What's wrong now?! Good handling schocks, crappy softening.
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What's wrong now?! Good handling schocks, crappy softening. Hey,
Here's my suspension, Tokico HP Shocks and Neuspeed Sport Springs. The handling on this combo is incredible. I can take some sweet, sweet turns with it.
But it's still not a smooth ride like some other people's cars I know who are lowered, or not lowered. Like if I hit a weird bump in the road, by car still feels like it got hit by a bomb. I like that my suspension is all stiff now, but I don't like how the new shocks don't absord that much impact on the roads.
Can something like the bushings be changed to fix this, anything else?
Here's my suspension, Tokico HP Shocks and Neuspeed Sport Springs. The handling on this combo is incredible. I can take some sweet, sweet turns with it.
But it's still not a smooth ride like some other people's cars I know who are lowered, or not lowered. Like if I hit a weird bump in the road, by car still feels like it got hit by a bomb. I like that my suspension is all stiff now, but I don't like how the new shocks don't absord that much impact on the roads.
Can something like the bushings be changed to fix this, anything else?
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Rep Power: 0 There are so many things to consider here. For example, what wheel/tire size are you running? Is the aspect ratio as low as your friends who are lowered? How low are they compared to your car? Same kind of car? Same kind of springs? The point is, unless you are comparing apples to apples it is tough to say there is something wrong with your ride. Any lowering springs are going to give you a more firm ride than stock.
I have the exact same setup as you and I can tell you I notice a big difference between my 17s and my stock wheels. I also have noticed that it depends a lot on what kind of bumps you are hitting. Some are worse than others - depends on how sharp they are.
I have the exact same setup as you and I can tell you I notice a big difference between my 17s and my stock wheels. I also have noticed that it depends a lot on what kind of bumps you are hitting. Some are worse than others - depends on how sharp they are.
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Originally Posted by AzNFoRLiFe
Its hard to have good handling and a soft ride at the same time. You have to compromise one for the other.
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^those BMW's also have a good 1000LBS on us.... which accounts for much of the "Comfortable ride" part. Basic physics... F=MA (Force = Mass X acceleration) or alternatly A = F/M (Acceleration = Force / Mass).
Heres how this works in to the ride quality part...
A car that weighs more will inherently ride better simply because that chassis will not react or be affected as much by bumps then a Lighter car would. Even if both cars handle simmilarly. example, Take two cars, one weighs 500 LBS the other 1500 (1000LBS difference) Both cars hit a bump that creates an upward froce of 100N. The acceleration upward created by this bump would be approximatly how "rough" the bump would feel. On the 500 LB car, the acceleration would be (A = 100/500) A=.2 (Not sure if it would be Meters/second or what not but thats not important) on the 1500LB car A=100/1500 = .066666.... Signifigantly Less then the 500 LB car... See? The heavier car would react less to the bump, giving a smoother ride.
Heres how this works in to the ride quality part...
A car that weighs more will inherently ride better simply because that chassis will not react or be affected as much by bumps then a Lighter car would. Even if both cars handle simmilarly. example, Take two cars, one weighs 500 LBS the other 1500 (1000LBS difference) Both cars hit a bump that creates an upward froce of 100N. The acceleration upward created by this bump would be approximatly how "rough" the bump would feel. On the 500 LB car, the acceleration would be (A = 100/500) A=.2 (Not sure if it would be Meters/second or what not but thats not important) on the 1500LB car A=100/1500 = .066666.... Signifigantly Less then the 500 LB car... See? The heavier car would react less to the bump, giving a smoother ride.
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Rep Power: 334 Id definitely agree with zzyzx.
ACura TL with Tein SS would "ride" (feel less bumpy over the same bumps), then a 7thgen with Tein SS.
I know this to be true from personal experience.
ACura TL with Tein SS would "ride" (feel less bumpy over the same bumps), then a 7thgen with Tein SS.
I know this to be true from personal experience.
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Rep Power: 304 This is probably a difficult question to answer. If you put performance shocks on the 7th gen does it react better to bumps than the stock shocks or does it feel like the car is gonna crack in half everytime you hit one. I'm going to be riding on stock 185 65 15 firestones. Right now for winter I have 185 70 14s and the ride is much stiffer than it is with my oem rims and tires, it always feels like the car is gonna crack in two when I hit a bump with these tires.
I know it's not important for sample purposes but, you need to make correction in your units, you're dividing N/lbs = (kg*m/s2)/lbs... convert the pounds to kg so it will give you acceleration in m/s2, or convert N to Lbm*ft/s2 to get acceleration in ft/s2.
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Originally Posted by anibal
I know it's not important for sample purposes but, you need to make correction in your units, you're dividing N/lbs = (kg*m/s2)/lbs... convert the pounds to kg so it will give you acceleration in m/s2, or convert N to Lbm*ft/s2 to get acceleration in ft/s2.
Thanks! I loved physics in school... and I could comprehend concepts and such... just most of the math was beyond me. (Not to mention its been 7 years since my last math class...)
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Rep Power: 0 tokicos are very stiff. They are awesome though, just avoid all bumps when possible, and work your suspension out some from dodging sh** in the road all the time. It gets better, a little stiffer than when you first put em on, but you will learn to drive more comfortably
Originally Posted by Zzyzx
^those BMW's also have a good 1000LBS on us.... which accounts for much of the "Comfortable ride" part. Basic physics... F=MA (Force = Mass X acceleration) or alternatly A = F/M (Acceleration = Force / Mass).
Heres how this works in to the ride quality part...
A car that weighs more will inherently ride better simply because that chassis will not react or be affected as much by bumps then a Lighter car would. Even if both cars handle simmilarly. example, Take two cars, one weighs 500 LBS the other 1500 (1000LBS difference) Both cars hit a bump that creates an upward froce of 100N. The acceleration upward created by this bump would be approximatly how "rough" the bump would feel. On the 500 LB car, the acceleration would be (A = 100/500) A=.2 (Not sure if it would be Meters/second or what not but thats not important) on the 1500LB car A=100/1500 = .066666.... Signifigantly Less then the 500 LB car... See? The heavier car would react less to the bump, giving a smoother ride.
Heres how this works in to the ride quality part...
A car that weighs more will inherently ride better simply because that chassis will not react or be affected as much by bumps then a Lighter car would. Even if both cars handle simmilarly. example, Take two cars, one weighs 500 LBS the other 1500 (1000LBS difference) Both cars hit a bump that creates an upward froce of 100N. The acceleration upward created by this bump would be approximatly how "rough" the bump would feel. On the 500 LB car, the acceleration would be (A = 100/500) A=.2 (Not sure if it would be Meters/second or what not but thats not important) on the 1500LB car A=100/1500 = .066666.... Signifigantly Less then the 500 LB car... See? The heavier car would react less to the bump, giving a smoother ride.
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