways lol..

It wasnt to much cause i cot it dont with my engine. i dont remember the exzact amount but it would probably variy anyways depending on where you go to get it done. but i extended it about 4 inches i belive

 
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Ok all my lines and stuff just got here everything looks good a little dirty going to clean everything up tonight. I bought a new o-ring kit and some refrigant oil to lube up the o-rings when i put them in. One question does the condensor fan bolt to the condensor or the radiator?

 
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the EP3 ac lines are too short i tried i had to get them fabricated, freakin' expensive and not worth it.

 
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Back of the radiator. Unless you have a pusher fan you can mount it up in front of the condinsor, or do 2 pulling 1 pushing he he he.. But yeah behind the radiator.

 
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the best way is what i did, EP3 a/c lines they fit good an 0% modification, plus im running electric power steering because of the supercharger, and im running stock EP3 fans

 
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i want eps

 
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me tooo

 
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Ok i would like to think everyone for there help espically TransformedBG. couldnt of done it with yall. I used all RSX lines and they all fit i didnt have to have any of them extended or shorted. I did have to do some bending but not very much. I will say i was a pain in the *** and will never do it again. The air blows ice cold. I just hope i dont have any slow leaks, but so far so good. I bought some dye just in case. Thank again everyone.

 
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Aww aint no thing lol.. But i knew they would fit. guess you didnt need all the pictures after all lol.. But glad to hear you got it to work.. take a few pics let me see what yah did.