S2000 vs SRT4 vs turbo 7th gen civic
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S2000 vs SRT4 vs turbo 7th gen civic
I was drivin along earlier this week and had a neon SRT4 that had been playin around for about a mile. We kept missing lights or hitting traffic, so I wasn't biting at the moment. We managed to come upon a light with a silver 7th gen sitting in the far right lane. I was in the left, and the neon was in the middle.
Waiting for the light, I gave a little rev to see if the guy was gonna go. He didn't respond so I was like... hmm. The light turned, and no tire squeal. All 3 of us kinda went off the light no one really flooring it. Kind of anticipating, the neon punched it at 15mph. I hit it at the same time and off we went. The neon took a little bit of a lead, and then I heard a PSHHHH. But not from the neon.... it was from the 7th gen! lol.
To about 60mph I pulled on the neon and the 7th gen took the lead. Into 3rd, and we kept at it. I continued to pull on the neon, and the 7th gen was still pulling on me. lol.
By about 90, I was about a car ahead of the neon, and the 7th gen had 2 cars on me but was losing ground. Shutting down at 105, I was pulling on the neon, and the 7th gen had lost a car and was my front bumper was very close to his back bumper.
Good race. 4 cylyinder honda turbo > 4 cylinder honda N/A > turbo charged walmart shopping cart.
So... I'm hoping the 7th gen is a member here?
Waiting for the light, I gave a little rev to see if the guy was gonna go. He didn't respond so I was like... hmm. The light turned, and no tire squeal. All 3 of us kinda went off the light no one really flooring it. Kind of anticipating, the neon punched it at 15mph. I hit it at the same time and off we went. The neon took a little bit of a lead, and then I heard a PSHHHH. But not from the neon.... it was from the 7th gen! lol.
To about 60mph I pulled on the neon and the 7th gen took the lead. Into 3rd, and we kept at it. I continued to pull on the neon, and the 7th gen was still pulling on me. lol.
By about 90, I was about a car ahead of the neon, and the 7th gen had 2 cars on me but was losing ground. Shutting down at 105, I was pulling on the neon, and the 7th gen had lost a car and was my front bumper was very close to his back bumper.
Good race. 4 cylyinder honda turbo > 4 cylinder honda N/A > turbo charged walmart shopping cart.
So... I'm hoping the 7th gen is a member here?
good story 
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Originally Posted by AznChinksta
so u pulled on a srt4? arent u stock?
I have another story I will post that was from a while back. but i dont think i'd ever posted it here. it's about 2 SRT4's, a 350Z, and my S2k.
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Rep Power: 609 wow, i still can't believe that a boosted d17 would pull on a s2000 like that .......maybe now i won't be afraid when i see s2000's 
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Rep Power: 401 no i know the standard 8psi isn't enough. i've raced a 7th gen with 8psi from a 20mph roll and pulled fairly easily. it may give them more hp and a similar hp/weight ratio, but the S2000's gearing is still far more agressive, which hurts the civic.
well i am not saying that every 7thgen at 8psi will pull, but I think that a well tuned = driver will own a S2000. I think that most will agree the type of turbo and the way you tune the car has ALOT to do with it. There are many variables to why you pulled easy on the first civic, but I really don't feel that this one had to be boosting more than 8psi. That is just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by bgoetz
well i am not saying that every 7thgen at 8psi will pull, but I think that a well tuned = driver will own a S2000. I think that most will agree the type of turbo and the way you tune the car has ALOT to do with it. There are many variables to why you pulled easy on the first civic, but I really don't feel that this one had to be boosting more than 8psi. That is just my opinion.
i agree that well tuned has alot to do with it.......but still, at 8psi.......the s2000 would still pull with a half assed driver.
sorry S2k, I wish to retract the word own what I should have said is a drivers race. Owned sounds like the civic WILL KILL the S2000, but that is not true I think either one could win, they both would run about the same times. Given the fact that you made it sound as if the civic got a late start it most-likley was more than 8psi, infact 10-12 would be more reasonable.
Originally Posted by civic01vtec
i agree that well tuned has alot to do with it.......but still, at 8psi.......the s2000 would still pull with a half assed driver.
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Rep Power: 401 I know what you're saying, but what I'm telling you is I've raced an 8psi 7th gen. It was owned by a friend of mine I went to HS with. No matter what speed we raced at I'd pull. (granted we never started at anything less than 20mph) To call it a driver's race is simply wrong. if both cars start at optimal gear at say 40mph, and then just mash the gas, the S2k is gonna pull all day. there's a difference between a driver's race and finding someone who has to be a complete retard in the S2k to lose in that situation. lol
Though the 8psi gives the car a similar hp/weight ratio, it's not enough to make up for the fact that the S2k has a very aggressive 6 gear close ratio transmission. I mean our final drive alone is a whopping 4.756. that's a fair amount more agressive than the 4.4 found on the ex. not to mention the fact that it's more agressive on each transmission gear as well.
Though the 8psi gives the car a similar hp/weight ratio, it's not enough to make up for the fact that the S2k has a very aggressive 6 gear close ratio transmission. I mean our final drive alone is a whopping 4.756. that's a fair amount more agressive than the 4.4 found on the ex. not to mention the fact that it's more agressive on each transmission gear as well.
well I am not doubting your knowlege and I know that you are not doubting mine. The fact is that we could go back and forth all night. In my opinion I say that it could be 8psi and pull like that. The only way to end this is for the person that owned you to come forth and let us know. Don't get me wrong I am not going to swallow my gum if the car is running 20psi and i know the same goes for you if it is at 8.
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Rep Power: 401 FWIW i would be shocked as hell if it was only running 8psi and pulled like that. especially considering he started slightly after me and the neon started.
even your own post about starting late and its affect on a race would support my theory that the civic certainly ran more than 8psi.
8psi isn't putting D17 7th gens into 100+ mph traps. which is generally a good indicator of what the car does from a roll.
even your own post about starting late and its affect on a race would support my theory that the civic certainly ran more than 8psi.
8psi isn't putting D17 7th gens into 100+ mph traps. which is generally a good indicator of what the car does from a roll.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
FWIW i would be shocked as hell if it was only running 8psi and pulled like that. especially considering he started slightly after me and the neon started.
even your own post about starting late and its affect on a race would support my theory that the civic certainly ran more than 8psi.
8psi isn't putting D17 7th gens into 100+ mph traps. which is generally a good indicator of what the car does from a roll.
even your own post about starting late and its affect on a race would support my theory that the civic certainly ran more than 8psi.
8psi isn't putting D17 7th gens into 100+ mph traps. which is generally a good indicator of what the car does from a roll.
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Rep Power: 401 at the same hand, chances are if someone around here is boosting their civic, they aren't just gonna boost it and stop there. they will continue the project with more internals, etc. so it all kinda makes sense to me. meh. i need a beer. lol
