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ok im SURE u guyz seen this b4 on ebay and i know for a fact that we have discussed this "SPEED CHIP" thing here @ 7th gen in the past years. its supposed to give u a 20hp boost by fooling ur ECU or something like that.. well the reason i bring this back up is because every ****ing time im in ebay looking for part for my car, there always like 10 - 20 listings for this thing...now, im going to ask

has anyone bough this for their car?
and if u did
does it work like they say it does?
because according to the guyz feedback people are happy with this thing
and hes been selling it for a couple of years....

i dont have plans to buy it because i dont c my car as a horsepower machine anyway.. but it brakes my head to ask myself "Does it really work?" because hes not only selling it to our hondas..he has every make and model vehicle that has fuel injection or something like that...
well IDK but i hope u can answer my questions thx....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33597

THEIR EXPLANATION
This simple, yet effective modification will allow you to boost the power output of your vehicle's engine, without sacrificing reliability or comfort. It consists of a small electronic device (Timing Advance Resistor) that will be inserted between your cars IAT SENSOR. This is also known as a 'piggy back' device as it is external to the main processing unit (the ECU). You will feel the gain instantly, no fooling around or expensive tuning necessary. This unit will work with all vehicles equipped with electronic fuel injection. 99% of cars manufactures after 1990 are equipped with electronic fuel injection. Here is how it works:

You have probably heard of performance EPROM and JET chips. There chips consist of a stock computer program that has been altered to inject more fuel into the engine under acceleration. Timing curves are commonly also adjusted consequently. These chips can be found to be quite effective, but also pricey as you not only need the chip, but also a socketing kit. You then need to do some soldering on your computer board which can damage it and cause it to malfunction. On the other hand, this 'piggy back' electronic device will alter the fuel and timing curves in a very similar way as the EPROM chip would, but without even opening the ECU. How can it do that? By fooling your computer and letting it think that you are sucking air at a different temperature. Your computer will respond with increased power!

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By tricking the computer, we are able to make the reading of the computer shift to the right in the table, which will make it think it is under heavier load and increase the power. You have the proof right there! You can either buy an eprom chip, as explained further up or even get a bigger system that will control your engine, or you can simply keep that hard earned money and install this little device. You have nothing to lose!

QUICK FACTS:

THIS IS A RESISTOR

THIS WILL NOT HURT YOUR CAR IN ANY WAY

ALL YOU DO IS INSTALL IT IN YOUR IAT SENSOR!

LASTLY DO NOT BID UNLESS YOU HAVE READ EVERYTHING

FAQs

What is an ECU?

An ECU is a computer that manages your engine and keeps it running. It received data from the different sensors on the engine and reacts consequently, adjusting the level of fuel injected in the engine as well as the timing advance.

What is a 'piggy back' device?

A piggy back device is a device meant to externally alter one or more signals sent to the ECU. This is a very commong thing to do but also very expensive. Most piggy back devices cost a few hundred dollars.

Will this devide fit on my vehicle?

If your vehicle is equipped with electronic fuel injection, it will. 99% of cars manufactured after in or after 1990 are equipped with a fuel injection. It will however not work on turbocharged vehicles.

Will my car accelerate faster with this device?

Yes! This is the whole point! It has been dyno proven that this device can add up to 20 HP to your vehicle!

Will this device damage my car?

Absolutely not. Since the altered signal will always stay within the manufacturer's specifications, there is no way for your engine to get damaged in any way.

How hard is it to install this device?

Installation is very easy! Basic instructions are included with every product as well as all necessary hardware besides the tape.

Do I need any special skills or tools?

No special skills are required. All you need is a small piece of electrical tape and your self.

If I run into trouble, can I get help?

Sure! Drop us a line and we will be more than happy to help!

