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well i f'ed up something already...

ok my idle on my turbo'ed vic is really bad and regularly stalls, im thinking a bad head gasket but i wanna be sure im right before i go out and buy on, also its already been tuned so it should not lean or rich
any advice is appreciated, also,
1 where can i get one?
2 what can i do to stop this from happening again?
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is it a 7thgen? If so I think there is a DIY on the idle relearn process. Try that before anything else. If you disconnected the battery and didnt do it the car sometimes idles like crapola.
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sorry its a 7th gen, ill check out the diy section for it, but i have disconnected the battery and tried that to see if that would work


*edit* i could not find it in the diy section and i also tried to search for it.

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yeah theres a writeup somewhere on how to do it. Its in my helms manual but its at my shop at the moment. That may be your problem. Make the helms manual your next upgrade dude, once you start modding its the best investment you will make. Maybe someone on here has the book in hand and can tell you how to do it.
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yeah, one of many at least
my list goes like this
1 turbo timer
2 bigger exhaust
3 electronic boost controller
4 maybe bigger radiator
5 oil cooler
6 now i guess a helms manual
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yeah, one of many at least
my list goes like this
1 turbo timer
2 bigger exhaust
3 electronic boost controller
4 maybe bigger radiator
5 oil cooler
6 now i guess a helms manual
I could be a leak on a Air intake gasket or a TB gasket or a vacuum hose leak.
Any of dose can make your idle work funny.

Take a carburator spray cleaner and while your car is running spary aroud the areas that have gaskets and when the motor start to hesitate that's where it leaks.
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k, also when driving normal street speeds and have the rpms around 2800- 3200 and put it to nuetral cause i have to slow down the rpms drops down fast enough to die
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k, also when driving normal street speeds and have the rpms around 2800- 3200 and put it to nuetral cause i have to slow down the rpms drops down fast enough to die
That sound like an air leak.
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well i guess im going to get on it, would just another gasket/hose work?
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It's got it be.
A bad vacuum hose or a bad gasket.
Look all over the place between the head and the intake manifold in and around.
Check every hose.
Spray that stuff all over close to any gasket assebly and hose while the car is at idle.
As soon as you noticed a change on the idleing, tha's where your leak is.

There is a gasket between the TB ans Intake manifold
Another between the IM and the head.
Check dose.
I don't think is a head gasket cause it's not overheating of overflowing the radiator reservoir.
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Originally Posted by fixeruper
sorry its a 7th gen, ill check out the diy section for it, but i have disconnected the battery and tried that to see if that would work


*edit* i could not find it in the diy section and i also tried to search for it.
What do you use for MAP sensor hack?
I had same issues before upgrading to missing link. Now my idle smooth as silk and car runs and shifts very nice, smooth as I said

If you already have missing link, then take it off and clean it up with water and soap, let it fully dry out before putting back in the engine, use soap and water to clean the little round filter. Or if filter is lost or worn out you can just use a bite of spounge.
I hope my suggestion helps you fix your idle

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well guys thanx for the advice, 03-acura-1.7-el i already have a missing link. im going to take it to the shop tomorrow, i think im a c#$t hair from blowing up my engine now though, i went to go get the carburator spray cleaner like suggested and when i got back to my car and started it up it started smoking LOTS of white smoke out of the exhaust, so i guess im going to have to tow it the shop. any idea what that could be. this weekend sucks, i have had nothing but problems this weekend with my car, starting with my fuel pump spray fuel everywhere and fixed that then had my idle messed up and now this...
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Sounds like coolant leaking into combustion chamber and creating steam, so prob blown head gasket. It seems people on this sight like to pretend there is nothing wrong with their HG, even though hey have symptoms of a leaking one, that then becomes even worse of a problem, that could incure permanent damage.
You may want to invest in some arp head studs, so they can install while they have your head off, ask/search about this some more. Speaking of searching, i found that answer for you in less than 2 minutes literally, so, this makes me wonder how you can spen so much loot, with out some research. DO SOME RESEARCH IT WILL SAVE YOU TIME AND MONEY!!!
Also do not want to be a ********, trying to help.

