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Apparently Im a dumb a**!!!!!

 
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Your saying your car's making 300 ft/lbs of tq?

 
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no offense, but i had trouble reading all of that.

Are u saying that you spiked to 13psi.......if so, then your wastegate is prolly sticking.

I can't believe ur clutch is slipping.......i've been boosted on stock clutch for 11 months at 9psi daily and i have hit 13psi..

btw........there is no way you got even close to 300 ft/lb tq.

 
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^^LOL 2 of them in a row about 300 ft/lbs lol

 
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For real, it should be more around 100 at 13psi, I would guess. The clutch has 93,000 miles on it, plus 4 people learning to drive stick on it. It is gone, believe me. It drives fine at lower rpms, but high, it slipped like hell. I am getting a new clutch monday. It shouldnt even be allowed to hit over 6 or 9 lbs, but its hella not working, so Ill check and see if its sticking. I cant really move it with my hand, though, so how would I check to see if its sticking, do I have to take it apart?? I did not see the dyno, but they told me right around 300, which made no freakin sense. They wont let people watch the dynos, something about insurance. my friend and I were trying pretty hard to get back there.

 
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300 doesnt sound right at all..........

 
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I think he's bullshattin.

 
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5lbs or 13 lbs, you didnt hit 300 tq period end of story have a nice day

 
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Hmmm, I don't think he is "lying" necessarily, I just think he dosen't know any better

 
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how much sense does that make, none

 
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300 ft/lbs of tq sucks duh! That didn't make sense to you? tq sucks...

 
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I understand that should not be possible. I was typng super fast, had like 2 minutes til we were locking up and I had no key today.

But what I said. I was NOT allowed to watch them tune, I have no idea what it said myself. They said it is making crazy power, and I need a clutch that handles at least 300 tq. They said it was way up there, but as I said before, I was not allowed to watch. Something with their insurance doesnt allow it. They have no windows, and they drive down the street. I couldnt find their place. Is the wastegate open to far? is also what I meant. They told me it should have bet set correctly already from TSI. Is that true? Or do I have to adjust it. There is about an inch or inch and a half of thread showing I believe. I do not believe 13 lbs would make 300 ft/lbs tq. I believe it could get up to 90-120. Depending on who tunes and whats done. Sorry my thread sucked a**. I wanted to say the clutch got fried instantly (after 93,000 miles on it). They couldnt tune it, and said it was making crazy torque and is gonna be quick as f***. Those were their exact words.

Peace


edit - The first post is change now. I had like 5 minutes at work, and I posted the same amount in another thread as well. Very crazy sh**, made no sense, sorry biyatches!

 
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This was on a chassis dyno? If it was, I would find a different shop that doesn't have this lame "Insurance" rule...

Good luck

 
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don't get mad dude, that is just what they told you.

Honestly, like havok stated.....find a different shop.

 
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that's weird that they drive your car to a different location down the street, and you have no idea where.....thats shady to me...I'd want to be the guy sitting in the driver seat pushing the gas pedal.

 
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go some place else that way u know what is going on, i get to stand next to mine or even in the passenger seat, just am not allowed to drive in while its being tested on the rollers, thats where the insurance deal should kick in. they are giving you the run around on the whole down the street thing

 
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shady shady shady

 
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They are a very good shop, and have a very good reputation. They have built some fast hondas. The one they have sitting out front is probably running 10s or lower. Was running 10.7_ (this was before they swapped for H22) probably much lower numbers now. The shop I went into was where they just fix cars, thats their main shop. Also, the other place screwed me worse, by saying they dont do Dyno tuning today. bull, I had an appt, and was triple checked for today. they are bastards and wont ever get a damn dollar off of me. These people didnt charge me, and they got it running nice. I cant complain with that. We were hella pushing to go with for the dyno, I thought it was somewhere in the shop I was at. Ill find it next time. They can also get me in quick, I called today and they set it up today. They really arent shady people, they're very nice and helpful compared to the other people who said, we cant touch it.

