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Old Jan 17, 2005
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What shocks should i get?

I have Eibach Sportline springs and was wondering on what shocks i should get? Income tax will be arriving soon and I am starting to look at which pair i should get... I need all 4 of course... Um, i dont rally any at all... Just a daily driver... I know the Koni's need to be modified some but i really dont wanna do that... I think the Eibach Sportlines finally settle at about 1.6 inches all around...

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Originally Posted by injencivic
I have Eibach Sportline springs and was wondering on what shocks i should get? Income tax will be arriving soon and I am starting to look at which pair i should get... I need all 4 of course... Um, i dont rally any at all... Just a daily driver... I know the Koni's need to be modified some but i really dont wanna do that... I think the Eibach Sportlines finally settle at about 1.6 inches all around...

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With your amount of drop, you can get away with using the Tokico Blues. If you want a better ride and adjustable damping, go with the Koni Yellows.
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I knew koni's would be mentioned but i have to do some modifying to make them fit my 01 coupe still correct? Or have they fixed that problem?

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Yeah, they are inserts I believe. You use the upper part of the stock shock on the fronts. The rears are direct replacement. I have tokico HPs (blues) with about a 2" drop. Fronts have a 1/2 finger gap, the rears none, and my ride is stiff, much nicer than stock. Bumpy roads can suck since they are pretty damn stiff, but smooth roads are sooooo nice, especially freeways, rich parts of town.
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Originally Posted by injencivic
I knew koni's would be mentioned but i have to do some modifying to make them fit my 01 coupe still correct? Or have they fixed that problem?

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Yes, they are an insert and I don't think they are planning to change this any time soon. What you will do is cut your shock, empty the guts and use the bottom portion to mount the shock insert into. Its not too bad. Also, consider the Omni-Power full coilover setup which is coming out soon. PM me if you have any further questions (it is hard for us to keep up with every post).
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Injen it is not a PROBLEM that they are inserts. It is just easier to manufacture them that way.

Have you read this? http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=171892

Do you want adjustable, non-adjustable? I think Tokico's would be fine.
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Tokico blue is too stiff, and konis are a pain to install. I want some shocks too Maybe d-spec but haven't heard much. With roads around here, my stocks are gonna blow real soon.
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just because d specs are adjustable doesn't mean they are going to be any softer. you can try KYB GR-2s.
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haven't heard much about kyb either but aren't they super expensive?
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Konis arent that hard to do. You just drill a hole on the bottom and cut the top off. It took me only about 15 minutes extra each side using a hack saw. Well worth it IMHO. I have Sportlines also, and theyre an awesome combo. At the softest setting, Konis are just a tiny bit firmer then stock. From there you can tune your suspension firmness to your liking.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
haven't heard much about kyb either but aren't they super expensive?
check out tirerack.com for what i have found to be the best price on KYB, AGX or GR-2. Your gr2 will be a smoother ride, but your agx will be adjustable to your tastes. maybe you want to smooth the ride out for cruzin with your lady on friday night? maybe you want to stiffen up the ride for saturday night? not a problem with AGX, just a twist of the top of the shock. I bought mine locally for a whole lot more than tirerack, dam. about $440.00 for a set of four.



i have no complaints about my agx. they lifted the car a bit cause i got the squishy stock springs, so if you got sport springs you may see up to a 1/4 inch lift just because they are gas charged.
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Originally Posted by injencivic
I have Eibach Sportline springs and was wondering on what shocks i should get? Income tax will be arriving soon and I am starting to look at which pair i should get... I need all 4 of course... Um, i dont rally any at all... Just a daily driver... I know the Koni's need to be modified some but i really dont wanna do that... I think the Eibach Sportlines finally settle at about 1.6 inches all around...

Thanks,
Injen

tokico blues hands down. best and affordable OEM replacements. cheaper than koni yellows and other KYB's. not performance shocks but your just daily driving. on top of that, tokico recommends a 1.5-1.7" drop for better results. since your an 2001? you wouldnt have to modify anything, just replacements
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Old Jan 18, 2005
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So if I want a smooth ride I should get....? If the adjustables are gonna be stiff too, what else is there. So the agx is a better ride over kyb and tokico?
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the tokicos are good. I paid 275 flat or less I forgot. They were really cheap though. They are good shocks if your into stiffness. Stiffness is good, but I'd rather have adjustables so I can make it softer sometimes. Handling is awesome. Go with adjustables if you have the money. The D-spec one is nice but its on my friends subaru store car so the shocks would definately be 300% better because its one bad *****.
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Originally Posted by robbclark1
Injen it is not a PROBLEM that they are inserts. It is just easier to manufacture them that way.