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well i discovered oil leaking out where the turbo is so im think its just a seal on the turbo.

plus the other stuff but im taking it back to the shop tomorrow

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[QUOTE=fixeruper]well i discovered oil leaking out where the turbo is so im think its just a seal on the turbo.

haha been there done that, had the turbo rebuilt, and at the same time it was the headgasket. A easy way to tell to if your having coolant in the cylinders, get the car to normal driving conditions, then quickly turn off the car and remove the spark plugs one by one. On mine i could tell right away i had a blown gasket because only, number one cylinder started steaming out from the spark plug hole.
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Originally Posted by jackburton
Sounds like coolant leaking into combustion chamber and creating steam, so prob blown head gasket. It seems people on this sight like to pretend there is nothing wrong with their HG, even though hey have symptoms of a leaking one, that then becomes even worse of a problem, that could incure permanent damage.
You may want to invest in some arp head studs, so they can install while they have your head off, ask/search about this some more. Speaking of searching, i found that answer for you in less than 2 minutes literally, so, this makes me wonder how you can spen so much loot, with out some research. DO SOME RESEARCH IT WILL SAVE YOU TIME AND MONEY!!!
Also do not want to be a ********, trying to help.
first off back off my case
second i never said it wasnt the head gasket i know what you thread your talking about
third i think my situation is different
fourth it is not coolant leaking that creating the "steam" its burned oil, i know what burned oil smells like, i would think most people would
with that said, im tired, i've had a really ruff day and im going to bed
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well i discovered oil leaking out where the turbo is so im think its just a seal on the turbo.

haha been there done that, had the turbo rebuilt, and at the same time it was the headgasket. A easy way to tell to if your having coolant in the cylinders, get the car to normal driving conditions, then quickly turn off the car and remove the spark plugs one by one. On mine i could tell right away i had a blown gasket because only, number one cylinder started steaming out from the spark plug hole.
good idea on checking that, i just don t want to **** off the neighbors with all the smoke lol
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White smoke is actually steam from coolant boiling, and there are two ways this usually happens cracked head, or blown/leaking HG. Check oil dipstick or oil cap or drain oil to see if coolant is mixed in with oil.
Blue smoke is oil leaking into cylinder.
Black smoke is running rich, so it is just excess fuel burning, usually not a problem unless oil smell like fuel.
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1st- You said that you thought you had blown HG, but you would wait to get one
2nd-you asked where you could get one
3rd-how can i keep this from happening again-upgraded HG and head studs OR lower boost
4th-You said lots of white smoke, and burned oil is blue/grey, it only takes a drop of oil in cylinder to produce the blue smoke.
5th-Oil leaking out of turbo will prob not cause oil in exhaust, but it will cause you to possibly run low and throw a rod bearing. If the seals on your turbo are bad and it is leaking into exhaust flow, then this would cause smoke. This usually happens if turbo is old and wheel is touching housing OR too big of oil line and a turbo cannot take psi of oil like your engine can.
6th-you asked for advice well i gave you some, I have spent a good hour researching for you, as i said i am trying to help you, not discourage you, try looking at honda-tech.com, they have tons of info
lastly....well...i am also tired and going to sleep!
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same problem happend to me and i chek everything and i foudn that my o2 sensor was not plug it ....
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i have none of these problems.....im still N/A! lol

Josh, sorry to hear your car is fvcked up, but it was still fun driving it today. I love the sound of that damn thing. lol. Anyways, get that **** running for tuesday nights hooters meet!
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well i got it back from the shop last night. apparently the fuel pump that is included in the sf kit is a pos and it overworked the injectors causing them to stay open all the time. so the only problem was, i was really really really rich. anyway thanks for your help. (for those that helped)
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You said lots of white smoke.
What about leaking oil lines u get that worked out?
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yeah it looked white to me... but the oil lines? i meant that it looked like oil leaking out by the turbo gasket but it was just burnt gas... yeah it was that much gas being pumped in. right now though im not boosted because since i dont have a fuel pump to give the extra gas my fuel system is stock and they couldnt get it rich enough to be safe. but anyway im going to be installing the injectors soon....
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u have gas leaking AT THE TURBO!!!
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yeah it WAS nasty, but i removed the crapy sf fuel pump and took off the charge pipe to the car and put my intake back on, but just as a temp. fix while i wait for a better fuel system, which is like in two days so now im just using my car as little as possible.
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just had this issue fixed, bad o2 sence bad map sencer, idles fine and does not stall now
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I have some white residue on my downpipe, below the turbo.....Juts tiny bits, few drops, I easily trace it to dripping antifreeze through a bolt connector on the turbo watercooling line...
..Do like Deciuss said check map sensor (ML or black box) and o2 sensor.
As I sd before, my black box map did not work, caused whole load of issues, not its idles beter then stok, quieter also
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