I also found german car dyno tuning, and indy 200 tuners. They were backed up like 2 mo's on the indy cars they said. lol thats not good at all. Indy 200 is here this weekend. They said they could get me in, in about 6 weeks, no thanks

 
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if i cant see my car, they dont work on it period end of story. if i go to the dealer for some odd reason anymore, i stand next to it or at least on the other side of the brick wall. now the turbo install was a different story but none the less i could still walk into the shop and walk out there and see it. this driving ur car to another shop to dyno and u cant watch, horse ****, they could seriously **** ur **** up, hey maybe they did make 300tq u couldnt see how they did it, get ready for something to break

 
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umm, my car runs 300 + ft lbs of torque @ 13psi.... but I have a 3L turbo engine - approaching twice your displacement - I don't think you hit 300 ft lbs to the wheels, man... sorry but no.

 
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WTF?, for reals. I changed my thread. I explained by deal, and I explained exactly what I meant. For the 3RD!!!!! time, I was not able to watch them dyno. They told me the numbers were right up there, I dont believe that happens. Not a 1.7L D17. anybody else wanna talk crap, fine, but you look like the dumb*ss now, since I explained myself correctly. Nor did I ever say in the first thread I watched them, I said thats what they said, and I was not allowed to watch. so stop talkin crap.


My clutch is really slipping bad this morning. I just dropped my kids off to school, and it was slipping around 3500 rpms. It just flew up to like 5000 but my car went nowhere. Hopefully monday Ill order my clutch, and get it on as soon as I get it. Than hopefully be tuned for the meet/cruise on the 3rd. I dont know if Ill have time though

 
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Dont worry man i believe you everyone makes mistakes, make sure you get that clutch asap.

 
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Were gonna need to meet up in about a month or so. Have you installed your kit yet?

 
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Do you hit around 13 everytime at WOT? Do you drive at partial throttle, or just when you adjust it to 13, it goes that high? I mean do you always drive at partial throttle, or do you have a boost controller that works, or lowers boost possibly?

I was reading the profec-b instructions, and it has 2 purposes. To raise the boost level, and to prevent overboost. So hopefully it will prevent my overboost. I need to hook it up tonight or tomorrow. I had to redo all my wiring yesterday, and hooked up my boost gauge the other day finally. So at least I can monitor more easy whats its boosting and stay around 5-7 psi when racing (at partial throttle , at least half throttle is all I need to whoop as*)

 
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Okay.

Problem # 1:
You installed a turbo on an NA car without a boost gauge... and just went to town? - not smart, man. What would happen if you started boosting freely?

You could ruin your turbo, your engine, or both!

Problem # 2:
a BOOST GAUGE is used to monitor boost, not to control it. If you are boosting too high, then you would adjust your BOOST CONTROLLER, not how far you put your foot down while accelerating

However - you said you have no boost controller... which means you are running 'natural boost' or in otherwords, the wastegate's spring setting.

13 lbs sounds a BIT high. If I am correct about it being too high for wastegate spring setting, and If you are hitting 13lbs without a controller, your spring setting is too high, or your wastegate is not working properly.

Solutions:

Install boost gauge (you already did that)

Get that profec installed, but make sure it is done correctly.

If you ARE hitting the 13 lbs you speak of... then I need more information to help you.

Here's why:

things are sounding pretty funky with your setup. Without a boost controller, you should not be worried about overboosting. Without a boost controller, you will boost the least pressure at all time.
- things just are not making sense.

I need to know what your wastegate actuation is. Maybe someone on these forums knows?

 
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You didnt read my post very well. Never did I say that a boost gauge controls boost.

I never went to town without having an ACCURATE reading, or running lean. I was running rich, and the TSI unit has a digital boost reading that you can monitor as your driving. My friend was monitoring that, while I was driving, he would let me know when I hit a certain psi. And if you re-read what I typed above, it says I can monitor MORE EASILY!, not monitor it finally.

I know you are supposed to have WOT hit whatever lb of boost you set it at. I was curious if other people were having problems like I was. I am not a dumbass, dude. Dont just join these forums and talk sh**.

got it, good. Read and understand before you post


Now,

I think my wastegate is not opening properly, could be stuck closed, Im not sure. It may not be open enough. It should have been set for 9lbs from TSI. I will try opening it up some more later on, and see if it works. And I will install the profec-b myself. I do not need somebody to do it for me. I will do it properly, as I am not a dumba**.