Have you read this? http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=171892

Do you want adjustable, non-adjustable? I think Tokico's would be fine.

Ya rob i read that post, but i was still kinda lost... As far as the adjustable or non... I am not sure... I just want a smooth ride basically that can handle those spring rate drops... I think me and gearbox are looking for basically the same thing... lol

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If you don't plan on racing, then you don't need to spend the extra money on adjustables. However, you have to realize that non-adjustables aren't made to go too low (less than 1.75").
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I was wondering to with shocks are good I have neuspeed race springs but dont know which shocks to get.
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I'm leaning towards the agx now, but no money so I'll wait it out anyway. I don't think stock will blow that fast.
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are their any non-adjustable shocks/struts that can be used to be dropped 2"+ ? i know theirs many ppl with slammed/dumped rides that just want a clean drop with quality ride at same time
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i would go tokicos or koni yellows
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i would go tokicos or koni yellows

^^ both have been around for a long time and are tried and true. I don't think you could ever go wrong with those.

Lots of good suggestions in this thread though.
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Originally Posted by robbclark1
If you don't plan on racing, then you don't need to spend the extra money on adjustables. However, you have to realize that non-adjustables aren't made to go too low (less than 1.75").

okay, well like i said... my springs settled at about 1.6 all around

So, where does that leave me at? Also, is it hard to adjust the adjustable ones? is it similar to a coilover system? I mean if i get the adjustable, i dont wanna have to get an alignment everytime i adjust them... or i could just adjust them to one certain setting and be done with it.



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Originally Posted by injencivic
Ya rob i read that post, but i was still kinda lost... As far as the adjustable or non... I am not sure... I just want a smooth ride basically that can handle those spring rate drops... I think me and gearbox are looking for basically the same thing... lol

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Hey man, give me a call. Sounds like you need to talk to someone.

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I love my tokicos. And as for the comment on them being non performance, OEM replacements. That is not true. If so, why are they called Tokico HPs? (HP=High Performance). They are stiff, but not too bad. If you live where the roads are total crap, and not kept up, I would consider something softer. Where I live, the roads are totally smooth, even through all the intersections. About 10 minutes away, the roads turn into potholes, bumpe, pothols, crap, crap, and crap. I dont really like driving onthose roads, since my car feels like it will crack in half or something. These things are stiff, but so awesome if you drive a lot of nice roads. It just means I have to bring dates to nicer places on the nice side of town. Big pimpin.
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Originally Posted by injencivic
okay, well like i said... my springs settled at about 1.6 all around

So, where does that leave me at? Also, is it hard to adjust the adjustable ones? is it similar to a coilover system? I mean if i get the adjustable, i dont wanna have to get an alignment everytime i adjust them... or i could just adjust them to one certain setting and be done with it.



Thanks for all your help...

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Dude, you adjust the dampening level not the height. All it does is determine how much the shock will compress. All you do is turn a little **** and presto. You adjust the dampening to change over/understeer. Stiffer rear and softer front = oversteer.
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One more benefit to the KYB-AGX. They are guaranteed for life. If they blow, which is going to take some doing, they will be replaced at no charge. I cashed in on that once when I had the KYB gas-adjust on my truck. It was so nice to get them replaced, then a couple years later i sold the truck--and it had new shocks. <<good selling point.

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Originally Posted by robbclark1
Dude, you adjust the dampening level not the height. All it does is determine how much the shock will compress. All you do is turn a little **** and presto. You adjust the dampening to change over/understeer. Stiffer rear and softer front = oversteer.

ahhh okay!!!

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so it's looking like kyb agx. These can go softer than the tokico blue?
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Originally Posted by gearbox
so it's looking like kyb agx. These can go softer than the tokico blue?
anyone got reviews on those (kyb agx)? 'cause seems like everyone that has spring/shock setup uses either tokico or koni and not much anything else. is there a reason why not many is getting the other brands?
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One of my friends has them on a sunfire. Says they ride good and adjustability is nice to have.
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