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Old Jun 12, 2006
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TSI turbo kits...it

i've read good things things and bad things. the bad mainly being problems with intercooler piping and incorrect instructions.
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Also manifolds being shaved, electronics being cheesy, oil line problems, turbos blowing quickly...
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Damn sounds like a dodgy kit
Why do people keep buying these if they are so bad...
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Old Jun 13, 2006
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there was a whole bunch more text that was supposed to go in this thread, but i dont know what the hell happened to it. oh well. so tsi sucks? all i needed to know...
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It's give and take on their kits. Some people have problems, some people dont. The older kits had HELLA problems, while the newer kits don't have as many problems. Another plus is that the intercooler dosen't require you to cut the crap out of your bumper or core support, and will allow you to keep your foglights.
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do you know anyone that bought a kit recently? i mean, the dezod kit is as quality as you're going to get, but a little pricey for my tatste. $4000 for the kit, plus another grand installation and dynotime, plus gauges and a new clutch is expensive. at the same time though, i radther just spend the extra money to know i was getting good parts and service. right now i'm just researching every aspect of turbocharging d17's so that when i do have the cash i won't misuse it.
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sounds like a plan...i'm hoping for a second hand dezod kit with no shaft play....anyone???


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I have a TSI kit on my car, installed it myself about 1 year ago.
Installation was difficult, but as Smuggler said no major cutting required, if any at all.
Manifold fitment is nothing major, just 10 min filing job.
TSI is using off the shelf geniune Garrett turbos w/internal wastegate.
Electronicas might be no the finest quality, but they are easy to tune and adjust.
With more or less accurate instalation I did not have any major problems with any mechanical components so far.
1 week ago my TSI injector box stopped measuring boost due to faulty sensor ($30 part), but I just ended up buying a used TSI box on these forums - plug and play.
Another minor issue that affect no drivability, but not yet sorted out, is one of the intercoller pipes starts vibrating against something if I speed to 70+mph.

The bottom line is: If you are not after big WHP (200+), TSI is a good non upgratable turbokit for an average enthusiast.
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whats the warranty?
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dude, build your own. its cheaper. when i actually have some cash, ill be able to finish mine for about 2k. thats half of 4 for a brand new kit...and some kits are not even complete...its more money for the fuel system and stuff. the only thing i can tell you is be patient and piece it together slowly. it might take a little longer, but in the end, it will be what YOU need, not what the company thinks you need.
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i have a tsi, i knew the problems with the tsi before i got it... like the manifold needed to be shaved off... not a big deal... didnt get their fuel upgrade... did my own... but what i didnt expect from the turbo kit is to have poor oil inlet design.... so i went and changed it where its not leaking... its goooood now.... love the turbo and the kit is pretty good. it you want more out of ur d17 then tsi is good. but if you want lots of power go with something such as dezod kit... price goes up as well.... i think there is 1year warranty on the turbo and 3 year warranty on the manifold
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Ask boiler bout going custom. Unless you used cheap, used and/or low quality parts there is no way your gonna out to $2K for a turbo kit.
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Originally Posted by dezod
Ask boiler bout going custom. Unless you used cheap, used and/or low quality parts there is no way your gonna out to $2K for a turbo kit.
used SF EL manifold. used typs S injectors, a whole bunch of used stuff yes. better then no boost. the emanage sitting in my garage is new, along with the turbo, BOV, wastegate, and some other stuff. yea it can be done though.
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Piecing together a custom kit is NOT for everyone. Even alot of the people that are piecing it together arn't going to be happy, or they arn't doing it right in the first place. It's not as simple as buying part A and part B and slapping them together. Kit are designed to work well with other parts. I just think it's amusing when people on this site say, "Hey, turbo, cool, I'll buy one and slap it on." Knowledge is power my friends.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
used SF EL manifold. used typs S injectors, a whole bunch of used stuff yes. better then no boost. the emanage sitting in my garage is new, along with the turbo, BOV, wastegate, and some other stuff.
yea it can be done though.

Get the used injectors flow tested and cleaned. Save yourself some headaches. Nothing worse than buying a used injector get the kit installed and bam fuel delivery is all off and you can not figure out why.

The SF manifolds esp the EL ones were utter trash. Tons of cheated cuts and welds. I am surprised they made any power at all.

What about a downpipe, charge piping, oil, intercooler and all?

Manjin don't take it as a stab. Just as friendly FYI.

