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I went to midas of all places to simply fix my tailpipe. It's harness had busted from a weld and was now hitting against my progress sway bar.

The guy said we could replace the 1 and a quarter inch pipe to 2 inches; custom bend it and all. I thought it was a good idea and went for it.

When i go to pick it up, my worst nightmare had come true. The exhaust is way way deeper, louder, and now SOUNDS LIKE A CAN OF BEES. I thought maybe it was the new pipe. I took it back to Midas after taking it on the freeway for a bit. The guy said that raspyness won't go away, and that i'm the first person to not like the sound. I was a little shocked at that.

So, i got my old resonator back but i don't know what to do. I am almost embarrassed to drive my car because of the sound of it.

Should i put my old pipe back on? If they do they'd have to use new pipe with the old resonator costing another 250

What should i do?!!

 
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I'd say get the old resy put back on.

 
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and a tip.... DON'T GO TO MIDAS!

 
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what are you talking about??! "trust the midas touch!" hahaha

 
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The guy said that even with the resonator reinstalled it will still sound like a can o' bees.

 
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Thats bs... As long as you have the right size pipe, and the old resy, it'll be fine.

 
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no he is just telling you that....
how the hell could putting it back the way it was not change it?

 
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What i think he meant was that by leaving the 2inch pipe and reinstalling the resonator it will still sound raspy.

 
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you should have just bought a cat-back exhaust to begin with. and this prob. wouldn't have happened. is the stock muffler on there still? it doesn't make any sense for it to sound like bees with the stock muffler on there. just get a Tsudo cat-back on ebay and you'll be happy. deep but doesn't sound like bees in a can.

 
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I have a magna flow exhaust, hp racing header, highflo cat, and K and N intake.

 
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the magna flow may be your problem, I heard they dont sound the best on 4's... dont know, just what I heard...

 
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dude the no cat is your problem get a real high flow and it will go away..
most peeps here think that no cat is a high flow cat but it is not.
a true high flow cat still has something inside of the pipe..

 
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The magna flow sounded great until i messed with the pipe.

 
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Since you eliminated your cat with the racing header you need that extra resonater in there to keep the bees away. Have them put it back in. the change in pipe diameter will not change the sound much if at all.

 
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I don't understand. Since i'm an AZ registered car the hiflo cat is exactly what you describe; You can see right through it. The true cat would inhibit flow, but would inhibiting flow reduce the can o bees sound?

How many people here have changed the back piping to 2inches? And if so, how bloody loud is it?

Oh- so it is the resonator that is the issue.)

 
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I have an 02 Coupe with an HP racing header w/high flow cat, AEM CAI and a magnaflow street series muffler w/ custom 2.25" piping. I had that set up for about 2 weeks and just like you got tired of the "can" sound. I just got home from putting on a straight thru resonator (kind of like our cat) and could not be happier. The car sound deep and responsive. I't only really loud after about 4500 RPM. Mind you it still has sound, but certainly more "performance" sounding. I don't think it made a difference in performance although only a dyno could tell that. If I was you I would put on a resonator..you'll be a lot happier.
mIhO

 
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What type of resonator did you get? And why did you get 2.25? Are you going to get boosted?

 
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I don't know the brand...its generic, with a 2.25 inlet and exit. It's a straight thru resonator very much like our cat. I'm using 2.25 because I plan to upgrade the internals later on, and so far through the research I've done..that seems to be the ideal size for our cars if you have some mild upgrades as we do.

mIhO

 
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I tell you what i want. I want a muffler that will perform well with the mods listed in my prof. header, highflo cat but that is not loud. I really don't like it loud at all. What do you suggest?

 
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i have had a magnaflow "world sport" style muffler with 2" custom piping w/ out a resy and i love the sound of my exhaust. its got a nice deep rumble, not too loud but deep even at higher rpm.

 
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there are companies that make true highflow cat converters... low restriction<sp , doesnt effect the CEL and they dont polute the air..(as much)
if you just have a stright through pipe then it isnt a cat at all.. its a downtube..

 
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yes fake hi fow cats add raspyness. also taking out stock resonators will give raspyness too. my advice is make sure there are some resonators on your mid pipe and it should eliminate some of the ghey sound.

 
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In order to lower the db's for two inch piping from the cat to a magna flow muffler without the stock resonator, and including a hp race header and hollowed out cat, which brand would be best? Or would any do the job?

 
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nevermind. i guess apexi or tanabe.

 
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just get a greddy evo 2 exhaust and and megan high flow cat and you'll be happy with the sound and performance. I'm running 2.5" pipe for my turbo. but before turbo, it sounded good and really loud after the rpms got up there. it was fun though....hehe the echoing off the buildings was funny.

 
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After researching, I decided to get a whole new cat back. I bought the RS*R ex mag. I narrowed it down to two systems; the apexi n1 and the rs*r.

A few dealers said that Greddy was the largest manufacturer of auto parts out of Japan, and that they produce their cat backs and products at a high pace in order to meet the demands (and in order to capitalize on profits) of the auto and mod industry. Hence, their larger productions, in theory, could prove that they have a deficeincy while producing, and that a smaller company such as RS*R would be more precise. Futhermore, RS*R, because of their smaller status have focused more on research and development for their product since they have few.

This seems as if it could be argued either way. Allow me to elucidate. Since Greddy is the largest manufacturer in Japan one would think that their budget for R&D would be higher than that of smaller companies; however, does the size of a company necessarily mean that its budget for R&D would be more or less than another company? The answer is that each company allocates monies for R&D based on different variables; thus, it is possible for a smaller company such as RS*R to have a larger budget, and to have spent more time developing their exhaust kits, despite their smaller size because of their focus on one or more products as opposed to Greddy's wide range of products. The more products a company has, the more R&D is necessary to support those products.

Although, i could be way off. Actually, now that i think about it I'm not sure that it was Greddy that was the largest manufacturer. It could have been Apexi.

Nevermind.