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Old Aug 20, 2005
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Help me pick a new suspension

First let me say I am looking for a top quality app that will not give me problems in the long run. I am only looking to be lowered about 2" on a daily driven sedan. I will rarely ever go to the track.

Now, I am trying to decide between:

Hayame Full Coilovers NEW V.3
B&G Full Coilovers S3
Tein SS Coilover
Tein Basic Coilovers

I don't want to spend the money to get options I don't need but I don't want to end up with crap either.
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please search. they are plenty of reviews on all of these suspenion setups.
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yes, i know this and i have. That is how I narrowed my choices. Please don't treat me like a noob. I have been around since 2001 (back when post counts were not kept) and I don't post a lot. Only when I need help with something or think I can help will I post. I mostly just read. All I want to know is which one do you think is a better app for my car is all. In my searching I found all of them are good.
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I'm also "in the market" for new suspension, and have read a million threads. I'm leaning towards Tein SS or Basics. Reasons: Teins seem to have received highest praise over past 2 years for both design and quality. B&G's are top quality and offer a lower drop (which I don't want). But the SS offer maximum adjustablility, and EDFC capability. Just my preference, and way of bumping for more opinions.
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Well what are your needs/wants out of the suspension? Ride quality over performance or vice versa?
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I am hoping to find a nice middle ground. I know nothing is going to ride like stock but I also don't want to crazy the hell out of my girl everytime i hit a little bump. Like i said little to no track use. I guess what I am looking for is a high quality suspension setup that will give me a nice drop (2-3"), a nice "sporty" ride and most importantly will last.
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I'm also "in the market" for new suspension, and have read a million threads. I'm leaning towards Tein SS or Basics. Reasons: Teins seem to have received highest praise over past 2 years for both design and quality. B&G's are top quality and offer a lower drop (which I don't want). But the SS offer maximum adjustablility, and EDFC capability. Just my preference, and way of bumping for more opinions.

I think only the Tein Flex has the EDFC option.
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EDFC is a $400 Gimic... Really, how often do you see your self changing the damper rate on your car?

If you want improved performance with a good ride, I'd recomend Not getting a pre-built coilover, but rather a good Progressive spring with a good damper. It'll be cheeper and give you just as good, if not better performance as any of the "coilovers" you've listed. only down side is that you wont beable to impress your friends by saying you have Tein "Coilovers".
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i have read people who do this have problems with getting the springs and dampers to mesh well.
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i have read people who do this have problems with getting the springs and dampers to mesh well.
Thats because people tend to use springs with OEM dampers.
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so there is no advantage to the setup I listed about and the progressive spring setup you mentioned. What dampers should i use, Koni?
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The only real advantage a "coilover" would have over a spring + shock combo would be in the ability to adjust ride height. If that doenst matter to you then I see little reason on spending the Extra money.

For street use with a progressive spring, Tokico Blues (HP) or Tokico D-Spec if you want to have adjustible dampers. You could do KYB AGX's, but I've seen some shock dynos of them and they have limited adjustibility, and tend to have a pretty stiff bump setting, Tokico's however are known to be on the "softer" side of high performance dampers, so you'd probably get a better ride out of them. Konis are great too, one of the best really (For the $$) but they are harder to install then the other listed dampers.
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I have eibach sportlines with kyb adjustable shocks, ride is smooth and its pretty low, I heard that koni yellows are better but imo i think they are just a lot more expensive. As far as springs go i think eibach makes some of the best springs on the market.
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tein ss
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I don't understand the import worlds obsession with pre built coilovers....
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
I don't understand the import worlds obsession with pre built coilovers....
It's all about bragging right. In reality, once a part is installed, it'll never be messed with again until it breaks.
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i also have a sedan and i wouldn't recommend coilovers. . i mean they could be adjusted and all that but in about 6 months or so you'll start hearing things underneath your car, i only have spring setup and i'm happy with with it, but i guess whatever floats your boat.

NEUSPEED SPORT SPRINGS
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if ur gonna spend that kind of moeny, why don't u get the new megan coilover kit for over cars, it got great reviews...but from your list i would go with tein all the way
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why wouldnt you want coilovers for a sedan, i would think coilovers would be better for a sedan?
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One thing is with coilovers if you start to sag you can adjust. You can't do that with springs.
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I like Tein SS coilovers because they offer a professionally designed, properly matched and well constructed spring/shock/strut set up. And flexibility. "TEIN has developed advanced technology to design the shell case and stroke to bring out the full potential of your vehicle. These features of the TEIN Super Street Damper kit were designed with greater performance to satisfy all your driving demands. This high performance damper can be used for weekend racing and/or daily driving. The discomfort caused by uneven roads or bumps are eliminated on daily street use. For race use, the ride height adjustable system enables you to adjust ride height and 16 levels of damping force. In other words, you can set your vehicle to meet all situations!"

Of course, I'm not going to change ride height every month. I would however like to be able make adjustments to height, have to ability to corner weight, and play around with damper settings until I get it just right.
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are the basics worth buying?
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the only thing the SS has over the Basics is the adjustible damper... so, Do you plan on tweaking the dampers? if not, then the basic will work for you. (most people have no idea what or how they are tweaking the handling with dampers any way.)
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what level are the basics set to then (1-16)? Do you know?
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hardest, softest in the middle or what?
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Not sure, but does it really matter? other then maybe having the ablitiy to alter ride quality, do you really know/understand what else you are tweaking by altering the damper rates?
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