I would need to open it, so it lets more pressure escape, correct? If I closed it, it would create more boost?

See, I question things Im not quite sure of, so dont talk sh**!

 
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Don't worry, I'm not talking ****. I'm trying to be helpful here. From what you said, you were trying to stay at a certain boost level by feathering the accelerator

Anyways ... you asked about your wastegate:

"I would need to open it, so it lets more pressure escape, correct?"
Yes, open wastegate = exhaust diverted from turbo = less boost.
However YOU do not need to worry about opening it yourself, It should open at a specific pressure. Without a boost controller, it MUST open when you're intake manifold pressure breaches the wastegate spring setting.

"If I closed it, it would create more boost?"
Yes. Again, you do not close it. It STAYS closed until it actuates @ a specific pressure.

W/o a boost controller, you should be running 9lbs. If you had your car tuned, you should have a boost controller installed... or did they modify your wastegate ? I don't know how else you would tune your car without one, unless you planned on running ONLY wastegate settings.


But I really need to ask you something, man.

You had your car 'half-tuned' supposedly w.o a boost controller, and were not allowed to watch it be tuned. You are unsure of your boost, and your wastegate. In order to play it safe, you cannot go WOT?

Are those facts true?

 
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The boost controller I had, is part of TSIs unit. It doesnt work, the wastegate has to be adjusted I believe. They started tuning and quit because the clutch wasnt holding up at 9psi. That is what they hit at 4000 rpms they said. Not sure about 5000+rpms. I have a boost gauge, so I know what boost Im hitting, plus there is one on TSIs unit, so I could monitor what it was hitting, and it saves the highest boost level of the last run, until you reset it. I have no boost controller (hooked up YET), I have kids, so time is not something I have lots of. Yes, to play it safe I am not going WOT, cuz it will hit OVER 9 psi of boost. I was going to install my profec b a while ago, and the first shop that WAS gonna tune my shop, said I cant lower boost, only raise from what the wastegate is set at. So that delayed me when I had time. Now I am thinking it may work, so I want to try it out, but probably not until I get back from Mexico. Possibly tonight though, we'll see. I have school til 10.

Sorry for being rude, I was in a bad mood for some reason. My bad

 
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Hey bro, I figured they raised the wastegate spring setting! Not cool! The lowest boost you can run @ wot is your wastegate setting, and if its already too high... then why the heck did they change it! Get that puppy back down to 9 psi - especially since you are gunna throw on a boost controller! It won't make a difference unless you lower the wastegate to something useable.

I would say, stay away from that crazy shop, man!!! Bad news!!

I run 15-16 lbs, and my stock wastegates are 7psi - I wonder why the TSI kit has it set so high in the first place? Oy!

 
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The shop didnt touch it, I told them, if it needs adjusting, I would like it set to around 7psi. They said ok, but the clutch started slipping so quick, that they couldnt go very far, just add some fuel, got it running safe, and gave it back. They didnt even charge, and they have signs posted everywhere, no matter what 80 dollars a half hour, if they lift it up and bring it down, they will charge. It was free for me. I like those people, and they were very helpful. The first shop was dumba**es. They even cancelled my tune, right when I was bringing it down. I called and they said, no tuning today. After that I will never call them again.

So Ill try opening it up more. It should supposedly be open all the way, is what I was told, so Ill see if its set right after school. I am not hitting more than 6 psi right now, and usually am at 0-1 when dirving normal. I have been driving slower than normal though. I am babying my sh**, I dont want it to blow up. Constantly monitoring it, and making sure everything is looking right.

Does anybody know if you go through way more coolant on aboosted motor. I dont have a leak, but it seems to be going down a little every day. Only took about a month, and Im gonna be adding more today already. Its at a safe level right now. Im guessing cuz it expands more, and shoots out the resorvoir. It did that since I added way too much, but it was all good. Its at a good level now