 
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another thread i found everyone has an answer to it but they never bough it..at least no one said they did
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...ght=speed+chip

if its not worth ur breath have the tread locked..
i just wanted to know to kill the curiosity...
someone to say " yeah i got it and it did/didnt work"

 
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isnt this the same idea???
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=154959

 
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hm....im on your confusion too..

all people here said that they're junk and just lock the thread..

however, have we really discusses about it?

 
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I don't know about this particular one, but the idea of the resistor on the IAT wire is that it will give the ECU a false reading. ECU will think the air is colder and more dense so it will add more fuel.

 
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why am i getting pm'd the thread is here post what u have to say here....so we can discuss this

pmd by
1siksivik

its common cents. 20 bucks for 20 hp? ummm no hp cost money. ill leave it at that.

my answer
yes i understand that but that doesnt answer my question....

 
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i dont think anything....plus i dont even want it
now u say its garbage It will ruin your car. Do not throw something on your car that randomly changes the timing and tells the ecu wrong information about air temperature. If anything, you will lose power
but they say
Will my car accelerate faster with this device?
Yes! This is the whole point! It has been dyno proven that this device can add up to 20 HP to your vehicle!

Will this device damage my car?

Absolutely not. Since the altered signal will always stay within the manufacturer's specifications, there is no way for your engine to get damaged in any way.

now i can email this guy and ask him how can he prove to us that this works
and if its guaranteed cuz if so he has to put it in writing like everything else..dont u think?

 
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this resistor advances the timing about 1 degree, if ur tuned, dont do it, but it does do a little something, not much though
Basically it tricks the iat into thinking the incoming air is cooler than it really is so the ecu compensates

 
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thats what its says but did you buy it and noticed the diffrence?
thats what im looking for

 
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What is the point of the ecu thinking the air is cool when it really isn't?? All that does is cause the ecu to dump more fuel in, which wastes gas and causes more carbon to build up in the engine.

If you want to advance timing, get a cam gear. There is no reason to advance timing unless you have a milled head and higher octane gas to match.

Dyno proven?? I would LOVE to see a before and after dyno...but there isn't one. Too bad. This is the most retarded product ever. It sounds like a joke the way he advertises it. Notice how it says UP TO 20hp. That means even if it makes 1hp his claim is satisfied.

There is potential for great damage to the engine. This device DOES NOT keep within manufacturer specs, if it did then that means the product doesn't do anything.

 
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very true and i agree with you
but like him we have no proof that says this thing will damage anything. so like i said i can email him to gurantee this product and its function aaaaaaaand put it in writing so if anyone buys this product and engine fails...he has some document to back him up..(insurance) cuz im telling u i go to ebay and like i said there is like 10 -30 sometimes a lot more listings of this crap..and its always on my face its ****ing anoying...

 
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I emailed him this

do you guarantee the SPEED CHIP of its function?
and do you guarantee it does not cause any harm to any component in the engine, ecu etc?
if so can you put the gurantee in writing and the proof of the dyno result on ur website. also send the gurantee in writing when i purchase this product sign by you or your company..
please reply
im really interested in this product...
thx

 
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Here is the best part. Yes it has been proven that the resistor will advance timing. However, this increase will trigger the knock retard by the ecu, which will immediately negate any effect of advanced timing. So you get nothing. The timing is really the only thing that would increase hp. You need REAL cold air going to the engine to make power. Just because the ecu thinks the air is cold, does not mean the engine makes more power.

read the feedback man

Does not give any HP at all. Shows that temp always cold. Will overheat engine!!

It reduced horsepower and made my engine light come on

CHEAP IS THE WORD FOR IT, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!


i feel like I should have been better informed of what i was really purchasing

found the same thing at auto part store for 5 cents. Dont waste your money

not worth the money

Chip received in envelope with stamp...now my Check Engine light is on!!!!


no good


product was garbage,,,gues you get what you paid for buyers beware

thought it was a speed chip not a little metal peice thats a fire hazard

was very dissappointed! messed up my car

Hey thanks for the part you sent me. Although it made my truck act up.


