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Old Jul 24, 2005
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buying new tires soon!!!

Okay, i read the stickies, and still had some questions, i may have missed something. what do these numbers mean 195/60/15, i know the last one is rims size, not sure about the rest.
I have an 04' ex sedan, and want to get tires a little higher quality than that of the stock potenzas, any recomendations???
Also i have read a thread about someone putting 195/65/15 on their stock rims, what are the effects of the different sizes, or what ever those numbers mean?
God i sound dumb, bear with me

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195 is the tire width in MM
60 is a percentage...the sidewall height is 60% of the width
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the 195 is the width
the 65 is something with the height (so smaller the number the lower profile it is)
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Thanks alot!!!
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what do you want? long life tires or stickiness?
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More sticky than long life, but not too short lived!!!LOL
I know about the light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long type deals with tires, just am totally new to this.
Definitely more sticky than the stock potenzas, and they need to be good in the rain.
Any recomendations are appreciated.
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falken azenzas are really good for stickie ness

maybe get some z rated all-seasons
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Originally Posted by fixeruper
maybe get some z rated all-seasons

For the last time (I've posted on this on many ocations) the Speed rateing of a tire (The Z you refer too) has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW STICKY THE TIRE IS! all it tells you is the speed in which it is safe to run the tire at, with out it destroying it selfe due to the heat and deformation that happens at those speeds.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
For the last time (I've posted on this on many ocations) the Speed rateing of a tire (The Z you refer too) has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW STICKY THE TIRE IS! all it tells you is the speed in which it is safe to run the tire at, with out it destroying it selfe due to the heat and deformation that happens at those speeds.

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Thank you...

Didnt mean to get pissy... its just a little tireing/aggrivating to correct and explane the same things over and over and over and over and over...... ect ect ect... Nothing against you personally. (its monday, I'm at work, and I've only had 1 cup of Coffee).
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falken azenzas, eh, will look into it.
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^ one downside to the Azenis RT-615... it doesnt deal with rain all that well. (hitting puddles at speed = hydroplane). Great tire when its dry or just slick out, but watch out for those puddles.
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Also, i wanted people who had experiance with different brands etc, cause i have looked, but have no experiance with getting new tires. I had to get new tires on my moms accord that i used to drive, and i just told them to put on what ever. They asked me what i wanted, and whether i wanted a performance tires, and figured they were trying to rip me off.
Also would it be wiser to order them offline, and then take them to a place to get installed or buy them at place that installs them, again bear with me.
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www.tirerack.com and check out the reviews. but dont rely on those reviews when you buy your upcomming set of tires.

i had exp. with bridgestone potenza re950 (stock ones u have are potenza re92), its grippy enough for my daily driving habits with my spirited driving. great in rain as well. never tried in snow... but i left a review on tirerack.com.

check out the tire calculator.. by going wider and lower profile, it can affect your speedometer in the long term. i think a good alternative choice of 195/60/15 would be 205/55/15 ?
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would that effect my odometer as well???
Also would lower profile look weird cause they make the wheel smaller???
Will search on it.
So you do order online and then take them to an installer, was not sure if you get better deals if you get them through installer???
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Didnt mean to get pissy... its just a little tireing/aggrivating to correct and explane the same things over and over and over and over and over...... ect ect ect... Nothing against you personally. (its monday, I'm at work, and I've only had 1 cup of Coffee).

Oh I didn't take it personally.....I get the same crap day in and day out.
(I manage a tire/auto shop)
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
For the last time (I've posted on this on many ocations) the Speed rateing of a tire (The Z you refer too) has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW STICKY THE TIRE IS! all it tells you is the speed in which it is safe to run the tire at, with out it destroying it selfe due to the heat and deformation that happens at those speeds.
no **** sherlock! he asked for suggestions, yeah maybe a z rating is a little high for a civic, next time when u bash, dont just create crap i never said a z rated tire was sticky,

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No, but you did Ask long life tires or stickiness....

There are high mileage tires out there that have decent treadwear ratings, so they handle well and hold the road. The BFGoodrich Gforce Sport handles well, and has a fair treadwear rating for a performance tire.

ZZyx is trying to make a point that a lot of the same stuff gets asked over and over and over. I've been here since January, and hear the same stuff repeatedly.
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Originally Posted by fixeruper
falken azenzas are really good for stickie ness

maybe get some z rated all-seasons
jack wanted some suggestions, i had the azenzas and i liked them alot so i suggested them, i also drive fast so i play it safe with z rated tires. i never said anything about z rated tires being sticky
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what i asked was if he wanted sticky or long life
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Originally Posted by fixeruper
what i asked was if he wanted sticky or long life
As you would say...No S**y Sherlock......I read the post...
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Originally Posted by nitroal1973
No, but you did Ask long life tires or stickiness....
so why bring that up then?
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forget it, ur just a waste of my time
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Originally Posted by fixeruper
forget it, ur just a waste of my time
I don't think you've even read everything...you posted the same thing I had posted. Myself and Zzyx were asked opinions..

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C'mon guys!!!!
Damn, lol, you guys need a vacation!!!
Anyways, can you get better deals online or from an installer/autoshop, i will do more research of course on my own, just wanted some input, maybe put me the right direction.
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i know at costco, if you buy the all 4 tires form them, they install for free and come with a warranty of some sort? not sure what kind of warranty.

depending on which tires, im sure you can save up on bucks by purchasing online from a legit site, and have a shop mount/balnace them. when you go to a shop that sells tires, their more likely to sell it to you for retail price whereas most online sites are about bucks cheaper than retail. so i say snoop around www.1010tires.com www.tirerack.com www.vulcantire.com
http://discounttire.com/dtcs/home.do;jsessionid=Cl6YgyQT8S2ffCcRT9kbZGr1nF2mjvH LK2LZ2mH1NPLxGRvyymFK!-596156672!-864620497

www.whalentire.com and other legit sites THEN go to a shop and compare prices. im sure some tire shops will compare prices with other shops, but prob not online websites.


goodluck shopping.
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Thanks, will do.
I think i have learned enough and am pointed in the right direction!!
I think i will go with a wider tire and lower profile.
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BFgoodridge, traction T/A

bridgestone RE950

or....if u got $$, goodyear assurance, tripletread....

etc..
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
^ one downside to the Azenis RT-615... it doesnt deal with rain all that well. (hitting puddles at speed = hydroplane). Great tire when its dry or just slick out, but watch out for those puddles.
eh? I thought the rt615's were supposed to be better with the rain? ... (than the 215's)
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