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Old Feb 19, 2005
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lotus elise vs celica....

I ran into one this morning and I just couldnt resist.

we ran twice.

from a stop - off the line he put at least 3 cars on me and I pulled 2 back by 100 when he shut it down.

then he slowed down and we went from a 40 mph roll. I put about 3 cars on him by 130 when I shut it down.

he was pretty suprised.

was the first time I've run into one on the street that was willing to race. only other one I ran into was at the last auto X event and he beat me by 10 seconds lol
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Hey 00celica, you havent been posting much lately. Hows the car running for you? Did you ever get those ITB's installed?
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we finished the itb's but they were impractical because the ecu could not hanbdle the adjustments we needed. eventually when a proper ecu is out that can handle speed density we'll do that again.

cars running fine. won 3rd place at the last auto x event so my drivings getting better too lol

right now I'm workin on some custom cams and stuff for a small company so they have been stealing most of my time.
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God I love those cars....


Same Engine as the Celica GTS... Just right wheel drive


(Then theres that 600 LB weight difference...)
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i have the same engine as a celica gt-s as well and i love lift
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what car is it in?

zzyzx I'll have to post the vid I took a couple weeks ago of an elise that took 1st and 3rd place (2 different drivers) it was awesome.
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Sweet runs. I'd like to see the look on his face when his 40k car got walked by a car that costs half as much. They are bad *** though. Trying to make my own poor mans Elise. 200lbs more to take off, a little more power, shorter gears and rwd conversion Ok I got a long way to go.
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God I love those cars....


Same Engine as the Celica GTS... Just right wheel drive


(Then theres that 600 LB weight difference...)
same engine, but some decent differences in the celica engine in the lotus vs the actual celica engine. including about a 100+ pound weight reduction.

plus another 10 hp. lol


00celicagts6spd, what do you run at the track now? the new lotus is about a 12.4 1/4 mile car.
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wanna race me on a 1/4??? while with my bike.

when/where was the autoX event?

Originally Posted by 00celicagts6spd
I ran into one this morning and I just couldnt resist.

we ran twice.

from a stop - off the line he put at least 3 cars on me and I pulled 2 back by 100 when he shut it down.

then he slowed down and we went from a 40 mph roll. I put about 3 cars on him by 130 when I shut it down.

he was pretty suprised.

was the first time I've run into one on the street that was willing to race. only other one I ran into was at the last auto X event and he beat me by 10 seconds lol
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Nice runs! I thought Lotus' ran in the 11's 1/4? I have never seen one, but would definately like to. Nice job keep up with him.
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low 13's with a good driver. sounds fun, i still haven't seen one on the road
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low 13's with a good driver?

i thought the new lotus was in the 12's easily???

I know the previous lotus imported and sold for the US with the integra type R engine could run a 12.3 with it's 195hp, due to the fact that it was so light weight. did the new lotus get fat or something?
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new elise weighs 1975lbs, old elise???? Sport Compact Mag tested one and ran 13.3 in the 1/4. Dynoed at 166whp. So maybe a high 12 is possible and low 12 would be a little harder to believe.
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Old Feb 21, 2005
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it was at california speedway on the 19th.

they run low 13's - high 12's depending on driver. and thats stock.

they weigh 1950 lbs, have the same 2zz but different tuning and ecu.
"lift" kicks on at 6,000 rpms compared to a stock celica which sits at 6200 rpms.
they low throttle limiter of 8,000 rpms and a full throttle limiter at 8600 compared to a celicas 8350 rev limiter.

so basically he's reving as high as I am. only difference is I have about a peak 25 hp advantage and 20 wtq advantage
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How much does your celica weigh with all the mods?
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nice runs
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right now I weigh 2450 lbs with out me in it. I have only an intake and new ecu. for exhaust I remove the stock muffler.

my new custom exhaust should be done in a week. really lookin forward to seeing how well it dynos. we gained a lot of power from the prototype.
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I tried to post the elise video but it didnt work so I'll try again.
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Originally Posted by 00celicagts6spd
right now I weigh 2450 lbs with out me in it. I have only an intake and new ecu. for exhaust I remove the stock muffler.

my new custom exhaust should be done in a week. really lookin forward to seeing how well it dynos. we gained a lot of power from the prototype.

Cool thats your weight inclding all the fluids and all? Or is that the weight your calculating using the factory curb weight minus the weight reduction you've done?
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how much power you are puttin to the wheels, ever dyno? Your about the same weight as me with driver(curb weight minus estimated weight reduction). Just trying to get an idea of much hp I'm gonna need to run near your times.
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I actually take my car to a weigh station by my house whenever I change something. I'm back to full interior cause it's a lil better for auto X. my car has a severe oversteer so I keep the wieght on for the balance when I'm not drag racing.

race weight is about 2250 lbs

and I have 172 whp right now.
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Originally Posted by 00celicagts6spd
my car has a severe oversteer
For autocross that Typically means you should get back on the gas sooner in the corner... :P but It also may mean that you'r doing too much trail braking... but it all depends on when & where its oversteering. (corner entry, corner exit, mid turn ect...)
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mid turn. I will be the first to admit I have A LOT to learn lol right now I'm just goin to get a lil seat time in and cause it's hella fun.

soon as I get my 1/4 times where I want then i'll start workin on a better setup for autox.
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