I csn't believe all it is is a common resistor. Should have been described bett

 
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yes there is negative feedback but there is also positive..and if someones car is messed up by this why not a law suit..why is he still in ebay?

 
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very interesting and informative thread...keep it coming!

i love to learn and remember all these debate....so i can kick those ricer's a$$ when they're so full about these resistor ship blablabla...

 
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because nobody is gonna sue over $13. They just throw it in the trash and move on with life.

 
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he....

i tried to warn my friend...when he wanna install it on his 92 e36.....of coarse, in this case....ebay chip, yo!

long story, i tried to tell him how that's not gonna work...etcetc..

he ended up buying it, install it....and nothing happened. really.

then, i don't know what happened to that thing....thrown away?

what a f*cked up way to do trashy business....

 
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here is the thing if it damages my engine repair is not gon cost $13... so lets say because of this guys product i had to spend $1000 to get my car back to normal..u c what im getting at? my *** will be after someone if thats so...dont u think?

 
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^they probably designed it on the first place such that you can't notice how its hurting ur car....

so, in that case.........they calculate the probabilty that ur gonna throw it away......but of coarse, ur not gonna sue "us" back on ebay cos' it's just $13...

what do you think about my theory? if that's true...then it's a perfectly setup ebay scam..........directed for ricer....lol

 
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so by you saying that u are confirming that it doesnt work..and i know it dont work but now im going to wait for the reply to the email i sent him. if he dont guarantee it and do what i asked he should stop SPAMMING THAT **** ON EBAY

 
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alright...ive never had this on my car and not planning onto. but it really doesnt do nothing. how do i know this? because i know a guy that put this one and he said " oh yea dude i gained around 20 hp just by this little thing. " i wish i could have slapped him for that. but we raced and i still wooped his ***. he went to the 1/4 track and his time was still the same. might have been worse. trust me....these people that sell these on ebay is just out to take your money away.
btw, everything gearbox had said is true. and if you know your car isnt a horepower car then why bother worrying?

 
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thats is a very good theory IMO
but on one of the replys someone said that their truck started to act up...
and yes it is directed towards ricers....no doubt in my mind

 
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My friend bought it for his camaro (not much of a car guy). He put it in and noticed a little difference. So i put his in my old 96 Isuzu Rodeo right before I traded it in just to check it out. I drove with it on one full tank of gas to see what affect it had. I did notice more low end power and acceleration when getting on the highway. But the problem was, i also noticed about 6 mpg less. I went from 16mpg to 10mpg on one tank. I took it off after that because i liked the extra mpg and i traded in the car. My friend then stuck his on his moms Neon (stupid) and there was no noticable difference but her mpg dropped about 4mpg. I think it may have more impact on a larger engine, my rodeo was the 3.2 V6 as compared to the Neons 4, but i have no idea. I would never spend any money to buy one, nor would i put it on a car i cared about because i feel it could harm something and is a stupid risk (after you put it in, the instructions tell you to wrap it in electrical tape and just let it hang there lol), but i did notice some acceleration gains in a older SUV. Still a waste, i spent more on gas than that thing is worth.

 
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i worry about it becuase like u say "these people that sell these on ebay is just out to take your money away."

its flase advertising and it should be illegal dont u think?

 
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and now he confirms that it works.....so we back on the same spot until i receive a reply to the email i sent..when i do ill post it here

 
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see...........

the problem is............

my friend's e36 is a piece of crap....180K on it.....with leaking gasket..

i don't even know why in the heck we want to put that thing.....*sigh*

of coarse, in his case, nothing happened.

 
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lmao
o so thats why he didnt notice anything IF infact it did anything...

 
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IMO..

even if you THINK that it's working........it's probably only on ur mind.........LMAO..

 
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yes i agree with you on that but like someone said before, i dought nobody is gona go all out over 13 bucks is it?

 
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i could not agree more hahahahahahahahahaha