Smuggler is right. Custom is def not for the novice or everyone.
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My cusotm kit cost about $1800, that was with a used HKS manifold. but then again that was before emanage and RSX-S injectors. Add another $500. so $2300 plus a world of headaches. Currently, have ot pull my pil pan and fix my leak
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i wouldnt buy the TSI kit for the simple fact is it has a t25 thats like a stock saab turbo i think the dezod kit comes with a t3/t4 turbo more power. why would u want to put cheap sh*t on your car doesnt make sense
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Originally Posted by Jdm01Em2
i wouldnt buy the TSI kit for the simple fact is it has a t25 thats like a stock saab turbo i think the dezod kit comes with a t3/t4 turbo more power. why would u want to put cheap sh*t on your car doesnt make sense

ehhh small engine --- small turbo.... t-25 supports up to 15psi.... i dont think you will boost ur d17 more than 8psi.... i like ur signature
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ehhh small engine --- small turbo.... t-25 supports up to 15psi.... i dont think you will boost ur d17 more than 8psi.... i like ur signature
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Originally Posted by Jdm01Em2
i wouldnt buy the TSI kit for the simple fact is it has a t25 thats like a stock saab turbo i think the dezod kit comes with a t3/t4 turbo more power. why would u want to put cheap sh*t on your car doesnt make sense
Ours is a T3/T4 Hybrid. No upgrading needed chances are. Turbo is good for 300-350
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dezod, do you think there will be any group buys for the v3 kit?
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dezod, do you think there will be any group buys for the v3 kit?
PM me. Not sure.
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I had my tsi kit with the t25BB and the Tsi controller box I was pushign 16psi on my automatic that was built usign the TCI auto master overhaul and put down great numbers. The kits is not the greatest but it does wonders for the honda civic. i agree that dezods kit is better in the long run but for those on a tight budget that want a little more it can work if done properly
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
I had my tsi kit with the t25BB and the Tsi controller box I was pushign 16psi on my automatic that was built usign the TCI auto master overhaul and put down great numbers. The kits is not the greatest but it does wonders for the honda civic. i agree that dezods kit is better in the long run but for those on a tight budget that want a little more it can work if done properly
What numbers? I am curious for my own nature.
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
I had my tsi kit with the t25BB and the Tsi controller box I was pushign 16psi on my automatic that was built usign the TCI auto master overhaul and put down great numbers. The kits is not the greatest but it does wonders for the honda civic. i agree that dezods kit is better in the long run but for those on a tight budget that want a little more it can work if done properly

i agree
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Originally Posted by dezod
Get the used injectors flow tested and cleaned. Save yourself some headaches. Nothing worse than buying a used injector get the kit installed and bam fuel delivery is all off and you can not figure out why.

The SF manifolds esp the EL ones were utter trash. Tons of cheated cuts and welds. I am surprised they made any power at all.

What about a downpipe, charge piping, oil, intercooler and all?

Manjin don't take it as a stab. Just as friendly FYI.

Smuggler is right. Custom is def not for the novice or everyone.
um no offense taken. i don't have the injectors yet. i don't have all the other stuff either. im broke right now with no job. but i was saying its cheaper to build your own kit.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
um no offense taken. i don't have the injectors yet. i don't have all the other stuff either. im broke right now with no job. but i was saying its cheaper to build your own kit.
you got all the stuff or most of it... but you have not put it on right?? that means its not working and its not a kit
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dude, your right. im not done peicing it together. the whole point i was trying to make is that its cheaper to piece together your own little kit. so no its not on. no its not "working" and no its not a whole kit yet. but it will be when i get some more money.
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um no offense taken. i don't have the injectors yet. i don't have all the other stuff either. im broke right now with no job. but i was saying its cheaper to build your own kit.
Sorry to hear about the job, but your total is no where near done.
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Ok, someone said that the "t25" was a useless piece of junk. I'm sorry, but you sir, are an idiot. Different turbo sizes are useful for different purposes. The 25 series (including the 8) are GREAT for quick spooling applications, such as autocross and small output motors, where the emphasis is more on response than top end power. moving up the ladder you can end up with the t3 and hybrid series, where there is a good balance of absolute power and response. This is generally reguarded as one of the greatest street turbos for lower output engines, for the mere fact that it will build boost low and give you that still satisfying "knockout" punch. Then you can go out and buy yourself a 70 series (88's arn't true 88s) and drive your Supra on the highway at 1000mph and flip over and blow up then roll over some more. So, to the man who said T25's are cheap. Please
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